Foreverfamily
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whats everyone using to combat PM now that actinovate isnt sold in cali
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ACTINOVATE FUNGICIDE (Grey mold, Root Rot, Damping off, Powdery Mildew )
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Stank J.P.
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Great question. I really don't wanna use eagle20. Organic pm preventative anyone?
Essential oils, neem, calciums, silica, and environmental control.
I dont get it OD anymore, even in the PNW but indoors i can still get it to express if I am lazy/neglectful with my environment.
With a small enough garden, it can be erradicated. With a big enough garden, no treatment/prevention will work. So numbers vs available man labor is another factor to think about. My problems in the garden, all of them, always stem from my being unable to devote the attention and recources i need to towards my garden. At that point i either reduce the size of my garden or reduce the amount of time i spend away from my garden; whichever Life lets me do at that time.
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Lyfespan
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why would you think this wasnt being sold here in cali anymore? monsanto even has a special label for cali same actives just different labels
http://www.monsanto.com/sitecollectiondocuments/bioag/united-states/labels/actinovateag_biofungi_18oz_case_calif_4_13114.pdf
http://www.monsanto.com/sitecollectiondocuments/bioag/united-states/labels/actinovateag_biofungi_510g_case_usa_5_13098.pdf
DONAJTHEIII
Member
sm-90 mixed with neem and essential oils always seems to do the trick for me when caught early but the most critical part after treatment is to make sure you have a PROPER GROWING ENVIRONMENT AND CLEAN CUTS.
Or theres no point in a spray if you keep reinfecting cuts
maybe someone can chime in about caps foliar pack does that combat pm ??
Or theres no point in a spray if you keep reinfecting cuts
maybe someone can chime in about caps foliar pack does that combat pm ??
BubbaBear
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Caps foliar pack failed to prevent or combat my PM as well as Actinovate but I had some of that hardcore PM that you get from Call clone shops that's also resistant to Eagle 20. Two clean solutions I found that can be used in flower are Green Cure at half strength after the initial application alternated with ozonated water.
balsamfirgreen
Member
The question was asked about oxidate a while back, but I didn't see if anyone responded..
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-8539-biosafe-disease-control-32-oz-rts.aspx
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-6907-oxidate-20-25-gal.aspx
I am also wondering if anyone has had experience with MycoStop (a different strain of streptomyces... just called "Strain k61" whereas actinovate is streptomyces lydreus WYEC 108. would one think these two strains would counteract? would they work well together, or alternate the two for more diversity and thus more protection? I recall Mycostop being mentioned in the large plants thread several times... anyone?
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-8539-biosafe-disease-control-32-oz-rts.aspx
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-6907-oxidate-20-25-gal.aspx
I am also wondering if anyone has had experience with MycoStop (a different strain of streptomyces... just called "Strain k61" whereas actinovate is streptomyces lydreus WYEC 108. would one think these two strains would counteract? would they work well together, or alternate the two for more diversity and thus more protection? I recall Mycostop being mentioned in the large plants thread several times... anyone?
mineral oil, ortho use to make it under the name volck oil
its old school stuff.
cheap, very low toxicity that works on PM, rusts and other mildews.
AND
it kills Adelgids, leafhoppers, scale, spider mites, thrips, scale insects, aphids, bud moths, leaf roller, red bug, codling moth, blister mites, galls, whitefly, mealy bugs and other insects
AND
it's an ovacide
3tbs-gal
I always have a bottle of it
mineral oil, ortho use to make it under the name volck oil
its old school stuff.
cheap, very low toxicity that works on PM, rusts and other mildews.
AND
it kills Adelgids, leafhoppers, scale, spider mites, thrips, scale insects, aphids, bud moths, leaf roller, red bug, codling moth, blister mites, galls, whitefly, mealy bugs and other insects
AND
it's an ovacide
3tbs-gal
I always have a bottle of it
So you are just spraying your plants with mineral oil and it helps with both PM and mites? Sometimes it seems like the easiest and cheapest route might be the best. If it is just mineral oil, I can get some at just about any feed store that caters to folks with horses and cattle. I can get a gallon for about $20, so it should last a heck of a long time. Thanks for the tip.
ExoticsRus
Active member
Well every year I spray as a prevention : ACTINOVATE AG instead of the stuff everyone else is using cause not only is it way more expensive for what it is but I found a 500 SQFT ACTINOVATE pack in my basement . I called Monsanto and wanted to see If I could use the whole package on just 2-4 100 gal pots & they said it's my own opinion and it's not going to hurt anything since it's just beneficial bacteria pretty much .
So Well I top dressed the pack on 4 of the main infected corner that had rust infection. then sprayed whole 40x40 garden with ACTINOVATE AG and silica as a wetting. Point of replying on this thread was ACTINOVATE AG has been a wonderful preventive towards PM and budget ( i got only less than 5 percentage loss! & 0% losses from PM cause of ACTINOVATE AG and ogbiowar)
So Well I top dressed the pack on 4 of the main infected corner that had rust infection. then sprayed whole 40x40 garden with ACTINOVATE AG and silica as a wetting. Point of replying on this thread was ACTINOVATE AG has been a wonderful preventive towards PM and budget ( i got only less than 5 percentage loss! & 0% losses from PM cause of ACTINOVATE AG and ogbiowar)
I don't have pm tough..
