Needle in the apical meristem instead of FIMing?

Only Ornamental · Feb 20, 2014

I don't want to 'waist' a seedling right now and that's why I simply ask if someone already tried it.

I know that in other plants 'disturbances' like non-lethal injuries with a needle of the apical meristem often lead to abnormal reorganisation of it and seldom to perfect healing. Hence, multiple new apical meristems arise from within the tortured one and subsequently extensive branching results.
I was now wondering if a needle stabbed in the apical meristem of a cannabis plant would cause multiple branching too.
Judging by why FIM is called FIM I guess it might be easier to just stab it a bit than to surgically remove it... unless you want precisely 4 new branches.

Besides, could burning the tip out (maybe with a blazing needle or conical pin) replace the scalpel as this results in about the same funnel-shaped ending without all the tricky snipping?

St3ve · Feb 22, 2014

sounds pretty advanced for most of us. Seems logical.. but only one way to find out

stoned-trout · Feb 22, 2014

no clue, but I might give it a try with a few seedlings I got going....

Only Ornamental · Feb 22, 2014

St3ve said:
sounds pretty advanced for most of us. Seems logical.. but only one way to find out

Using needles only sounds like an advanced technique to most men :laughing:

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I have no spare plants, that's why I count either on someone else's experience or a fish on weed (thanks for trying BTW)

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stoned-trout · Feb 22, 2014

I got a few I can play with while trying to replace my stolen moms......last batch too late this batch just popped.....

St3ve · Feb 22, 2014

Only Ornamental said:
Using needles only sounds like an advanced technique to most men .
I have no spare plants, that's why I count either on someone else's experience or a fish on weed (thanks for trying BTW) .

Its not using the needle my friend, its the application. Precision destruction.. and you are asking the same people who also called the tech "FIM" if that doesn't shed some light. LMAO

and anyway, I doubt you would kill or even hurt a plant by trying it

Only Ornamental · Feb 22, 2014

St3ve said:
Its not using the needle my friend, its the application. Precision destruction.. and you are asking the same people who also called the tech "FIM" if that doesn't shed some light. LMAO

and anyway, I doubt you would kill or even hurt a plant by trying it

The sewing thing was a joke

. My point isn't 'precision destruction' like FIMing but more of a half-hearted Freddy Krueger approach inflicting wounds and sowing chaos but with hopefully the same result.
Also, with 'killing/hurting' I meant the apical meristem and not the whole plant.

Reevage · Mar 27, 2014

I'd just try it man. It's not going to grunt your plans. At most it will stunt the growth a little, but on the other hand if it works you have a steady way to create 4 new coals.

Only Ornamental · Mar 27, 2014

I'll try the day I happen to have spare plants. I'm certainly not going to try this on varieties I have no experience with

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But you could do me a favour and sacrifice a plant of yours for me

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I'm Flounder · Apr 5, 2014

You are over thinking basic plant responses to stress. Answer to your question, no.

Only Ornamental · Apr 5, 2014

I'm not talking about stress responses but 'wrong' healing after an injury

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Did you try it and failed?

lost in a sea · Apr 5, 2014

I'm pretty certain it won't work with cannabis.. Do you mean pinch the tip and then stab the meristem ?

Once up to size a bit i doubt it would hurt to try.. no way i'm voodooing my girls though

Only Ornamental · Apr 5, 2014

No, no pinching, just stabbing... exactly like a spastic with Parkinson's on crystal meth would treat a voodoo doll

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al70 · Apr 5, 2014

I hate needles.

trichrider · Apr 5, 2014

it's bad enough we practice a focused form of eugenics but to torture them too?

this is interesting enough to (cough cough) sacrifice one virgin beauty.

i have just FIM'd but when they recover growth i'll stab one for posterity.

Only Ornamental · Apr 5, 2014

Thanks Trichrider for your unscrupulousness! Maybe it helps thinking about acupuncture

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I'm already impatiently looking forward for an update...

trichrider · Apr 20, 2014

this was a disaster.
I perforated the apical meristem with a needle.
three days later the wound was discovered by insects and engulfed.

removed the damaged tip. no pics, sorry. I was anxious to remove the infestation.

Only Ornamental · Apr 20, 2014

Dam, that was bad mojo...
Look at it the positive way, at least you have now a topped plant as usually

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trichrider · Apr 20, 2014

...it was like a dinner bell.

the concept is intriguing tho' and i'll attempt it again when conditions permit.

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