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Jury Nulification: Spread it Around.

nitefarmer

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thanks, Hash .... I never realized how complicated this system is. What appears simple , is anything but that; I just hope NH someday will live up to the "Live free or die " credo.
 
This case from my A.O. became international news. I kind of know the judge, a resonable guy, not a hard liner.
I like to call it Stealth Jury Nullification. Basically keep your philosophy to yourself when questioned, say you can remain open minded about the case, and so on..

Missoula District Court: Jury pool in marijuana case stages ‘mutiny’


By GWEN FLORIO of the Missoulian | Posted: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:30 am | (128) Comments

A funny thing happened on the way to a trial in Missoula County District Court last week.

Jurors – well, potential jurors – staged a revolt.

They took the law into their own hands, as it were, and made it clear they weren’t about to convict anybody for having a couple of buds of marijuana. Never mind that the defendant in question also faced a felony charge of criminal distribution of dangerous drugs.


The tiny amount of marijuana police found while searching Touray Cornell’s home on April 23 became a huge issue for some members of the jury panel.

No, they said, one after the other. No way would they convict somebody for having a 16th of an ounce.

In fact, one juror wondered why the county was wasting time and money prosecuting the case at all, said a flummoxed Deputy Missoula County Attorney Andrew Paul.

District Judge Dusty Deschamps took a quick poll as to who might agree. Of the 27 potential jurors before him, maybe five raised their hands. A couple of others had already been excused because of their philosophical objections.

“I thought, ‘Geez, I don’t know if we can seat a jury,’ ” said Deschamps, who called a recess.


And he didn’t.

During the recess, Paul and defense attorney Martin Elison worked out a plea agreement. That was on Thursday.

On Friday, Cornell entered an Alford plea, in which he didn’t admit guilt. He briefly held his infant daughter in his manacled hands, and walked smiling out of the courtroom.

“Public opinion, as revealed by the reaction of a substantial portion of the members of the jury called to try the charges on Dec. 16, 2010, is not supportive of the state’s marijuana law and appeared to prevent any conviction from being obtained simply because an unbiased jury did not appear available under any circumstances,” according to the plea memorandum filed by his attorney.

“A mutiny,” said Paul.

“Bizarre,” the defense attorney called it.

In his nearly 30 years as a prosecutor and judge, Deschamps said he’s never seen anything like it.

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“I think that’s outstanding,” John Masterson, who heads Montana NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), said when told of the incident. “The American populace over the last 10 years or so has begun to believe in a majority that assigning criminal penalties for the personal possession of marijuana is an unjust and a stupid use of government resources.”

Masterson is hardly an unbiased source.

On the other hand, prosecutor, defense attorney and judge all took note that some of the potential jurors expressed that same opinion.

“I think it’s going to become increasingly difficult to seat a jury in marijuana cases, at least the ones involving a small amount,” Deschamps said.

The attorneys and the judge all noted Missoula County’s approval in 2006 of Initiative 2, which required law enforcement to treat marijuana crimes as their lowest priority – and also of the 2004 approval of a statewide medical marijuana ballot initiative.

And all three noticed the age of the members of the jury pool who objected. A couple looked to be in their 20s. A couple in their 40s. But one of the most vocal was in her 60s.

“It’s kind of a reflection of society as a whole on the issue,” said Deschamps.

Which begs a question, he said.

Given the fact that marijuana use became widespread in the 1960s, most of those early users are now in late middle age and fast approaching elderly.

Is it fair, Deschamps wondered, in such cases to insist upon impaneling a jury of “hardliners” who object to all drug use, including marijuana?

“I think that poses a real challenge in proceeding,” he said. “Are we really seating a jury of their peers if we just leave people on who are militant on the subject?”

Although the potential jurors in the Cornell case quickly focused on the small amount of marijuana involved, the original allegations were more serious – that Cornell was dealing; hence, a felony charge of criminal distribution of dangerous drugs.

Because the case never went to trial, members of the jury pool didn’t know that Cornell’s neighbors had complained to police that he was dealing from his South 10th Street West four-plex, according to an affidavit in the case. After one neighbor reported witnessing an alleged transaction between Cornell and two people in a vehicle, marijuana was found in the vehicle in question.

The driver and passenger said they’d bought it from Cornell, the affidavit said. A subsequent search of his home turned up some burnt marijuana cigarettes, a pipe and some residue, as well as a shoulder holster for a handgun and 9mm ammunition. As a convicted felon, Cornell was prohibited from having firearms, the affidavit noted.

Cornell admitted distributing small amounts of marijuana and “referred to himself as a person who connected other dealers with customers,” it said. “He claimed his payment for arranging deals was usually a small amount of marijuana for himself.”

Potential jurors also couldn’t know about Cornell’s criminal history, which included eight felonies, most of them in and around Chicago several years ago. According to papers filed in connection with the plea agreement, Cornell said he moved to Missoula to “escape the criminal lifestyle he was leading,” but he’s had a number of brushes with the law here.

Those include misdemeanor convictions for driving while under the influence and driving with a suspended license, and a felony conviction in August of conspiracy to commit theft, involving an alleged plot last year to stage a theft at a business where a friend worked, the papers said. He was out on bail in that case when the drug charges were filed.

In sentencing him Friday, Deschamps referred to him as “an eight-time loser” and said, “I’m not convinced in any way that you don’t present an ongoing threat to the community.”

Deschamps also pronounced himself “appalled” at Cornell’s personal life, saying: “You’ve got no education, you’ve got no skills. Your life’s work seems to be going out and impregnating women and not supporting your children.”

The mother of one of those children, a 3-month-old named Joy who slept through Friday’s sentencing, was in the courtroom for Friday’s sentencing. Cornell sought and received permission to hug his daughter before heading back to jail.

Deschamps sentenced Cornell to 20 years, with 19 suspended, under Department of Corrections supervision, to run concurrently with his sentence in the theft case. He’ll get credit for the 200 days he’s already served. The judge also ordered Cornell to get a GED degree upon his release.

“Instead of being a lazy bum, you need to get an education so you can get a decent law-abiding job and start supporting your family,” he said.

Normally, Paul said after the sentencing, a case involving such a small amount of marijuana wouldn’t have gone this far through the court system except for the felony charge involved.

But the small detail in this case may end up being a big game-changer in future cases.

The reaction of potential jurors in this case, Paul said, “is going to be something we’re going to have to consider.”
 

bentom187

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ahhhh just had my JD the other day what a enlightening experience. heres a little of it.

fist i had no compensation.
2nd when you sign in you have to fill out a form describing reasons you think youll be able to make a unbiased vote.(this is a screening prosses in wich they make sure you wont disagree or are more succeptable to the prossicutions story.
3rd you do have the right to a jury trial but its already set up for the jury to vote with the prosicution, so the judge offers a choice plea or leave it up to the biased jury.
so its a lose/ lose situation.
if you dont take the judges ruling or they find with out a ruling they will try you again ignoring the double jepordy clause until the prossicution can twist the story or find a dumber jury. not to mention what evidence can and cannot be shown and how its presented.
iknow most of this is in plain sight so i do expect some comments but its how they use it thats F'ed up.
the court system is rigged from begining to end.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^yup the justice system is totally rigged. lawyers and judges want it that way because it gives them a high paying job and makes them feel important.
 
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thesloppy

ahhhh just had my JD the other day what a enlightening experience. heres a little of it.

fist i had no compensation.
2nd when you sign in you have to fill out a form describing reasons you think youll be able to make a unbiased vote.(this is a screening prosses in wich they make sure you wont disagree or are more succeptable to the prossicutions story.

Not that I have any desire to defend the legal system, but as far as I know every county in America compensates their jurors, and the defense's attorney is just as involved in the 'Voir dire' process of jury selection, which I'm sure was explained to you in detail at the beginning of the selection process, having been on more than a few juries myself.

...my experience (and this post) tells me, that if anything should scare you about a jury trial, it's that only one out of five of 'your peers' are actually paying even the slightest sliver attention to anything going on in the courtroom, at any given moment. I dunno if everything and everybody is conspiring against you, so much as nobody really gives much of a shit what the hell happens to you, all the way down from the judge, the lawyers, and the jury....regardless, I guess the message is kinda the same: do everything under your power to keep your ass out of court in the first place, because your odds suck once you're there.
 

bentom187

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i think it only applies if the pannel is actually called to decide wich me and the rest of'em was not.
 
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thesloppy

Gawdammit. I shoulda kept my mouth shut about jury duty, cuz there was a fucking summons in my mailbox. Are you kidding me?
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Unless it is a sex, violence or theft crime. NULLIFY!. every other law is pretty much oppressive bullshit.
 

paladin420

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I would probaly get another haircut just so they would pick me. What a sacrafice for my brothers n sisters. 24 braided inches to locks of love and a jury nullulification. Win Win.
 

monkey5

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HashZeppelin, This thread is great! I would nominate this as "Post of the Year" ~~ Winner for sure! If all of our USA people understood this concept..there would be no more arrests for victumless crimes!! After all ..Why bother arresting people if they can not be convicted!!! Another reason WE should all always take a trial by a jury! Lol.. Thank you for making this thread!!! All parts are great info. monkey5
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^yup never settle for a plea deal, unless it is just a parking ticket. if the cops had what they needed to convict you then they would just do it, and offer you nothing.
 
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