Should we Peoplelize marijuana

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

If this is only about legalization, we should peoplelize marijuana,
claiming the profits for the needs of the people.

we could provide a first class grow area, along with everything needed

how much should we pay our growers/hour?
trimmers
cloners

Maria_Vanessa · Jun 19, 2010

SeniorBuzz said:
If this is only about legalization, we should nationalize marijuana,
claiming the profits for the needs of the people,
and then hire growers to grow it for us

we could provide a first class grow area, along with everything needed

how much should we pay our growers/hour?
trimmers
cloners

You realize what you are saying, on this forum, right?

Texicannibus · Jun 19, 2010

a unions already been proposed... and no nationalizing pot would only lead to the goverment having control over all aspects of the herb. I believe it would also keep the current underground black market alive and well.

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

If this is only about legalization, we should nationalize marijuana,
claiming the profits for the needs of the people.
The people would be the recipient of all monies,
not the government.
Controlled by the growers board of directors
owned entirely by the people

we could provide a first class grow area, along with everything needed

this is non-union
moderate income, but outstanding benefits package

how much should we pay our growers/hour?
trimmers
cloners

you can still grow at home

Grass Lands · Jun 19, 2010

in a perfect world, yes...but in the world we are in now...not a snowball chance in hell.

Maria_Vanessa · Jun 19, 2010

SeniorBuzz said:
If this is only about legalization, we should nationalize marijuana,
claiming the profits for the needs of the people.
The people would be the recipient of all monies,
not the government.
Controlled by the growers board of directors
owned entirely by the people

we could provide a first class grow area, along with everything needed

this is non-union
not high income, but outstanding benefit package

how much should we pay our growers/hour?
trimmers
cloners

you can still grow at home

As it is right now, some growers do not want legalization due to the potential cut in profits. I know alot of people here would prematurely cast blame on the government for any screw-up, but it has to be remembered that private citizens can be just as greedy. All you would need is at least one person bold enough to start skimming off the top, wehter it is money or the product itself.

Ideally, I like your idea. Realisitically, it would only be able to function on a local level, not on a national level, but I do like it.

Botanist · Jun 19, 2010

SeniorBuzz said:
If this is only about legalization, we should nationalize marijuana,
claiming the profits for the needs of the people.

The needs of the people be damned. I don't get it. Its like all of history will tell you that nationalizing anything will not meet the needs of the people but stifle them.

This mentality must die. Why can't we leave these old worn out ideas back in the dark ages where they belong.

Its as if you must not actually achieve the good of the people but only have the best intentions.

If you want to help the people and satisfy there needs then go for it. Work yourself into the grave for them. Just leave me out of it. Don't go off about enslaving an entire industry and then call it moral.

You and you alone are more the welcome to spill all the blood, sweet and tears you want for what ever the hell it is you call the people. Just keep the disaster to your own life.

johnnyla · Jun 19, 2010

bad idea.

it's a great idea in theory, like world peace. too bad it has no bearing on reality past present or future.

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

Maria_Vanessa said:
As it is right now, some growers do not want legalization due to the potential cut in profits. I know alot of people here would prematurely cast blame on the government for any screw-up, but it has to be remembered that private citizens can be just as greedy. All you would need is at least one person bold enough to start skimming off the top, wehter it is money or the product itself.

Ideally, I like your idea. Realisitically, it would only be able to function on a local level, not on a national level, but I do like it.

I can't see someone throwing away a job with great benefits, doing something they love to do.

besides as this would be a contained grow
with a non-profit dispensary in the front
we could minimize the risk

to help the local businesses, give a $20 coupon with every ounce

plus they could still grow at home

there would be one of these dispensaries in each county in CA

I put this on Twitter to invite more people into the discussion.

Planning ahead, for the coming collapse, we, the people,
should claim profits from the sale of marijuana
http://bit.ly/aePxM1
FOR BASIC FOOD

Maria_Vanessa · Jun 19, 2010

SeniorBuzz said:
I can't see someone throwing away a job with great benefits, doing something they love to do.

The majority of workers, yes I gare with you. But there would be someone, at least one person, willing do to so, blinded by greed and the possibility of how much she or he could get away with.

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

Maria_Vanessa said:
The majority of workers, yes I gare with you. But there would be someone, at least one person, willing do to so, blinded by greed and the possibility of how much she or he could get away with.

We'll be using a database to track output, for theft detection...the power of a databases is unbelievable

prefersativas · Jun 19, 2010

Basically, what you propose sounds very much like socialism. Quite nice in the abstract, but not very practical. The best way to help "the people" is to allow them the freedom to engage in the business of their choice and to keep whatever profits they earn. The idea that governments can direct an economy better than producers and consumers has been proven to fail every time. Ask the citizens of N. Korea or the old U.S.S.R.

Maria_Vanessa · Jun 19, 2010

prefersativas said:
Basically, what you propose sounds very much like socialism. Quite nice in the abstract, but not very practical. The best way to help "the people" is to allow them the freedom to engage in the business of their choice and to keep whatever profits they earn. The idea that governments can direct an economy better than producers and consumers has been proven to fail every time. Ask the citizens of N. Korea or the old U.S.S.R.

You'll get sent to a labor camp before you get a chance to do anything.

Maria_Vanessa · Jun 19, 2010

SeniorBuzz said:
We'll be using a database to track output, for theft detection...the power of a databases is unbelievable

Yes, it is. I created several of them through different jobs. But they can be circumvented even enough time and slow, meticulous careful planning.

I want to apologize to you SeniorBuzz if I made it seem like a hourly wage worker would be the one to steal. Theft would also includes senior and managerial levels as well. In general, my personal observations at work is that managers are more likely to steal than any of the hourly wage workers because they have more natural oppotunities to do so and not get caught, easily cover up their discreations or to blame it on someone else.

And to everyone else, especially Botanist ^_^, please try to settle down. These are important cannabis issues that this nation may one day have to face. And yes, while we all have our different viewpoints, we have to realistically admit to ourselves that it will always be a tough uphill battle when it comes to the legalization of cannabis. And that all the of policies for cannabis that we may personally reject because of our own honor and moral codes, those policies will realistically be enacted, by voters and politicians of in all political parties and all political spectrums.

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

prefersativas said:
Basically, what you propose sounds very much like socialism. Quite nice in the abstract, but not very practical. The best way to help "the people" is to allow them the freedom to engage in the business of their choice and to keep whatever profits they earn. The idea that governments can direct an economy better than producers and consumers has been proven to fail every time. Ask the citizens of N. Korea or the old U.S.S.R.

This is only for a medical marijuana dispensary; that's the only thing legal, at this point in time.

there are many unfortunate people
who have been swept up by the coming depression
we are going to make sure that people don't go hungry

by providing sacks of beans, rice....

I keep close track of the economy, here and globally
it certainly doesn't look good from where I'm sitting
and as mentioned, I am very good with data and analysis

that was my life

just thought it would be good to prepare, just in case

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

Maria_Vanessa said:
Yes, it is. I created several of them through different jobs. But they can be circumvented even enough time and slow, meticulous careful planning.

I want to apologize to you SeniorBuzz if I made it seem like a hourly wage worker would be the one to steal. Theft would also includes senior and managerial levels as well. In general, my personal observations at work is that managers are more likely to steal than any of the hourly wage workers because they have more natural oppotunities to do so and not get caught, easily cover up their discreations or to blame it on someone else.

And to everyone else, especially Botanist ^_^, please try to settle down. These are important cannabis issues that this nation may one day have to face. And yes, while we all have our different viewpoints, we have to realistically admit to ourselves that it will always be a tough uphill battle when it comes to the legalization of cannabis. And that all the of policies for cannabis that we may personally reject because of our own honor and moral codes, those policies will realistically be enacted, by voters and politicians of in all political parties and all political spectrums.

few have had my experience; don't know of anyone who has looked at more data, or done more with it, than me. are you familiar with algorithms?

the person that has the data, has control, and is responsible for the safety of the people's money. it would result in committing a federal offense, a crime against the people...and we are the people.

NOTB · Jun 19, 2010

this is one of the dumbest thing's i ever heard of, do you REALLY think that all these people that are earning millions of tax free dollars under the table will actually like register theirselves with the i.r.s. and start paying tax's on all the weed they could be making soooo much more on if they keep their mouths shut just because it's legal? the main thing that most people fail to mention is that after generations of being underground it's IMPOSSIBLE for any country to lock it down absolutely because it literally grow's wild in some place's and is grown indoors in so many other place's it's just not gonna happen EVER it's way way to late for that and the gov. know's this, contrary to what you guy's believe they are not THAT stupid, while we are at it let's tax crackheads too i'm sure that'll work out great. and as for the price going down and drug dealers(alot of you guy's) losing money that is just as dumb it's not the illegality of weed that has the price so high it's demand just like any other product legal or otherwise when i started smoking when i was a kid 1/8's of NL,skunk,afghani etc. were $25-30 apiece the people selling it for 30 were considered rip now it's $40 an 1/8 SOP because all these ghetto trash rappers are glamourizing it, movie stars are debating it on t.v.,socially it's basically being given the green light as opposed to years ago when people like us use to be laughed at and called dumb dopers and stuff like that, the same people that used to call me names for smoking are smoking it now because it's socially exceptable(trendy bandwagon jumping bastards) THAT'S why people will continue to make the same $$$ no matter what. thank you for your time

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

NOTB said:
this is one of the dumbest thing's i ever heard of, do you REALLY think that all these people that are earning millions of tax free dollars under the table will actually like register theirselves with the i.r.s. and start paying tax's on all the weed they could be making soooo much more on if they keep their mouths shut just because it's legal? the main thing that most people fail to mention is that after generations of being underground it's IMPOSSIBLE for any country to lock it down absolutely because it literally grow's wild in some place's and is grown indoors in so many other place's it's just not gonna happen EVER it's way way to late for that and the gov. know's this, contrary to what you guy's believe they are not THAT stupid, while we are at it let's tax crackheads too i'm sure that'll work out great. and as for the price going down and drug dealers(alot of you guy's) losing money that is just as dumb it's not the illegality of weed that has the price so high it's demand just like any other product legal or otherwise when i started smoking when i was a kid 1/8's of NL,skunk,afghani etc. were $25-30 apiece the people selling it for 30 were considered rip now it's $40 an 1/8 SOP because all these ghetto trash rappers are glamourizing it, movie stars are debating it on t.v.,socially it's basically being given the green light as opposed to years ago when people like us use to be laughed at and called dumb dopers and stuff like that, the same people that used to call me names for smoking are smoking it now because it's socially exceptable(trendy bandwagon jumping bastards) THAT'S why people will continue to make the same $$$ no matter what. thank you for your time

nothing is going to change for the independent growers
no registration requested, or desired

NOTB · Jun 19, 2010

due to the oppression there are so many indy growers you guy's would all have to chop your plant's down and conform to actually effect some kinda change, way more indy growers supply med patients than the dispensories so the whole point is kinda moot, i don't mean registered patient's i mean everybody that literally need's it just to live pain free or sane or whatever i know because i should be registered but can't get it due to fed's harrassing the doc's.

SeniorBuzz · Jun 19, 2010

NOTB said:
due to the oppression there are so many indy growers you guy's would all have to chop your plant's down and conform to actually effect some kinda change, way more indy growers supply med patients than the dispensories so the whole point is kinda moot, i don't mean registered patient's i mean everybody that literally need's it just to live pain free or sane or whatever i know because i should be registered but can't get it due to fed's harrassing the doc's.

I think we could get the feds off your back this way

this would essentially be, cutting a slice of the medical market,
to feed the people, and give you great benefits

using available demographics for each CA county

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