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Detection of electrical signaling between tomato plants

CannaRed

Cannabinerd
Thought this was a cool article

The soil beneath our feet is alive with electrical signals being sent from one plant to another, according to research in which a University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH) distinguished professor emeritus in the Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering participated.



UAH's Dr. Yuri Shtessel and Dr. Alexander Volkov, a professor of biochemistry at Oakwood University, coauthored a paper that used physical experiments and mathematical modeling to study transmission of electrical signals between tomato plants.

Dr. Shtessel's specialty is control engineering. Control algorithms are widely applicable across disciplines, for instance in aerospace vehicle control.

At Oakwood, Dr. Volkov has been studying electrical signal propagation within a plant and also between plants through a network of Mycorrhizal fungi that's ubiquitous in soil and appears to act as circuitry. The pair first collaborated on the research in 2017.

"Dr. Volkov is a prominent scholar in biochemistry. Once, we were talking about the electrical signal propagation though the plant's stem and between the plants—plant communication—through the soil," Dr. Shtessel says. "I suggested building an equivalent electrical circuit and a corresponding mathematical model that describes these processes."

The mathematical modeling is based on ordinary and partial differential equations. Dr. Shtessel was in charge of building the models, running the simulations and generating the plots.

"What benefits could be gained from mathematical modeling of the communication processes?" he asks. "The answer is very simple: we can use the math model for simulating the studied processes on a computer instead of running expensive and lengthy experiments."

Plants generate electric signals that propagate through their parts. When the roots of tomatoes are experimentally isolated from each other with an air gap, the electrical impedance of the gap is very large.

"The electrical signals won't go through this gap," Dr. Shtessel says. In that experiment, communication between plants via their roots was prevented, as was discovered by Dr. Volkov.

However, when the plants are living in common soil, experiments conducted by Dr. Volkov found that the ground impedance is not very large and they can communicate by passing electrical signals to each other through the Mycorrhizal network in the soil.

"We studied experimentally and analytically via simulations the communication network between two plants only," Dr. Shtessel says.

The tomato research, which focused on experimental study and mathematical modeling of electrical signal propagation between plants of the same species, opens new doors to questions about whether plants communicate across species through fungi.

"I think that it is definitely possible that signals can propagate through the root network and spread in the common ground or soil from a tomato plant to, let's say, an oak," Dr. Shtessel says. "The soil plays the role of a conductor."

Likewise, the nature of any messages being sent is unknown and the possibility of cognition was beyond the scope of the experiment. Dr. Shtessel calls those extremely interesting questions.

"No study of the cognitive processing of the electric signals passed and received by the plants was accomplished," he says. "Another issue is to study the plants' communications via electric waves through the air. This is a different story that has not been deeply studied yet."



More information: Alexander G. Volkov et al. Underground electrotonic signal transmission between plants, Communicative & Integrative Biology (2020). DOI: 10.1080/19420889.2020.1757207

Provided by University of Alabama in Huntsville

https://phys.org/news/2020-07-electrical-tomato.html
 
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Guest

I wonder if the plants have more electrical capacity than the brain of AOC!! It’s got to be about even.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Chemistry is part electricity.

when molecules swap atoms, it's often because of voltage differences.

sort of like the molecular version of wife-swapping.

of course, temperature matters too.
 

MrMMJ

Member
I wonder if the plants have more electrical capacity than the brain of AOC!! It’s got to be about even.


With you left far behind.....

Judging by your post it would come as no surprise that you "wonder" about most things.



How does a childish, off-topic post illustrating your fear of an intelligent woman seem at all appropriate ? Too many big words in the article to comprehend and then form an actual thought on to contribute ?


As a lifelong grower and retired electrician, I find this interesting. Hopefully it doesn't devolve into inane political bs....
 
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Guest

With you left far behind.....

Judging by your post it would come as no surprise that you "wonder" about most things.



How does a childish, off-topic post illustrating your fear of an intelligent woman seem at all appropriate ? Too many big words in the article to comprehend and then form an actual thought on to contribute ?


As a lifelong grower and retired electrician, I find this interesting. Hopefully it doesn't devolve into inane political bs....
I am actually an industrial electrician and have been for 30 years working with the latest automation controls. The fact you consider that talking plant intelligent makes me wonder how many times you have been used as a ground for high voltage. Too many.
 

mcattak

Active member
I am actually an industrial electrician and have been for 30 years working with the latest automation controls. The fact you consider that talking plant intelligent makes me wonder how many times you have been used as a ground for high voltage. Too many.

Angry Stewart

Noticed you had to cut everything down because you couldn't hold your mud.

You reap what you sow
 
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