Hey BL those LEDs don't have much of a foot print up close ya almost need four of em for a 4x4 I want the spydr xl 15 hun US though ! one day plants are looking good DWD liking the new light..
at 8" right over their heads is plenty for the first day. I've got three more that I'll add as I wrap the girls around the tent Still will only be 1000w total for the 5x5. I'd rather build a rigid frame it can sit on than stress the cables more. I very much like the COB led rail idea. The plants like the light and it has better quality and spread than the 600. Plants respond more for sure. LED and coco are an excellent match. Also explains why they want so much CalMag. That said, I won't run this coco mix anymore, just straight coir and perlite, precharged with calmag and phd.
The top dressing the OD got kicked them into happy green mode. The ZAmxKCs under screens are starting to fill them out and actually grow larger. Good thing as even for me they were a bit too small They're taking it like champs, no burn. I'll have to get in there before lights on and pull plants down, spyders up.
orfeas
Usually with comic results-Love that local NLD you've got.
What was it? Zam/kc? ... Haven't puffed this one early in the morning for quite a while and was just rolling a spliff .
thats what I did, go get some black pipe and just thread the last one backwards, then you got bad ass frame. I hang everything on mine, fans, lights, etc. Those are vicious looking mate. Nice led. Think I should replace my hps?Hey, fellas, thanks for the input. The spyders have 7 bulbs averaging 15w each, so 105w. The spacing on the spyders for the bulbs is a little close for my taste also making a small, intense 10x10in footprint, maaaaybe a foot sq, that's why I keep a little distance
That's a whole lotta LED. I may try and rig something so I can lift the Amare another 6". Heavy sucker
For the outside girls, I top dressed with EWC, langbeinite (contains k and Mg) and guano with P and Ca. Very light, watered in with rainwater. It's raining every night, so they'll have something to eat. Also prepared foliar with Neem oil, microbes and CalMag, mainly for the inside babes.
Anyhoo, I'm reassured everyone's covered for the time being and conditions are good. Mushrooms are a' poppin on the mountains
That was Lady STraight I partook of, who's just a bit STRONG in general for morning smoke. Also mindset was freaky, shoulda taken a walk 
Saludos, dubi, I really don't think I'd have the hermie rate I got if I hadn't stressed the plants with light issues. Plus, this is some first grade stuff. Miss P is the densest bud I've ever grown. I'll take a photo of one on a scale so you can see the finished product. Extraordinarily hard nugs bunched like fists on the stems (was gonna say dog balls), beautiful blue/green color with those electric orange hairs and her deep mango that went hard caramel for a while and now is back to sweet mango cream. People LOVE this stuff. It is very social, smiley, super creative, hmmm like a mental cocaine almost. There's visual/mental trippiness with no terror and I can apparently still type. Body is aware, light, head moves around a lot with all the thoughts careening around in there... at least while thinking. Lastly, no tiredness or heavy comedown after a few weeks in the jar.
All this to say that although I haven't met her parents, this particular girl is a keeper and she was taken earliest at 8 weeks. I've got the last two seedlings outside alongside the Zamaldelica x Panama and Malawis and they look excellent, also 6 successful Lady S and Miss P clones, looks like
Sorry the last order was so difficult to execute, but I am damn glad to have it. Work is going much better now, so there will be another order soon, to fatten my personal seedbank.
Happy 4th all, dwd
There are 4 more plants in there dry and curing and to get to know, so more to come.
Things you can't see in the photos: Lady S is curing to a burnt red color, and is as dense as Miss P with different bud shape. ZamTam is potent smoke and sticky to break up, obviously not nuggy like the others. SHe and Beast both tend toward the purple, Beast being super dense and perhaps prophetically, a little aggressive. 5-top doesn't have the beautiful colors of Miss P, but has hard, nuggy buds and is very kind smoke. I'll do more in depth reports on their respective effects/terps when they have another month or so of cure and with a cleansed palate.
Here dey is
Morning, fellas, yeah, syd, nice and easy start to the day (not) That was Lady STraight I partook of, who's just a bit STRONG in general for morning smoke. Also mindset was freaky, shoulda taken a walk
The Amare Se 450 run somewhere between 400-450watts, definitely replaces a 600 with 3x3 or 4x4 flower footprint, runs MUCh cooler, weighs a good 30lbs. I like the COBs as they're super strong single source/full spectrum light, can get better spread and intensity than smaller diodes. That said, a much more expensive 1000w Black Dog Led would do the trick nicely with bigger footprint. Say 3 DIY 4 COB rails covering 4x2 each wouldn't be so expensive and would provide great light. The claim is the COBs're better than CMH spectrum wise and produce much less heat/last very long. If I had an even canopy, the screw in LEDs would make excellent quality, low wattage grow, and on the cheap.
Texicwaste, thanks for the idea on the frame. Can you post a pic? Get rid of the HID is what I say, especially as I think you've got two 315w cmhs in there, plus what was it 1200w HPS? It looks like a 4x4 area, so you could keep the cmhs and replace the HPS with a 750w Black Dog or 2 or 3 cob rails - in either case'll both run a lot cooler than the HPS and convert your energy to better quality light. That said, that crazy yield you've got going means you've got a good recipe for success right now
Price breakdowns: Black Dog 1000w new 2500$, used 1300$ if you get a deal
Screw in DIY Spyders 105w around 55$ each one sq foot footprint
Amare SE 450 3x3 or 4x4 footprint at $1100 or so new, or get extremely lucky, like I did
LED 4 COB rail @288w, premium drivers, COBs, fans, etc. was at 260$ with 4x2 footprint. Can't locate them anymore. If I can find, 2 of these is what I'll do.
That's the word, hope all 're well and happy, dwd
I'm anxious to see both again and to compare indoor and outdoor! Worth noting that 5-top, similar to your pheno, is very strong and fruity. It's interesting to be surrounded by dispensaries and concentrates are hugely popular, dabs, wax, etc, and ALL of it feels dirty... and people actually recognize the difference with Ace strains. I wasn't sure they'd be able to, but they do. ANyhoo, enjoy your evening, might be some shooting stars about.Thanks for the explanation deepwaterdude
That was the goal for this hybrid: to produce a very fast flowering and easy to grow sativa/indica hybrid, with very solid, dense, resinous flowers of great bag appeal, of high quality 'more sativa' influenced effects and very complex terpenes.
The harvested and trimmed buds look simply delicious
They are some of the most beautiful sativa/indica flowers i have seen from our current catalog or from our latest works.
The outdoor plants look very healthy and happy, the Zamaldelica x Kali China clones should start to flower very soon. Hopefully they remain completely sexually firm until the end of flowering, and that the outdoor finished product is even better than the first indoor test!
It's always a nice change to move from indoors to outdoors and experience the same genetics in a different environment.
Thanks for all your updates!
orfeas
"...might be some shooting stars about."
Perseids are almost no more...yet we were lucky, as far as spectacle goes, to catch a "long" glimpse of several of them ...the brightest and longest one ran a span of about 15 degrees...
The a-year and a half cured MxPCK is more than conducive
After a month or so of not smoking, I had a joint of local Salento sativa on the rooftop of a farmhouse with my gal, mid August, a few years back, almost at the tip of the heel of the boot of Italy, and MAN, that was a memorable display, in all senses of the word
