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Old 08-18-2017, 04:10 PM #11
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Ultra,Concert in Split,Croatia.. lot of youth comes.. police kills young man 24 years cause
of 6 grams of weed in plastic baggie,guy tryed to swallow package but policeman kicks him in ribs
and neck and person suffocated with package... that was happend before 2 weeks or so..

that is the only death i know officialy from weed.. but i belive police was help a lot
in that case..


there is even video on Youtoube... Croatian folks was very harsh this days to policemans as they bother and kill kids cause
of few grams of weed.. but in the end nothing happends.. guy is dead,policemans are not suspended...
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they said the same thing about schizophrenia, that pot smoke caused it

NOW science says that reality is people with latent schizophrenia are more likely to smoke because of the latent disease

so the question becomes how many people who have cardiovascular stress and heart conditions smoke because stress physically pains them?

How many people who smoke pot smoke cigarettes? what part of the population with 3x the amount of disease also led poor lifestyles potentially before they found weed?

Remember weed is a medicine but you need to use it with that intent and then allow the benefit you get from it to address other facets of lifestyle for optimal health

Smoke in and of itself will not heal you from continued bad lifestyle choices
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Old 08-18-2017, 04:32 PM #13
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How many lives did Cannabis save or made better?
The medical MJ scene is expanding exponentionally.

All the deaths are a result of oppression.
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This qualifies as anti cannabis propaganda how many people will die of alcoholic congestion this year? And that shits legal! Weknow its killing people from long term use and short term. Where are the stories of that?
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fuck alcohol lets talk about sugar and how its killing people....
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The utter bullshit and fear mongering that has been abounding in the media is really amazing. . .

I swear they could tell people that day is night and people would believe it. . .

The major news outlets are not your friend.
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I read that article and marijuana was not listed as cause of death and the coroner said he had no reason why the guy’s heart went haywire and stopped. The coroner also suggested the family should seek out a geneticist and possibly have cardiovascular genetic testing to see if there’s a family history of genetic issues.

Probably the best information from that article came from a doctor from the Mayo Clinic. He said “our work is only as good as the studies that are done, but if they can’t be done, then we really can’t be definitive about anything.”
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Why don't you get back to us on that? Sounds a little shaky!
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Medical Examiners Unable To Say If Cannabis Was Cause of Death
Weed Ended Up Killing Their 22-Year-Old Son

A number of factors inhibit research on marijuana, including ongoing federal prohibition and problems with the quality of the cannabis used in official studies.

Even so, a number of studies have identified promising therapeutic and medicinal qualities of cannabis. And of course, thousands of people have said they’ve found success self-medicating with marijuana.

But there is also a body of research that highlights the dangers of cannabis use, especially for young adults and teenagers. At just 22 years old, Michael Ziobros may have been especially at risk.

But the medical examiner who found THC in Michael’s blood, Dr. Junaid Shaikh, told Today that he was unable to determine for sure whether or not cannabis killed the young man. In his report, the examiner noted that there just isn’t enough information about the effects of cannabis on the heart.

Importantly, one recent study does point to higher cardiovascular risks for cannabis users. According to Barbara Yankey and her team at Georgia State University, people who used cannabis had a threefold higher risk of dying from high blood pressure.

Parents Say Weed Ended Up Killing Their 22-Year-Old Son
Despite the inconclusive evidence, the Ziobros remain convinced their son died due to smoking extremely potent cannabis.

As such, they are unsatisfied with the explanation by the Union County Medical Examiner.

However, Dr. Shaikh did recommend in a letter to New Jersey state senator Thomas Kean that the Ziobros consider cardiovascular genetic testing to rule out possible hereditary causes for the arrhythmia that killed their son.

The Ziobros plan to follow that advice. But the Ziobros also hope that their tragic story will encourage others to take a closer look at the risks of using cannabis.

They knew their son used marijuana to treat his irritable bowel syndrome symptoms. And like him, they believed it was safe. “He just thought it was natural and organic and it ended up killing him,” said Kristina Ziobro.

That's what I saw..... take it or leave it. It's possible.
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Doubt it was "the cause"....but may have contributed to his death....so yes, it's possible. Besides Crohn's disease, there might have been some other underlying heart problems, uncharted/unknown. High THC might have contributed to spike in blood pressure, but as mourning parents say, "it [marijuana]killed him"....not enough concrete evidence. More contributory than causal without extensive cardiac function/cannabis studies conducted out there.
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Also, there's the fact that it would be absolutely unprecedented if someone died from cannabis. If anybody DID actually die from cannabis, would we ever have gotten this far in terms of legalization? I don't think so.

It's not like cannabis is some new drug that nobody knows about. I have personally TRIED to kill myself with cannabis MANY times, but I always wake up in the morning. So there ya go.
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