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Old 09-09-2017, 09:02 AM #171
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Just wondering if anyone with this has been able to find a way to continue to use cannabis without the stomach issues especially the throwing up. Be nice if you can private message to discuss in detail. Haven't been able to smoke for a long a time.
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Have you looked into:

Sourcing cannabis without neem oil, neem seed meal or azadirachtin products.
Taking an anti-histamine, such as Benadryl
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Getting an H.Pylori test and treatment

I'm 100% cured of digestive issues, haven't had any pain in months. Not since the treatment to get rid of the H.Pylori. I also haven't had any aza tainted cannabis lately.

About to test some tainted dabs in the next few days. Wish me luck!
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About to test some tainted dabs in the next few days. Wish me luck!

Good luck! can you do a blind study? have someone give you 4 samples - two tainted and two clean - and only they know which is which - take away a placebo effect???
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:49 AM #173
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Good luck! can you do a blind study? have someone give you 4 samples - two tainted and two clean - and only they know which is which - take away a placebo effect???
I'll make sure to have them be blind tests. The folks supplying the dabs are more than happy to help out.
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there are 35W fixtures wired and with passive heatsink with 1x cxb3590 CD bin.
One of these should be in every smokers home at least... 30gram of homegrown over 3months will be max =15-20Dollars in electricity in the most expensive parts of the world!
lets say the fixture is 200dollars(i didnt check the price, you can ask jerry or vivi from kingbright alibaba)
thats weed for 8dollars/1g FIRST GROW!

second grow will be 1dollar/g... come on, dont buy unless you really have to and have a very good source...
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Hey Douglas thanks for the reply and info!

I've tried aza free but couldn't verify cause was just a random grower. Some of the herbs made me sick some didn't picked up a few 8ths from him with various outcomes.

Haven't tested for H.pylori might have to do that.

So have you been feeling nauseous at all when you smoke? I could deal with stomach pains but when I get all nauseous it's hard to do anything and deters me from using cannabis for sure.

Good luck on your dabs!
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Zero nausea now, though I'm pretty sure I've been neem/aza free. I feel like I did 10 years ago, can digest things like I could back then. Crazy.

I'm going to make sure the testing is worth it. We're growing out some cannabis and some of it will be treated. We'll be setting up a double blind test, two different days. We'll see what my reaction is to aza for sure. It's going to be a few months though.

What reaction does your nausea and issues have to benadryl or other anti-histamines?
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That's good glad you're doing better.

Looking forward to your update on the blind tests.

I took anti-histamines for one day didn't seem to help but I guess I didn't give it a fair shot.

It's been off and on with the nausea last few years that's why I've leaned towards it being something in the grow process like aza. Could smoke all day and be fine for months then bam get sick and it doesn't go away for awhile.

Also what's yours or anyone's thoughts on cbd to thc ratio? I've heard ppl say that could be something.
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That's good glad you're doing better.

Looking forward to your update on the blind tests.

I took anti-histamines for one day didn't seem to help but I guess I didn't give it a fair shot.

It's been off and on with the nausea last few years that's why I've leaned towards it being something in the grow process like aza. Could smoke all day and be fine for months then bam get sick and it doesn't go away for awhile.

Also what's yours or anyone's thoughts on cbd to thc ratio? I've heard ppl say that could be something.
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Your occasional issue may be H.Pylori related, or a specific food or food additive? Not sure. If you test positive for H.Pylori, getting rid of it should impact that for sure. I used to go a long time between issues. In the most recent years the trouble was nearly constant, regardless of actually being re-poisoned or not. Yes, without the H.Pylori all the between-poisoning issues are gone.

As for CBD:THC ratios... I've personally been using strains with less and less CBD for 30+ years. Just recently I've spent a few years with high CBD strains. Only thing consistent for me is my reaction to aza. lol
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Maybe also try some Aloe Vera 100% Juice.
I don't have CHS but other digestive issues and the Aloe Vera 100% Juice does wonders.
It's very cheap (atleast here in the EU) around 12 euro for a 750 ml bottle. And you only need to use 30 ml.
It takes my intestine pains away. Removes bowl blockages. And because of the good working intestines my headaches are gone too. It doesn't cause cramps.
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Definitely an improvement, so glad to hear it. Have you been tested for H.Pylori? I continually suffered from digestion issues between poisonings with aza. I recently had an H.Pylori test done and the dual antibiotic/prilosec treatment.

My digestion is back to normal. First time in 10 years. I highly recommend looking into an H.Pylori test. I'll be very surprised if you test negative for it. I'm thinking CHS may be a combination of sensitivity to neem/aza, presence of H.Pylori resulting in a significant bloom of the bacteria in the gut. Possibly the aza destroys a beneficial bacteria which keeps the H.Pylori at normal levels. Dunno, but I'm 1000% better than I've been the last 10 years. Put on 10lbs so fast it made my head spin. heh

Light at the end of the tunnel.
This sounds like an intriguing possible cofactor. Some of my symptoms could be explained by a problem H. pylori infection. Most people are positive for it, so I likely have it regardless.

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Your occasional issue may be H.Pylori related, or a specific food or food additive? Not sure. If you test positive for H.Pylori, getting rid of it should impact that for sure. I used to go a long time between issues. In the most recent years the trouble was nearly constant, regardless of actually being re-poisoned or not. Yes, without the H.Pylori all the between-poisoning issues are gone.

As for CBD:THC ratios... I've personally been using strains with less and less CBD for 30+ years. Just recently I've spent a few years with high CBD strains. Only thing consistent for me is my reaction to aza. lol
Interesting info. My good friend who also has this claims a high degree of influence from diet as will, with high sugar-carbs causing episodes. This could be related to favoring H. pylori in the gut. My diet is moderately good, mostly vegetable, egg, and dairy. I do have a weakness for breakfast cereals, energy drinks, and doughnuts though. Maybe I need to further restrict these.





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The people getting this are really just getting pesticide poisoning and don't know it cause they aren't growing their own buds, i kinda feel sorry for them , this whole industry is all about money and not about the final product and it shows.
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Complete idiots will always buy fuckered pot and the producers know it. I smell neem every time i go to a dispensary. Or dairy (not UK Cheese, but organic fungicides) The person next to me says "man that's skunky, gimme an 8th of that, here's 60 bucks bro" and i get sick to my stomach wishing I could jump on the counter and start screaming "WEED DONT SMELL LIKE FUCKING PEANUTS OR BUTTER!"
I'm not sure you have read the whole thread, but I doubt the answer is so simple. As has been mentioned Neem has its own long history of internal and external human use, so at most this is a hypothesis or a cofactor.
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