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Old 09-16-2017, 01:39 PM #2931
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Next year, much more top dressing. Lot less feeds. Much higher P levels in the soil. Only fertigation will be amino's and mpk. At least on some of the crop.

How is everybody's season going? My outdoor plants are getting HEAVY! Can't believe it.
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Old 09-16-2017, 03:09 PM #2932
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Anybody have solid advise on drying and curing? Would love to hear what some of the pros in this thread have to say.
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Take this for what you think it is worth...IMO...if your plants are super healthy you reach 55% humidity in 7 days. The less healthy they are the quicker you gotta go.

I like 70 F, 55% humidity and enough air flow to finish in 7 days.

Again that is imo...nothing more
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:01 PM #2934
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My method for drying and curing is as follows.
I'll hang the whole plant upside down in a dedicated tent for x number of days until the fan leaf stem and smaller branches seem mostly dry. Then I'll limb them and place in large paper bags and continue drying at a slower rate in the same tent. At the point one would transfer into jars for curing, I take the whole bag and place in a dedicated freezer until I need.
Here is an interesting thread on the topic.
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Thanks for the responses........ I am conflicted.........

Jidoka. You are saying, what few others say. It is of my opinion, that most people will tell you slow and steady. To me, in the past, this meant 60% rh set, and 60 degree F. When I have large nugs, it can take two full weeks to dry correctly at these levels.

What you are saying, is what I keep hearing from the best in the industry. I stayed at the last emerald cup and listened to the head guy from Wonderland Nursery and Archive seeds state you want very little air circulation, no exhaust fans, RH set down at 40% and temps around 70f. This would cause much faster drying period.

His reasons were less loss of terps, and you actually get a crust that keeps in terps when dried fast. Kind of like searing a steak on both sides, holds the juice in better.

Now here you come along and start talking about plant health being a factor as well...... What does that mean? I assume you are bug, and mildew free at this point, so a longer dry shouldn't exacerbate these issues. So why would plant health matter? I know higher levels of Ca will prolong the life of your finished fruit, but can you extrapolate please?


Outcold - Thanks! That is how i used to do it when I was a smaller operation. Trying to figure out how to create a paper bag like environment with dry rooms, humidifiers, dehumidifiers, ac, ext ext.
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What you are saying, is what I keep hearing from the best in the industry. I stayed at the last emerald cup and listened to the head guy from Wonderland Nursery and Archive seeds state you want very little air circulation, no exhaust fans, RH set down at 40% and temps around 70f. This would cause much faster drying period.

His reasons were less loss of terps, and you actually get a crust that keeps in terps when dried fast. Kind of like searing a steak on both sides, holds the juice in better.

Now here you come along and start talking about plant health being a factor as well...... What does that mean? I assume you are bug, and mildew free at this point, so a longer dry shouldn't exacerbate these issues. So why would plant health matter? I know higher levels of Ca will prolong the life of your finished fruit, but can you extrapolate please?


Outcold - Thanks! That is how i used to do it when I was a smaller operation. Trying to figure out how to create a paper bag like environment with dry rooms, humidifiers, dehumidifiers, ac, ext ext.
I like the analogy about searing the steak. That is a great description...

Dense well grown flowers that are brought to a shelf ready state in a week seem to hold terps far better. You get that nice crunchy but still sticky quality upon breaking up a nug.

Underground cold storage with dehumidifiers is optimum. A sealed hoop in the shade with dehumidifiers and a silage tarp covering it for outdoor though...
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Lol. Ima just tap out on this one. I agree with so little of any of that the argument is not worth it
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Well, thanks for sharing. I am going to dial my first round through the rooms at the RH and temps your recommend. See how it does me. Thanks.
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Use air flow to control time. And oscillate the fans. Imo you do not want a crust. Trapping water in the bud is an excellent way to accelerate microbial growth.

If mean gene actually takes 4 weeks no wonder he kills at the emerald cup. It is just a matter of risk/reward for me beyond a week

I got a personal sfv...maybe I will try 4 on it
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