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Cop shots and kills deaf wood carver

Applesauce

Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjv-jma8ECk

Ian Birk, 27, who joined the department two years ago, was on patrol Monday afternoon when he saw John T. Williams crossing Boren Avenue at Howell Street carrying a folding knife and a piece of wood.

The officer pulled his cruiser over and approached Williams, police officials said. Police say Birk ordered him to drop the knife three times before he fired five shots from a distance of nine to 10 feet killing him. The knife was found closed.

Initial reports by the police were that the man advanced on the officer with the knife; however, the department on Tuesday said it could no longer be sure that occurred.

Sean Whitcomb, the police department's spokesman, said Wednesday that the department was looking for additional witnesses to the shooting or anyone who might have been with Williams earlier in the day.

Birk has been placed on routine administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.

Alex Castas, general manager of Ye Olde Curiosity Shop on the Seattle waterfront, said his shop has been buying carvings from Williams' family for five generations, stretching back to the 1880s, when the shop used to buy from tribal members paddling up in canoes.

He said he had known Williams for 15 years, and never known him to be violent, though he often knew Williams to be incoherent because of drinking.

"I can definitely see a scenario where John had been drinking and it is taking him a while to focus exactly on what is going on; I could see him tripping more than I could see him lunging."

It was the same for Chaney Haney and Julie Reisman, co-owners of Glo, a restaurant on Capitol Hill where Williams sold his work, and liked to sit on the bench outside on the sidewalk, carving.

"I wonder if the officer knew he was hard of hearing; he told me he could not hear out of one ear," Haney said. "If it was my guess, I would just say he was standing there and the officer was trying to get his attention and John didn't hear him."

Reisman said Williams was slow on his feet, and difficult to communicate with.

"He is not a lucid person. You can't have a coherent conversation with him. You say, 'How is it going?' and he will start talking about something that has nothing to do with here and now," Reisman said. "There was a real disconnect there between what he was receiving and what he was putting out."
 

Applesauce

Member
Completely unreal. To quote RAGE... "Something must be done, about vengeance, a badge, and a gun."

Shooting happens less than a minute in, it isn't graphic but there is sound.

Essentially this man was a hard of hearing native american wood carver. From what I gather he was very talented and well known for his family's work. He was holding a piece of wood and *closed* knife when the cop saw him and approached him from behind ordering him to drop the knife. Seconds later he was shot several times and MURDERED.
 

ddrew

Active member
Veteran
A guy with a closed pocket knife does not deserve to be shot 5 times.
WTF, why not tazer him?

God I hate the Nazi police here, any excuse to shoot and they are all over it.

Edit: Just watched the Vid, that's fucking garbage, the guy was just walking across the street doing nothing, and this piece of shit jumps out of his car and guns him down.
Murderer, he should be in jail.

NO more stupid highschool losers with chips on their shoulders(98% of cops today)

This crap doesn't happen in other civilized nations, this country is just fucking barbaric, free my ass, free to get shot walking down the street, that's the only freedom we have here.
 
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river rat01

Member
i saw this vid a few days ago- totally unjustified shooting.

he was not using the knife in a threatining manner at all, just carving wood.

i went on a police forum just to see what they had to say about it, and of course they were all on the cops side
 
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Applesauce

Member
Edited thread title. I would like to say I am SO HIGH and that was why the thread title was mis-spelled, but I'm not. Shit!
 

qwerty

Member
Man...I wish I could write a proper response like Genkisan. All I can say is if this cop doesn't receive harsh punishment, what kind of world do we live in.
 

Kush_Master

High Grade Specialist
Veteran
wow i read that thread on the cop board and there they are all patting each other on the back how that was justified, 21 foot rule, blablabla.

then one guy makes an statement against this how you cant abuse 21 foot rule to just shoot ppl at will and they just ignore him, and go on about how stupid and ignorant non-LEOs are. nice....
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
That man was murdered.

:badday:

On the tape I quit watching when there was a woman who pointed out that he just killed an innocent man... and then Opie whines about "Ma'am he had a knife and he wouldn't drop it!"

If I was that woman I'd pull out fingernail clippers and wave them over my head jumping up and down screaming "I'm about to get shot by this fucking pig!"

If I was me I'd shut my trap and let the nation slip into darkness.... or maybe not... how many bullets could he have had left?
 
D

draco

this kind of shit makes things way more dangerous to all cops, as well it should. these murderers are roaming our streets with the power of law. watch out for them, avoid them, don't speak to them. they are NOT our friends.

fucking power trippers anyway...


i saw this cool vid of a streaker getting tackled at a futbol match... when the cops tackled him they started to beat him with batons. the fans reacted by rushing the cops and beating the shit outta THEM!! HA! This is everyone's responsibility: watch the cops and when you see something like this scream bloody murder! next time it might be you in front of the gun...
 
C

CANNATOPIA

"he fired five shots from a distance of nine to 10 feet killing him. The knife was found closed." are we Sure the Cop was not Deaf, Dumb & Blind?
 
C

Classy@Home

That murderers superiors will shill and obfuscate for him - he won't need a taxpayer funded lawyer.

The Toronto chief, in defending 1 of his many rat bastard leos that beat protestors at the recent G20 summit, went on record at news conference, accusing the videographer that captured the beating of editing the footage to delete the beaten mans wrong doings, and making the officer look bad. If leo investgate leo - they can cover anything with layers of BS.

Sad - but true...
 

tanne

Member
Clear murder...this shit is so sad :(
Crazy m...fuckers like he is are the reason why everybody hates the cops. at least i do.

he'll probably not even get into serious trouble. get some of these pigs without their uniform on and they`re small little pricks.
 
G

gdawg

Wow that was sad these guys think you can kill innocent peeps on the street this ain't Iraq motherfuckers.
 
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