Lost in a SOG
GrassSnakeGenetics
Yeah if your tempted by a 90 day light loan to test em out you can get a p400 or higher possibly, use it for a grow and send it back..
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What’s the deal with these new LED lights?
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Ace Rothstein
Member
That's what I have 2 of them. Replaced a 600 HPS. I'm on my 5th flower cycle and no problems. Also handy to veg only with the switches.
200 watts each full power at the plug.
Lost in a SOG
GrassSnakeGenetics
It says its a 450w though?
Do you mean each switch reads 200w when on?
Do you mean each switch reads 200w when on?
Ibechillin
Masochist Educator
Some of the comments here sound a little dated. Re: Chinese manufacturing, are any of the LED grow lights on the market not manufactured in Asia? I think Sunlight Supply in the US produced magnetic ballasts, do they still manufacture in the states?
"Gavita ballasts are made by Lumlux Lighting in Suzhou, China as filed by Gavita with the FCC."
They are manufactured in Asia. Saying something is cheap because of where it is designed or made isn't accurate. You can hire a nitwit engineer from the US or China maybe. You can also seek out the best or top tier equipment. Pretending like the quality suffers is a fallacy a joke because there is no other option. There may be levels $50 $250 $500 and maybe those go with quality which is true anywhere you look. I would say foreign or domestic but we do not have a domestic market do we?
LEDs may be the new thing. It takes a while. If they worked so much better from the very start then it is likely you'd see more grows with them. To this day I am not seeing pounds and pounds of buds harvested from LED grows. It may happen but not as prevalent. When something is new, just guessing or generally speaking, it is more expensive with more trouble in the beginning possibly more than it's worth. But over time the pioneers who used the new stuff will help it improve. And in time it's possible that they will take over with $/watt or $/yield or quality of product. It can take a while to gain momentum because at the beginning when expense and risk are both high less people will spend money on LEDs when we don't see pounds harvested. Once they gain traction which might take years then more sales will help drive more development. Similar idea with any emergent/replacement technology. A lot of lighting is sold at a markup to make money, car stereos home televisions marijuana growing. Retailers see all of these as good opportunities to charge whatever you'll pay. In the past there was a mechanism for leverage I guess you could say. Instead of telling your customer this light came from an industrial supplier of grocery stores or warehouse lighting, you frame it in a scenario where the customer is going to yield $5k of bud every couple months. So a $100 light selling for $300-400 is no big deal, 300 for me and two pounds per harvest for the customer. Now with legalization the veil is lifted I'm not saying it's good for everyone but that's the way of the world now phony Amazon reviews. How to discern between cheap, cheap+markup, quality?
"Gavita ballasts are made by Lumlux Lighting in Suzhou, China as filed by Gavita with the FCC."
They are manufactured in Asia. Saying something is cheap because of where it is designed or made isn't accurate. You can hire a nitwit engineer from the US or China maybe. You can also seek out the best or top tier equipment. Pretending like the quality suffers is a fallacy a joke because there is no other option. There may be levels $50 $250 $500 and maybe those go with quality which is true anywhere you look. I would say foreign or domestic but we do not have a domestic market do we?
LEDs may be the new thing. It takes a while. If they worked so much better from the very start then it is likely you'd see more grows with them. To this day I am not seeing pounds and pounds of buds harvested from LED grows. It may happen but not as prevalent. When something is new, just guessing or generally speaking, it is more expensive with more trouble in the beginning possibly more than it's worth. But over time the pioneers who used the new stuff will help it improve. And in time it's possible that they will take over with $/watt or $/yield or quality of product. It can take a while to gain momentum because at the beginning when expense and risk are both high less people will spend money on LEDs when we don't see pounds harvested. Once they gain traction which might take years then more sales will help drive more development. Similar idea with any emergent/replacement technology. A lot of lighting is sold at a markup to make money, car stereos home televisions marijuana growing. Retailers see all of these as good opportunities to charge whatever you'll pay. In the past there was a mechanism for leverage I guess you could say. Instead of telling your customer this light came from an industrial supplier of grocery stores or warehouse lighting, you frame it in a scenario where the customer is going to yield $5k of bud every couple months. So a $100 light selling for $300-400 is no big deal, 300 for me and two pounds per harvest for the customer. Now with legalization the veil is lifted I'm not saying it's good for everyone but that's the way of the world now phony Amazon reviews. How to discern between cheap, cheap+markup, quality?
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normally u r correct, but when talking about chinese made 'anything' ... saying 'shitty' is pretty much rite on....
Ace Rothstein
Member
I don't believe any posted wattage. I measured with a watt meter at the plug.
Prior to the 2 Viparspectra I bought 2 really cheap (sub-$100) Chinese LEDs on Ebay advertised at 1000 watts measured 100 watts at the plug.
For the lover of Chineese technology
3 years ago I ordered a expensive flash light that was supposed to dish out 16000 lumens or some shit, little did I know it was made in China and when it arrived it was under 1000 lumens
When you have one experience with a race and then apply that experience to everyone in that race, that's the textbook definition of racism.
One time I bought a Chicken Fried Steak and a roadside diner and it sucked. Therefore, all restaurants make bad food.
Viparspectra is shit I needed 4 600watt units in my tent to get a good coverage, that is over thousand watts. 2 Units just werent enough for my 5x5 space. They grew beautiful plants though but I was consuming more.
Their coverage just really sucks.
Fluence spydrx plus is the one I will be getting next!
Their coverage just really sucks.
Fluence spydrx plus is the one I will be getting next!
THC123
Let's get down to cases
Amazon reviews:
1 star
4 star
5 star
5 star
5 star
5 star
Plus another SIX 5 star reviews.
In fact, in all 12 reviews there was only ONE negative review.
After what THC said I'm considering 're ordering it, as I got very small grow space 2 x 2 feet
Let's get down to cases
Amazon reviews:
1 star
4 star
5 star
5 star
5 star
5 star
Plus another SIX 5 star reviews.
In fact, in all 12 reviews there was only ONE negative review.
After what THC said I'm considering 're ordering it, as I got very small grow space 2 x 2 feet
Also put into account cxb is 2 times more expensive than viparspectra.
And from their product description :
1 + meter height???? Maybe for growing cabbages and tomatoes
What's the recommended height for viper spectra dudes??
Also got another thread going on the height distance.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358203
Waw I'm loving icmag, so much information
And from their product description :
1 + meter height???? Maybe for growing cabbages and tomatoes
What's the recommended height for viper spectra dudes??
Also got another thread going on the height distance.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358203
Waw I'm loving icmag, so much information
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
LOL
