What kind of drugs is Trump on.

Zeez said:

Wendull, trump admitted it. There were also meetings with top Russians about financing for a tower.

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Spaventa said:

Admitted what exactly? That he is “beholden to Russians”?? I must have missed that, do you have a link where I can catch up?

The tower financing was by top Russians eh? Where usually its broke Russians who finance these things?

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igrowone said:

this is likely in the current Mueller report being prepared
we don't know all the details, but they will be revealed
some of the prosecutions(Manafort Et al.) do reveal parts
the final revelation? i think the internet will break that day

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Spaventa said:

Admitted what exactly? That he is “beholden to Russians”?? I must have missed that, do you have a link where I can catch up?

The tower financing was by top Russians eh? Where usually its broke Russians who finance these things?

There’s nothing improper about foreign money going into the US economy and nothing illegal about.

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oldschoolnitro said:

here is some facts

Trump has done more for the taxpaying American then Oboomba ever did

If it wasn't for the 22 million illegals and the votes they bring Hillary would have gotten annihilated in the popular vote

The majority of tax paying, working class American't support Trump, you know the people who actually pay the countries tax bill

Democrats are controlled and paid for my big money just the same as any other politician... They are simply paid actors hired to get into a position of power to keep the status quo, rich on top, poor on the bottom.. its all a smoke show.. why else do they bastards retire worth hundreds of millions

The majority of working class, tax paying American's want a wall,,,don't they deserve some right as to where there tax dollars are spent.

The Elites have sold out the American worker, these same elites want to keep the ball rolling the same direction, Trump want's to reverse that which will cost the elites hundreds of billions....

Anyways chew on that.

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Zeez said:

I gave you half of it in post #191. Here's more, below is first one I clicked - maybe not the best. It's easy to find. It will all be proven out by Mueller. Look it up.

The oligarchs get state owned assets for cheep and are indebted to unlimited favors. All the money goes out the back door. The people get nothing.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trump-moscow-micheal-cohen-felix-sater-campaign

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business-2018-12

Look this stuff up then we can have a better conversation.

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igrowone said:

this is likely in the current Mueller report being prepared
we don't know all the details, but they will be revealed
some of the prosecutions(Manafort Et al.) do reveal parts
the final revelation? i think the internet will break that day

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Spaventa said:

You said trump admitted being beholden to top Russians and I’ve asked to see where that came from. I do not need further proof the vast majority news sources are vehemently anti trump since they are owned by his greatest opponents. The articles are pure speculation and media gossip. Mueller keeps his mouth shut. I’ll say that for him. Nobody knows what he has, or more likely, doesn’t have.
If Trump had done anything of consequence to now, we’d all know about it. You think they let him put Kavanaugh on the SC if they could have impeached him? That business with the Russians is ancient history and is going anywhere i suspect.I would be less surprised if they got him on tax.

I’ll counter what you said about me reading this stuff before we can discuss things properly by saying that the reverse is true in your case - we will reach agreement sooner if you don’t read that kind of unsubstantiated, partisan shit stirring.

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bigtacofarmer said:

Pretty sure Roger Waters does not want to see that scumbags face associated with his music.

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Zeez said:

So, we have a bunch of righties here for the moment.

Let's try to deal with some facts.

Of all the people in the US, less than half voted for trump.

Because of the lies, pussy grabbing, corrupt finances, convicted cabinet members, etc, trumps popularity has now dropped into the 30s.

The majority of red state trump supporters are the states across the south.

Here's the map of red blue states -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...115th_United_States_Congress_Senators.svg.png

Heres a map of states with best and worst education states by college grads.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/states2.png

Here's a map of wealthiest and poorest states.
https://www.zippia.com/research/richest-states/richest-states.gif

This is really simple to see. It's the undereducated and therefore poorer states that are the red states supporting trump. Blue states are wealthier and better educated. The blue states are paying the lions share of taxes and picking up the tab for red states that have most of the farm subsidies, military bases, and necessary social benefits for their poor and undereducated. The worst poverty in the country is in red states as well.

The irony is that these red states support people who want to give even less education and less hand outs to the poor and needy and less medical to the people who can least afford it. This only makes the situation worse. Why is it that the people getting screwed the most are the biggest supporters?

While red people are listening to fox news and repeating the propaganda being spewed with facts that are not really facts, it would really be in your best interest to try to look at both sides carefully. It's really about the few controlling the many and giving them as little as possible. All they needed to do that was own a tv network and pitch propaganda to the most vulnerable and most dependent on farm subsidies, military base money, etc.

The easy solution would be for the blue states to say fuck off, we're not paying for this monkey business any more. You figure it out because we are going to take our money and check out.

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Zeez said:

Wendull, trump admitted it. There were also meetings with top Russians about financing for a tower in Moscow.

The "No wall for You!" meeting with trump, Schumer, Pelosi, and Pence. Pence was sitting there like the puppeteer was on a coffee break. He knew that if Captain Evil is going to jail, then Mini Me is too. That would make Pelosi the next president. No offense to Verne Troyer.

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vta said:

Pretty sure Roger Waters is a piece of shit anti-semite. Next...

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Zeez said:

What you say is simply not true. Instead of presenting evidence (facts) you prefer to be a stone thrower with nothing to support your contradictory position. You ask questions implying you knew almost nothing about trump / Russia / money and I provided articles that gave everything you needed to dig deeper. It's looking like that was a waste of time because you don't want a fact based conversation.



I still trying to find something fact based in what you've written here.

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Zeez said:

So, we have a bunch of righties here for the moment.

Let's try to deal with some facts.

Of all the people in the US, less than half voted for trump.

Because of the lies, pussy grabbing, corrupt finances, convicted cabinet members, etc, trumps popularity has now dropped into the 30s.

The majority of red state trump supporters are the states across the south.

Here's the map of red blue states -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...115th_United_States_Congress_Senators.svg.png

Heres a map of states with best and worst education states by college grads.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/states2.png

Here's a map of wealthiest and poorest states.
https://www.zippia.com/research/richest-states/richest-states.gif

This is really simple to see. It's the undereducated and therefore poorer states that are the red states supporting trump. Blue states are wealthier and better educated. The blue states are paying the lions share of taxes and picking up the tab for red states that have most of the farm subsidies, military bases, and necessary social benefits for their poor and undereducated. The worst poverty in the country is in red states as well.

The irony is that these red states support people who want to give even less education and less hand outs to the poor and needy and less medical to the people who can least afford it. This only makes the situation worse. Why is it that the people getting screwed the most are the biggest supporters?

While red people are listening to fox news and repeating the propaganda being spewed with facts that are not really facts, it would really be in your best interest to try to look at both sides carefully. It's really about the few controlling the many and giving them as little as possible. All they needed to do that was own a tv network and pitch propaganda to the most vulnerable and most dependent on farm subsidies, military base money, etc.

The easy solution would be for the blue states to say fuck off, we're not paying for this monkey business any more. You figure it out because we are going to take our money and check out.

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Badfishy1 said:

Gyps where is the ‘rightie’ outrage?

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