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How do the 90s and early 2000s elites stack up to today’s hype strains?

JetLife175

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Was having this conversation with a close friend and wanted some more opinions.

Is there anything out there that surpasses the Chems, OGs, Sours and other highly regarded cuttings of the 90s and early 2000s out these days? I’m quite aware most of the popular varieties are descendants of previously mentioned cuttings but have they really been improved upon? The only 3 significant game changing strains I can think of since that era is Cookies, StarDawg, and Glue. Maybe throw in Alien Tech as well. Any others? What’s your opinion?
 

chris_martinx

New member
Woah, what are all these? I jumped into the weed bandwagon pretty late and I guess it's time to do some research about the legendary strains.
 

theJointedOne

Active member
Veteran
This might get scoffed at but blue dream clone was game changing, from a growers perspective.

Stuff nowadays is so much short term hype, and when you add the number of darn cuttings that are being passed around grows more and more by the month..stuff just doesnt have the ability to impact the market like back in the day...

And is it me or is potency not a factor much anymore, just dull highs..I like the pure og's for the high, northern lights for the high, white widow had a nice high, super silver haze...you get the idea..nowadays "dolato espresso double rainbow juice power grape slurpee candy bar" is the new hype..its a poly poly poly poly squared hybrid
 

Mikell

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I'd smoke sweet skunk over any of this hype garbage starting with Kizookies famalam tripe and right on into todays bullshit Punchsido malarkey.
 

insomniac_AU

Active member
I've wondered this myself. I smoked some amazing cannabis in the mid 90s. That's my memory anyway. My feeling is it would give most things today a run for it's money. Then again I might have been less tolerant then and remembering through rose coloured glasses. :dunno:
 

Mate Dave

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New stuff is bred by folks with baseborn genetics. lucky to find a good phenotype let alone no variance on the genotype. The high THC stuff bred back in the day was the best it got.
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
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I dunno I loved the old Chem, OG, Sour...especially the OG(SFV). Even the Blueberrys late 90s. They got these big THC% readings but these strains from 15yrs or so ago were good. I'm not saying anything like the lime green skunk from the late 80s and early 90s. I guess you can state a claim for a lot of these hyped strains
 
I’m a huge fan of OGs and Chems. IMO, they’re the best out there and has been for a very long time. Personally though, I think a lot of 90s weed is overrated and people have rose colored glasses when they talk about it. Skunk, widow, Bubblegum, etc, I had a lot of the big time 90s strains and they were good. But they wouldn’t blow today’s stuff out of the water or anything. People like to talk about how much better movies/tv/sports used to be back in their day, well they like to do the same with weed. Except for Chem and OG, those are truly exceptional.

Of the newer stuff, really only one thing comes close, and that’s cookies. It took a while, but I have to admit that GSC is the real deal. It smells and tastes great and has an amazing high. It’s the only thing made in the last 20 years that can stack up with OG or Chem. Cross them together, and it’s particularly amazing.
 

topheavy420

Member
So much is put into looks, bag a peal and right now specific terps (strawberry, banna, ect) that potency is a second thought...which is all great and everything...
Good thing there is a resurgence of older more potency orientated varieties going on.

More of us need to be preservation oriented saving these away in our fridges
 
90's & Early 2000's bud was all about bag appeal and memorable high. Nowadays hype strains are all about bag appeal & taste/aroma.

Hate to sound overly nostalgic, but IMO old school weed scene was way better. All the heavy hitters nowdays are too closely related, and the effects too similar. 90's/ Early 2K elites were more unique, and the effects more varied. There's no doubt that nowadays strains are bred more for flavor, and they taste good but I smoke for the effects, not the flavors.
 

el gordo

Active member
people tend to have a very narrow vision of the cannabis, saying something is the best is to be a little ignorant of what's out there, cookies are good, og's are good, 90 dutch seeds were good (most of the nowadays usa clones are clearly phenos or crosses of plants that were found in this genepool),but to me is the same level of potency/quality as manipuri ganja i grew a couple of years ago, a good nd potent african, or an old school mexican...quality ganja is always the same, and always has been, every generation tends to think that they invented the wheel and are the pinacle of evolution, but this is not the reality, the reality is that it's been very potent and fine ganja for thousands of years in asia, 90s dutch weed was no better than the best mexicans, afghans, punto rojo, or the euphoric good mexican or nepalese plants, but not worse too, just different remixes of the same old good quality cannabis that humans have been breeding and using for generations
 

Cvh

Well-known member
Supermod
I can only speak of what was going around back then in the EU.
But up until now I haven't found anything that could beat the orginal cuts of White Widow and Amnesia Haze.
 

insomniac_AU

Active member
Makes me think that the relentless pursuit of THC levels hasn't been for the better. Sure it's easier to market strains if you have a higher number than your competitor but that's because buyers don't understand the whole picture.
I don't know the science behind it either but it seems to me the high we get is about everything working together. Terpenes and other cannabinoids and THC. I'm sure I've smoked strains in the 15% THC range that have given me a better high than some 25%+ strains.
 

Lost in a SOG

GrassSnakeGenetics
The new polyhybrid stuff does seem weak,, poor vigour,, lack of selection and real breeding ability, just kids crossing anything and everything just to make some dumb name up like purple melon skittles or something.. No substance just here today gone tomorrow hype..
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
That's true the old White Widow with the orange faint/ skunky woody pheno is hard to beat. Some of the SSH and other Haze. But there was some lime green rks that was crazy in the late 80s. It was in the Ohio Valley region. I'm not sure the lineage or name. It's hard to say one thing is the best but I've been partial to the OG(SFV) original. I've just liked it a lot. But the WW and many other strains I loved also
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Yes I do agree with the dumb names. I don't wanna single out guys but some of this dumb/nasty/perverted names I've seen is just ridiculous. I mean it's getting to were I'd be embarrassed to tell somebody the names some of these guys are calling there strains. I was thinking the other day ....damn that's what you call your work/strain. I dunno each to his own I guess
 

insomniac_AU

Active member
Yes I do agree with the dumb names. I don't wanna single out guys but some of this dumb/nasty/perverted names I've seen is just ridiculous. I mean it's getting to were I'd be embarrassed to tell somebody the names some of these guys are calling there strains. I was thinking the other day ....damn that's what you call your work/strain. I dunno each to his own I guess
I don't like when people select names that associate cannabis with other drugs pharmaceutical or not. Things like Green Crack and Oxy Cotton. The further we can distance ourselves from that madness the better IMO.
 

Lost in a SOG

GrassSnakeGenetics
Green crack did used to annoy me. Its a crap smoke anyway which is why it failed to get much popularity.

My last run was the DNA Skywalker x ingemars WW.. I liked it a lot except that one of my two ladies was a tangie x that snuck in the pack of seeds, was a bit annoyed at dna for that.. I still cant get anything as good as the widow i used to buy in the early 2000s though.. The taste was hashy skunky and may not have had tropical fruit terps but it put you on your ass with a BIG grin for at least an hour, super talkative as well.. Personally I want bang for buck, I dont aim to smoke flavourful daytime weed overall..

The other thing that annoys me is the fancy name kush game. Gimme SFV and I'm done pretty much, I dont need it crossed with LA con or whatever and given a fancy name its so pointless.. Think I'd like to see a widow SFV cross now lol

I dont understand or agree with these perverted porn reference names either, what's the point?.. It's capitalism I guess, gotta get eyes on the brand rather than sell the thing through quality and/or hard work.
 

insomniac_AU

Active member
That's true the old White Widow with the orange faint/ skunky woody pheno is hard to beat.

I still cant get anything as good as the widow i used to buy in the early 2000s though.. The taste was hashy skunky and may not have had tropical fruit terps but it put you on your ass with a BIG grin for at least an hour, super talkative as well.. Personally I want bang for buck, I dont aim to smoke flavourful daytime weed overall..

I'm glad you guys said that. That's my recollection as well. I've smoked a lot of different weed over the years but only a handful of strains are memorable. 90s WW is one of them.
 
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