Fulvic Acid

different · Mar 27, 2018

BioAg Ful-Power is 8% fulvic acid, Mr. Fulvic is 2%.

Avenger · Mar 27, 2018

oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=33143

0.6% fulvic by the newly approved test method.

different · Mar 27, 2018

Avenger said:
0.6% fulvic by the newly approved test method.

Only 49 states left to get on board!

redheadfreakin · Mar 27, 2018

The lowest quality fulvic acid is sold in dry/powder form. Avoid.

redheadfreakin · Mar 27, 2018

different said:
Only 49 states left to get on board!

I wish.
The Humic Product Trade Association has a long way to go.

different · Mar 27, 2018

redheadfreakin said:
I wish!
The Humic Product Trade Association has a long way to go.

I hope it happens ASAP!

different · Mar 27, 2018

redheadfreakin said:
The lowest quality fulvic acid is sold in dry/powder form. Avoid.

Ferti-Organic makes a fulvic powder with 112ppm of Arsenic.
OMRI listed organic!

BillFarthing · Mar 28, 2018

different said:
BioAg Ful-Power is 8% fulvic acid, Mr. Fulvic is 2%.

Source?

different · Mar 28, 2018

BillFarthing said:
Source?

It is on the Mr. Fulvic label, as well as the website.
2.2% to be exact.
Also Bioag.com has some good info.

Only Ornamental · Mar 28, 2018

farmerlion said:
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This is organic growing at it's finest.
Please stop using chemicals to grow your cannabis. Your hurting yourself and others by using them. If you need more production, plant one more seed. Peace

That's the American talking. Sorry, but you guys really never get the point about organic farming or organic labels.
Using leonardite is organic growing at its worst and it's growing cannabis in chemicals! Are you hurting yourself and others by using it? I don't know but what I do know is the following:
Using non-renewable fossil material isn't organic in any way. That's like using shredded tyres as organic soilless medium because recycling is good for nature and hence it's OMRI, LoL!
Honestly, it's at best a lame excuse for environment destroying near surface mining of lignite aka brown coal and the main use thereof: highly pollutive electricity generation! Nothing renewable and nothing organic or environment friendly about that! Whoever's running OMRI is a complete jerk.

Organic farming is not about using nature derived stuff: See, lignite is some sort of pseudo-mineralised coal product mined exactly like those bad inorganic mineral fertilisers you curse so much about. Leonardite can also be seen as a young form of petroleum. Now tell me, what's organic about coal, tar, and mineral oil, eh? Shredded tyres on the other hand are at least in good parts made from renewable, plant-derived natural rubber

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Organic farming and organic products are about caring for the environment. If you want to do something for mother nature, use fulvic acid derived from the wood industry. That's renewable, and that's probably worth an organic label.

BillFarthing · Apr 7, 2018

Only Ornamental said:
If you want to do something for mother nature, use fulvic acid derived from the wood industry. That's renewable, and that's probably worth an organic label.

I've read quite a bit about fulvic acid. I didn't know that it could be derived from wood. Is it a byproduct of the pulping process?

I am not affiliated with Mr. Fulvic, but they get their fulvic from a shallow shale deposit without excavators or blasting. After they get the water soluble fulvic, they put the source material back with minimal disruption to the ground. I really like that company.

brown_thumb · Apr 8, 2018

I switched to BioAg.

Only Ornamental · Apr 8, 2018

BillFarthing said:
Is it a byproduct of the pulping process?

Correct. But don't ask me for a brand name...

brown_thumb · Apr 8, 2018

I changed brands already but am searching for highest quality products made as greenly as possible. If anyone knows brand names and their benefits, I for one, am very interested.

beta · Apr 8, 2018

Does anyone know the source of Kelp4Less' powdered fulvic?

BillFarthing · Apr 8, 2018

Only Ornamental said:
Correct. But don't ask me for a brand name...

According to:
https://www.chinalignin.com/application/used-in-agriculture/

Lignin is broken down into lignosulfates in the paper pulping process. They can act as a surfactant or complexor. It can also be broken down into lignohumate. Different forms can chelate potassium and ammonium. I assume by isolating the short chain humates that fulvic acid could be the end result. Interesting stuff!

different · Apr 8, 2018

beta said:
Does anyone know the source of Kelp4Less' powdered fulvic?

For the most part, Kelp4Less uses the cheapest, lowest quality products available.
Potassium in a fulvic product = poor manufacturing process.

Only Ornamental · Apr 9, 2018

different said:
...Potassium in a fulvic product = poor manufacturing process.

How so? Could you elaborate?

different · Apr 9, 2018

The process uses heat and potassium hydroxide (among other salts/agents) for extraction.
It destroys the bioactivity of the fulvic acid and you are left with salts in your product.
Cold water extraction methods retain the bioactivity of the fulvic acid, and your product is clean.
The cheap stuff is leftovers from destructive mining practices.

beta · Apr 9, 2018

different said:
For the most part, Kelp4Less uses the cheapest, lowest quality products available.
Potassium in a fulvic product = poor manufacturing process.

How do you know this?

I didn't even know fulvic had to be 'bioactive' - Isn't its mode of action chelation?

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