IP Address Monitoring

Taliz said:

Does anybody worry about authorities monitoring IP Addresses that post this website.

When I told a friend in the ISP industry i had registered at ICmag I got a verbal warning about posting anything that may incriminate me, and that all ip addresses that post sites like these may be monitored.

It doesn’t particularly worry me as I only have a couple of plants for personal use, and here in the UK you just get equip confiscated and a slap on the wrist.
However, it would be nice to know how secure these forums are..

ANY INFO MUCH APPRICIATED...

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Taliz said:

Does anybody worry about authorities monitoring IP Addresses that post this website.

When I told a friend in the ISP industry i had registered at ICmag I got a verbal warning about posting anything that may incriminate me, and that all ip addresses that post sites like these may be monitored.

It doesn’t particularly worry me as I only have a couple of plants for personal use, and here in the UK you just get equip confiscated and a slap on the wrist.
However, it would be nice to know how secure these forums are..

ANY INFO MUCH APPRICIATED...

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Taliz said:

Does anybody worry about authorities monitoring IP Addresses that post this website.

When I told a friend in the ISP industry i had registered at ICmag I got a verbal warning about posting anything that may incriminate me, and that all ip addresses that post sites like these may be monitored.

It doesn’t particularly worry me as I only have a couple of plants for personal use, and here in the UK you just get equip confiscated and a slap on the wrist.
However, it would be nice to know how secure these forums are..

ANY INFO MUCH APPRICIATED...

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OLPWebmaster said:

What you need to doi to solve "All Your Problems" is to first install the Browser "Firefox" then Install "TOR" which will bounce your IP address that wil show up on ANYONE"S LOGS all around this HUGE World of ours, & Show THEIR IP ADDRESS & NOT Your Real IP Address

& Best Of All It's Is Completely FREE!

All the directions & download links that you will need are post on my
MAXIMUM SECURITY SECTION! Free Apps, Learn How To Protect Your ID, & Your Real IP- Computer While Online
http://www.onlinepot.org/security/SecurityMainStartPage.htm

Start First With Installing The "FireFox Browser FIRST! The Link for it is posted, The Go Onto the "TOR" "PRIVOXY" Set ups.

& Then you will NEVER use your old IE Browser again

Stay Well & Stay SAFE! With "TOR"
Chris/OLP

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Chakal said:

Good thread.

So if this webpage is monitored, can someone monitor my IP?

Please someone put up some more info on this.

Existenzophile: I don't have LINUX, any other options?


Peace

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the lorax said:

proxies are just an extra subpoena if they actually decided they wanted you.

while proxies are... "nice"... instead, perhaps it should be preached that those with anything to be concerned about should not post from the location that any activity that may be deemed as "questionable" by various 3 letter acronym groups occurs at.

ie, if one wanted to be truly anonymous, the closest possibility would probably be to vary the locations from which they access info/post, and THEN use a proxy.

but truthfully, I believe the answer is this: either dont participate in any actions that may or may not be legal in your circumstance, OR, keep it to yourself and don't post about it.

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the lorax said:

"Why not venture out on a limb? That's where the fruit is." -Mark Twain




regarding tor, I find it hard to believe that they couldnt sort thru the various servers that the pedophiles used and find the guy.. I dunno.. another thing is, cant always beleive everything you read, and remember, LEO often will not always share the full/truthful details publicly via news media, and sometimes might go so far as to let misinformation slip now I'm NOT saying thats the case with the TOR incident, as frankly WE don't know.. but just remember, the very fact that we don't truly, definitevely know, is also the same defense that says its totally possible that they are more capable w/ proxy tracing than they let on.

just something to ponder

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Chakal said:

Existenzophile:

More info on Promis please...

Peace

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Created in the 1970s by former National Security Agency (NSA) programmer and engineer Bill Hamilton, now President of Washington, D.C.'s Inslaw Corporation, PROMIS (Prosecutor's Management Information System) crossed a threshold in the evolution of computer programming. Working from either huge mainframe computer systems or smaller networks powered by the progenitors of today's PCs, PROMIS, from its first "test drive" a quarter century ago, was able to do one thing that no other program had ever been able to do. It was able to simultaneously read and integrate any number of different computer programs or data bases simultaneously, regardless of the language in which the original programs had been written or the operating system or platforms on which that data base was then currently installed.

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PROMIS and its evolutions were the lynchpin of every new military, scientific and financial advance being pursued by the US government and corporate sector. PROMIS progeny have become the "operating system" underlying data management and data mining for every major technology under development in all arenas of technological advance from medicine, to finance, to surveillance, to battlefield Command, Control and Communications or C3.

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By definition, PROMIS progeny are the backbone of a current DoD plan to develop a "Godlike" view of all human (or battlefield) activity from space. They are also inherently a part of the data processing being envisioned for advanced space weapons requiring machines to think as they share data in virtual real time.

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[At the heart of our story is a program (we'll call it Ptech, after the company that produced it) that combines artificial intelligence, datamining, and "interoperability," the capacity for one program to read, operate, and modify the source codes of other programs. The computational power of the Ptech evolution of PROMIS represents a daunting new surveillance-and-intervention capability. Ptech is the functional equivalent of Total Information Awareness.
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It combines datamining, artificial intelligence, and "interoperability," the capacity for one program to read, operate, and modify the source codes of other programs. Datamining is a technique for detecting and extracting meaningful patterns hidden within vast quantities of apparently meaningless data. Applications include policing and case management (where PROMIS -- Prosecutor's Management Information System began), aviation (Mitre), banking and risk management (JP Morgan), enterprise architecture and knowledge management (Popkin), the gathering and sifting of political and industrial intelligence information (FBI, RCMP, et al.), and a wide range of military applications (NORAD, Navy, etc.).

Programs based on datamining are powerful analytical tools; finding meaningful patterns in an ocean of information is very useful. But when such a tool is driven by a high-caliber artificial intelligence core, its power gets spooky. The datamining capability becomes a smart search tool of the AI program, and the system begins to learn.

In recent decades, great strides have been made by the mutually fertile disciplines of mathematics, computer science, and neuroscience. Among the results has been a new discipline called cognitive neuroscience, which constitutes a powerful new understanding of the way the human brain works (see Churchland, Gazzaniga, etc.) While this has illuminated some very fundamental and grand issues of philosophy, it also has applications so practical that they have reshaped our world. "Neural Network" programming is modeled on the computational techniques used by the human brain - an electrochemical computer that uses neurons instead of semiconductors; the firing or non-firing of neurons instead of ones and zeros.

With neural networking, software has become much smarter than it had been. Now it can perform multiple, related operations at the same time through parallel processing; now it can learn from setbacks, and use genetic algorithms to evolve its way out of limitations. Now it can respond to more kinds of data from the electronic environment, including "fuzzy" values that don't come in discreet numerical packages. This kind of computational power supports an inference engine that can digest the mined data into results that are not only descriptive of the system's present state but predictive for imminent and, to some degree, even middle-term outcomes. That's why the same family of programs that does enterprise architecture, which is descriptive (and prescriptive if you take its descriptions as a mandate for cutting costs by firing people - "process management"), comes to include risk management software, which is predictive of the future. It extrapolates from current trends in a more than quantitative way.

Conventional electronic surveillance finds patterns in the data of other instruments; Ptech's Framework can exploit the patterns it detects and extrapolate future probabilities. Then it can integrate itself with the computers from which it's getting the information and intervene in their functioning. The result is a tool for surveillance and intervention. The program can identify suspect streams of cash in a banking network and allow a bank officer to freeze the suspect assets. Of course, a user could direct the same program to prevent detection. It can discover salient anomalies in a person's movements through a city and either flag those anomalies for further scrutiny, or erase them from the record. And it can find errant flights in an air traffic map and initiate an intercept response. Or not.

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Existenzophile said:

Except in the case of Tor. Tor servers keep no record, and no data on anyone tor server can be traced back to any one client, they can only be traced to other Tor Servers. So LEO can Subpoena to their hearts content and end up with dick. There was a case earlier this year, where the German Authorities seized several Tor servers that had been connected with Child Pornography. The computers they seized yielded them NO Information that led to the prosecution of those responsible for the Child Porn. The first server they seized was an Exit node, the server who's IP address was identified as the computer send the request for said illegal material. The information the were able to obtain could only lead them to the next server in the chain which concurrently contained no information about the person who was actually requesting the information.

And yes, surfing from your Grow is not a good idea. But unless you live in the middle of nowhere, you have the option of piggybacking off someone else's wireless network. In my area I have a wide variety to choose from
But even that won't keep you anonymous. PROMIS derivative software can watch just your surfing habits (the sites you visit, what you search for, when you surf, how long you stay on a site...)for a very short amount of time and get a positive ID on you.

And your last statement is the equivalent of saying "If you don't want to be eaten by Bears, stay out of the Woods." Sound advice... but the woods are definitely worth the risk

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