I agree you can not have it both ways!!
Originally Posted by monsoon
I think you are spot on with your licensing assumptions here, shaggy.
As long as there's big money to be made in cannabis, big money will see a way to get their slice of the pie...and more. As long as there is big money to be made, corrupt people, both little and big will chameleon into whatever situation is needed to get their slice of the pie. We've seen it play out in person here ala med pot...and now via rec pot as well.
Where your 'logic" breaks down here for me is the same place it broke down for Armedoldhippy and that is when you fail to separate the personal from the commercial and see that they are 2 completely different things here.
Do you really think that just because they legalized retail sales for licensed entities that all of the folks cultivating gardens here who have long-standing connections or customers would simply direct them all to "legal sales"? Without a doubt, legal pot has put a damper on illegal profits here (more pot = less sales/lower prices/etc), but in no way, shape, or form has it ended "the Black market" here. Far from it.
The people I know who knew people before both 20 and 64 still have the same basic set up as before (although with less fear) and the people who never smoked/never had any connections/were never into weed before they were told it was OK pay the Gov't to smoke it and shop at the retail outlets. (and pay the standard prices from 10 years ago + 30% tax)
IMO, only those folks who haven't been paying attention/who have no real understanding of how business truly works could ever believe that weed/weed legalization would >somehow< be a different creature and would remain a cottage industry with HUGE profits, no liability, and no limitations...or that when they open the licensing up for all residents of the State of ___________...cops and judges and all the other pussies who had no involvement in weed will come out of the woodwork en masse' in support of filling their own wallets with cash.
In the end none of it matters if you take the $$$ out of the equation and grow only for personal stash. Sadly, many folks want it BOTH ways...no laws, no limits/no penalties/no regulation/no licensing/open sales AND the same big money profits they receive for their wares now in an illegal market...which if we're looking for "logic"...uuuhhhummm....is seemingly nowhere to be found. (have you seen/think such a place will ever exist...and what do you think pot would be WORTH there if it were to exist?)
I have dreams of it coming true everyday!(dreams
I think if the market was flooded.
Everybody that wants to grow, can grow, as much as they want.
That would make up for those who don't want to grow!
As far as price goes, if the market is completely full and quality is from a-z then it would be priced accordingly.
I think it is possible to see $100 oz.'s
of top shelf if it growing in every yard across the USA. (still dreaming here right)
I would like to see the farmers market scene take off!
Trade no cash needed.
A lil' blueberry for some strawberry ya know....just look around and get what you like.
If you bring crap you go home with the same crap or trade for different crap..... or maybe if some one is kind enough they will take a bunch of your crap and exchange it for a little bit-o-dank....no cash!
This would not be hard at all if big biz did not see $$$$$$$$$$$
What do ya think man?
Am I really asking for a pony here?...LOL(Jhhnn knows)