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preservative seeds - how you do it ?
- Thread starter ezozo
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Hey Zozo! -- 
I know frig storage has been mentioned, and seems most popular... But probably any cool, dry, dark place will also do if you cannot use a frig.
My "first grow" not too long ago was from bagseed, which I know some of which must've been over 5 years old! They had been in plastic film canisters in a small bedroom safe. I had better than 90% germ rate from those that I started...
-BuzzBob
I know frig storage has been mentioned, and seems most popular... But probably any cool, dry, dark place will also do if you cannot use a frig.
My "first grow" not too long ago was from bagseed, which I know some of which must've been over 5 years old! They had been in plastic film canisters in a small bedroom safe. I had better than 90% germ rate from those that I started...
-BuzzBob
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guest123
some rice in those containers with the seed is good , and keep em in the fridge , they always seem to strike quicker coming from the fridge i find , and keep fresh ...
ezozo
Member
Thanks guy
I will tell you what I am doing till now.
(now I will have much bigher amounts
)
I have a box like the one that I have for fishing
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and in the box I have small boxes the one you put you pills for each day of the week. with name and date.
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and I put there some sillica gell balls (when they turn pink I replace them to blue ones)
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and all that big box have a nice place in the back of the fridge (I don'y freez them)
do you think it will be good for long term ?
- from what I hear here it's yes -
thanks
zozo
I will tell you what I am doing till now.
(now I will have much bigher amounts
)I have a box like the one that I have for fishing
Click for Larger Image
and in the box I have small boxes the one you put you pills for each day of the week. with name and date.
Click for Larger Image
and I put there some sillica gell balls (when they turn pink I replace them to blue ones)
Click for Larger Image
and all that big box have a nice place in the back of the fridge (I don'y freez them)
do you think it will be good for long term ?
- from what I hear here it's yes -
thanks
zozo
G
guest123
yes they are still good after being frozen ....
G
Guest
I use silca gel packs and the little barrels I find in pill bottles. I leave thyem at room temp. I have never had a problem with germination rates. Except In the mid 90's when I ordered from that fucker Emery.Then germ rates of seeds I got averaged 50%. Fuck that bastard I am done venting.
I generally store mine in the fridge in zip-locks and have germed seeds that are several years old.
The good news is that Cannabis seeds are extremely hardy.If you look at the plants normal lifecycle outdoors,the seeded female dies at the end of the fall and over the course of the winter the seeds are exposed to sunlight,rain and some times freezing or extremely fluxuating temperatures.After all that abuse they still germ and continue to propagate themselves with no human intervention.
I don't use rice or silica gel.I've given some thought to those processes and I'm not convinced it is necessary.
A completely dry seed will not germanate,it will not sink in a glass of water because it is non-viable.
Cannabis seed must retain some moisture to remain viable.If you cut a seed in half and look inside you'll find it looks just like the meat of a nut,not dry but not wet either.I believe that most nuts contain about 5% moisture,my guess is that cannabis seeds probably contain about the same.
I think maybe the desiccant thing is carried over from pollen storage where moisture is will destroy the pollen.
JLP
The good news is that Cannabis seeds are extremely hardy.If you look at the plants normal lifecycle outdoors,the seeded female dies at the end of the fall and over the course of the winter the seeds are exposed to sunlight,rain and some times freezing or extremely fluxuating temperatures.After all that abuse they still germ and continue to propagate themselves with no human intervention.
I don't use rice or silica gel.I've given some thought to those processes and I'm not convinced it is necessary.
A completely dry seed will not germanate,it will not sink in a glass of water because it is non-viable.
Cannabis seed must retain some moisture to remain viable.If you cut a seed in half and look inside you'll find it looks just like the meat of a nut,not dry but not wet either.I believe that most nuts contain about 5% moisture,my guess is that cannabis seeds probably contain about the same.
I think maybe the desiccant thing is carried over from pollen storage where moisture is will destroy the pollen.
JLP
I agree with Wally but worry about too much desicant
I agree with Wally but worry about too much desicant
I might place 3-5 grains of rice in a 155 seed pack but what if you did too much desicant in with the seed container. Might it draw the moisure out of the seeds themselves? Just a worry I have wondered about.
When frozen they last but remember that they will probably crack upon thawing making them best kept frozen until planting or germination. I find refrigeration and dark makes them last plenty long for most people. BOG
I agree with Wally but worry about too much desicant
I might place 3-5 grains of rice in a 155 seed pack but what if you did too much desicant in with the seed container. Might it draw the moisure out of the seeds themselves? Just a worry I have wondered about.
When frozen they last but remember that they will probably crack upon thawing making them best kept frozen until planting or germination. I find refrigeration and dark makes them last plenty long for most people. BOG
Well i started a method of seed storage about a year ago....based on a few things i have read. What i have read:
Seeds must be stored in a way which maintains their viability for long periods. Seeds left at ambient temperatures and relative humidities will lose their viability quickly whilst seeds stored in conditions of low moisture content and temperature will retain their viability for longer periods. Accessions held in a genebank are valuable and represent plants which are no longer available or which are endangered in their natural environment. These seeds must be conserved in the genebank for use in plant breeding in the future. As soon as the seed has matured on the plant the slow process of deterioration begins. Therefore the sooner that seeds are placed into store the better. In practical terms this means that seeds collected in the field should be quickly returned to genebanks, processed and placed into store as soon as the cleaning, drying and packaging processes are complete. he conditions which prolong viability during storage have been well defined for seeds which are tolerant of desiccation. Storage conditions have been recommended by the IBPGR Advisory Committee on Seed Storage. For base collections, seeds of between 3-7 % moisture content should be stored in sealed containers. Sub-zero temperatures are acceptable, but -18 °C or less is preferred. For active collections sealed storage of seeds dried to 7% moisture content or less is recommended at temperatures of less than 15 °C. Unsealed storage is not encouraged. In particular, it is not recommended in tropical areas.
i also read that moisture content plays a key role in viability of seeds. The more the moisture content of the seed the quicker it degrades. because too much moisture can cause cell division and rupturing of cell walls, thus causing the seed to become non viable.
i live in a very tropical area with very high humidity. what i decided to do was put seeds in a small plastic bottle, to label them and keep seeds seperated. I poke about 4 holes in the top of the bottle to allow moisture to escape and not be trapped inside. i place the bottles in a mason jar which has a thermometer to monitor temp and humidity. I place dessicant on top of the bottles. put the lid on and use a pump-n-seal to vacuum seal it (mainly to get out moisture and too keep moisture from getting in and quickly saturating the dessicant)
This is just my method, take it for what it's worth.
Seeds must be stored in a way which maintains their viability for long periods. Seeds left at ambient temperatures and relative humidities will lose their viability quickly whilst seeds stored in conditions of low moisture content and temperature will retain their viability for longer periods. Accessions held in a genebank are valuable and represent plants which are no longer available or which are endangered in their natural environment. These seeds must be conserved in the genebank for use in plant breeding in the future. As soon as the seed has matured on the plant the slow process of deterioration begins. Therefore the sooner that seeds are placed into store the better. In practical terms this means that seeds collected in the field should be quickly returned to genebanks, processed and placed into store as soon as the cleaning, drying and packaging processes are complete. he conditions which prolong viability during storage have been well defined for seeds which are tolerant of desiccation. Storage conditions have been recommended by the IBPGR Advisory Committee on Seed Storage. For base collections, seeds of between 3-7 % moisture content should be stored in sealed containers. Sub-zero temperatures are acceptable, but -18 °C or less is preferred. For active collections sealed storage of seeds dried to 7% moisture content or less is recommended at temperatures of less than 15 °C. Unsealed storage is not encouraged. In particular, it is not recommended in tropical areas.
i also read that moisture content plays a key role in viability of seeds. The more the moisture content of the seed the quicker it degrades. because too much moisture can cause cell division and rupturing of cell walls, thus causing the seed to become non viable.
i live in a very tropical area with very high humidity. what i decided to do was put seeds in a small plastic bottle, to label them and keep seeds seperated. I poke about 4 holes in the top of the bottle to allow moisture to escape and not be trapped inside. i place the bottles in a mason jar which has a thermometer to monitor temp and humidity. I place dessicant on top of the bottles. put the lid on and use a pump-n-seal to vacuum seal it (mainly to get out moisture and too keep moisture from getting in and quickly saturating the dessicant)
This is just my method, take it for what it's worth.
