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Old 07-30-2020, 11:23 PM #1
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Super blueberry haze Flash seeds

A bit puzzled and slightly dissapointed in this one.

It is tall, I'll give it that, but there is no bud formation!
It also seems heavily attacked by something.
Planted very close to other autos doing fine.
What are the traits or lineage you guys can see in this cultivar from Flash?
Supposef to be Ssh, blueberry and ruderalis according to breeder.
Six or seven weeks from seed on photo.

High leaf to calyx ratio, I'd say..





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Thanks darkstorm.
My third plant has healthier leaves.
Still no more than a few calyces on this one too.

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It's a "super auto" (semi auto), hence it takes longer for bud formation. Larger plant doesn't mean more potent.

Spray combo dish detergent chili sauce water on plants. Insects hate that! Good luck.
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Thanks Aridbud, I'll try the spray mixture.
I was hoping Super blueberry haze was a true auto. Breeder description doesn't specify that it’s a super auto like annapurna, chaze muay thai etc, even though it has super in the name.. Specifies that it grows to 80-130 cm tall.
Super autos probably won't do well in my climate at 60N, as they will take too long, is my guess.
Aren't all flash super autos just semi auto, like you said? Photo crossed once with an auto, or worked to auto and then backcrossed to photo? Thus maybe reducing flower time, but still heterozugous for auto gene, and therefore photoperiod in reality? Probably too slow for my climate, this one.
Still I will let it go for as long as possible. Even pollinating it with a smaller male growing next to it, so I get new regular seeds to work further.

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Hi teide,

i tried flash superautos in the past and must say they all need a lot of time. Superauto means basically a much longer veg and stretch stage during it they usually grow very high. I guess it will be same with yours, expect start of bud formation around two months after sprouting, then add two and half months for flowering. Mine all needed around 4 or more months total if planted in the ground. Root restriction helps to keep them lower and faster i guess.
I tried chaze, super cali haze, copacabana and muaythai, all were over two meter tall, muay thai almost three. So if you want to keep them lower, top them soon, the branches will overgrow everything anyway

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Thanks Aridbud, I'll try the spray mixture.
I was hoping Super blueberry haze was a true auto. Breeder description doesn't specify that it’s a super auto like annapurna, chaze muay thai etc, even though it has super in the name.. Specifies that it grows to 80-130 cm tall.
Super autos probably won't do well in my climate at 60N, as they will take too long, is my guess.
Aren't all flash super autos just semi auto, like you said? Photo crossed once with an auto, or worked to auto and then backcrossed to auto? Thus maybe reducing flower time, but still heterozugous for auto gene, and therefore photoperiod in reality? Probably too slow for my climate, this one.
Still I will let it go for as long as possible. Even pollinating it with a smaller male growing next to it, so I get new regular seeds to work further.
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No, some are super autos, as in your case. They take generally 90 - 110+ days to finish.

I can't speak for Flash/Short Stuff's breeding. Even with a super auto they are generally crossed with quick finishing photoperiod. We cross (hybridize) then back cross to lock in recessive ruderalis.

Try LST.
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Darkstorm, arid and koondense, you are all correct. It is a super auto taking its time.
Still growing in height, and luckily more bud sites are developing now, just as you said.



I was glad to see pistils on side branches and top shoot,
not only calyces on the main stem.

They now reach up to my chest level, guess that's more
or less their max height, as flowering now truly has commenced.
Luckily I tried this one in stead of muay thai, koondense.
No way it will ripen in time before end of season, but I
hope it will give me seeds in time. Five weeks for seeds is pushing it.
Two months more for ripe buds is unfortunately impossible.
Next season I will start earlier!

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Still looks pretty good, sad to hear she won't finish.

If i was to grow superautos again, would sprout in early to mid april, transplant first week of may in soil(ground, no pot), sprout another in late april and transplant her mid may into a 30-50l pot. Watch them closely and see the different behaviour.
My SuperCaliHazes as Chaze and Copacabana, all went over 2m tall, MuayThai was a monster. I also seen a Chaze in a pot reach 1,5m and make around half kilo of buds, in a backyard not guerrilla.
There is great potential with superautos but they will make it only when everything is right.

I was thinking of crossing a superauto with a normal auto, to get something in between... never tried it so far, got so many other plans on my mind lately.

Wish you a warm autumn so they can go as long as possible.



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Thanks, koondense.

I'll do as you suggested. Planting the rest of the seeds earlier next season, comparing pots and ground. First of May might be early, so I may have to wait until mid may.
I pollinated it 12 days ago with its brother growing next to it. It had barely sprung some pistils then, so I don't know if the pollen did anything. Today I dusted it again, I also dusted some flowers with regular auto pollen brought from home.
I also want to cross super auto with auto, hopefully some phenos retain size while finishing quicker.

Maybe hard to tell from the photo, but are these flowers capable of taking the pollen and produce seeds?
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