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Old 02-18-2019, 08:42 PM #1
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S1 Pheno hunting with Chem 91 Skunk VA

So have a couple of packs of CSI Humboldt Chem 91 S1s. I’d like to run them to see if I can find a Skunk VA Pheno since there will be variation. What is the best way to do this? And since there will be variation, could the seeds potentially produce Chem D, Chem 4 phenos , etc?

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Run them and you'll know them.
Best is to grow as many as you can.
As it is selfed(S1)
They should all be Chem phenos.
Full fuel is 91 pheno
Acrid funk is the D Pheno
The Sis is more like the D then 91.

Have fun looking through them.
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The other chems are probably 91 hybrids (despite what the chem crew says) so i would have to say no on finding "D , 4, or Sis phenos"
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why do you think they are hybrids of chem 91? I have zero idea so am honestly curious as always heard dif bag seeds? very well could be different stray pollen... not that it truly matters at the end of the day. thanks
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The other chems are probably 91 hybrids (despite what the chem crew says) so i would have to say no on finding "D , 4, or Sis phenos"
How is it that you've got the idea that the other Chems are hybrids of the 91 when its not even known if all the Chem seeds had the same father or mother?
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It is absolutely known, without any questions what so ever, that Chem '91, Chem D, and Chem 4 are ALL related. (not sure Sis or Chem 1-3 have ever been entered) Phylos pairs them perfectly as the story was told, ironically enough.

What is interesting, in that equation that does show perhaps a deviation from the stories and assumed facts, is the ECSD doesn't pair to the '91. It pairs to D and 4 but not '91.

Chem '91 is more fuel. Chem D is more GARLIC and dirty hashy sweat socks. Chem #4 is more lemon/limey. Chem Sis is sharper/more acidic skunk with hints of the earthy garlic far in the background.

The chems, for the most part, all breed very differently. Chem '91 s1 entries in Phylos from nspecta show the scope of how they cluster around the '91. They are not as close to the parent as you'd expect, so their is a good deal of variation in her still.

THE REAL TELL - for a Chem '91 pheno is the oddly dark, rubber looking leaves. It's sort of "her thing" that makes her stand out. Also, look for stems that are heavily zig-zagged between internodes.

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what do u mean zig zagged at internodes? obv have a little bit of an idea just cant picture it. like when flowering how one side/node at a time and not 2 out the same spot on the stem like normal veg growth? just mature plants or just in flower does it more noticable? not a big deal just find it interesting, many small traits are never talked about thanks!
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Look at the meristem on each plant. One is Chem D. One is Chem Sis x NL. See the side to side zig zag of the growth at each internode? This can be expressed much more exaggerated depending on light heights, but, it is something I've always paid attention to when sorting Chem lines in general. That growth pattern is typical of heavily chem line dominant phenos. (this is not to say every plant that grows this way is a chem line, obviously.)



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Thank for the great info and pics Dank.Frank. Great information to have for when I start growing the beans out and to know in general.

I also have some S1s from cannaventure of chem 91 x Chem D. In theory, should you get the same results as searching with the Chem 91 S1s? That is where I get confused.
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Nope. Not the same. You'll see similarities. I'd say, the D x will have larger yields and potentially make better hash. Chem D is one of the best FMCD plants ever.



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