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Old 07-09-2019, 11:25 PM #1
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Preserving genetics .... the easy way?

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Life and work has brought me to Chicago, and we are currently in a 2 bed condo without much space (cost of living here is insane). Iíve got a TON of genetics from ACE and other breeders that are getting old but I only have a small grow cab 18ĒLx16ĒDx36Ē h with a HLG-100 LED.

I really need to do some seed runs before these genetics lose viability as some of these were purchased from ACE probably 7-10 years ago (kept dry in cold storage).

We are talking Golden tiger, Zamaldelica, Malawi, OTH, PCK, benghi haze, Nepal jam and others too.

Iím seriously considering just putting 6 beans in 6 solo cups and flipping them to 12/12 and let them just pollinate each other freely.... a full blown seed run.

Think this is even pheasible? I can just chop them and tie them back , cut the crap out of them to keep them low enough. Not sure how well it will work out, it might end up being a nightmare of a mess lol

Then the other concern is cross contamination from one seed run with one strain to the next, the walls are lined with Mylar, Would I need to rip all that down between runs and wipe everything down?

Just trying to figure out my best course of action on how to handle this.

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Old 07-11-2019, 02:49 AM #2
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It sounds like youd be doing 1 strain at a time, right? If that's the case you can do it just fine. I'd say try to go to 1/2g. or 1g. if you can fit them. You'll want to cull them down so you only have 1 Male by the time your 2 weeks into bloom, and either the rest are the females or select the best one female to pollinate and cull the others. Select the best looking plants, which is tough without clones but itll work. After the pollen spreads and the plants are making seeds you can pull them out for a minute and spray the cabinet down with water. This will neutralize the Male pollen, and keep you from having issues with the next crop. Which with veg time you dont have to be too concerned with anyhow. Pollen wont stay viable for too long if its exposed to the environment.

At least that's my 2 cents. Hope it helps, and good luck.. you can do this, just stay focused and vigilant. You'll do fine.��✌
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There are actually a few threads recently on doing what you're thinking about. Anyone have the links handy?
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ROM it sounds like he is more into preserving and making large varity to then go select. or def can go ahead and choose top couple males and top couple fems, just narrowes things down which can be good or bad depending on what you are wanting to accomplish.

to me it sounds like just want to preserve as most as possible. def can cull undesirable plants but if fairly close use everything esp if is var past the f2 already ie hermie or no vigor.
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This is correct, I really just want to preserve the genetics without going through and selecting phenos, as I donít have time to do that now. Popping the beans, to eliminate weak fries is fine though, and also I believe Iím done with selecting four females and two males and just lettingbit do itís thing in order to preserve genetics. Iím some cases, the strains are very stable, Iím others like ACEís Zamaldelica.... itís a three way polyhydrid consisting of Malawi, Zamal, and Thai parental plants and all three phenos tend to express themselves. I donít want to lose the opportunity later to pheno hunt, but rather keep those genetics in seed form.

Whatís the best way to do it?
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Sprout the seeds.
Chop the first 5-6" cutting on each, label well and root under 12/12 lighting.
Flower the males, collect, dry and properly store the pollen.
Flower the females.
Pollinate individual branches, or mix the pollen and pollinate all females, your choice. Be sure to use detailed notes if you do individual branches.

Keep them healthy until harvest, it's not for smoking so no fade or flush is necessary. Keep them fed till harvest.
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Hi,

I have just done something similar in Aus.

Started 10 Female Strains and One Male under light.
Planted outside in Coco when days length = about 12 hrs.

Plants directly seeded outside @12/12 will often continue in growth for weeks to a month for late strains.

Plants established under 24hrs light will turn almost immediately when taken outside @12/12.
Followed closely by Later strains in the next 1-2 weeks.


My point being it can be better to establish plants inside.
So they flower more in sync when planted outside @12/12.

Keep the Nutrient strength low until plants adjust, it can take some time.
Only increase strength if the roots have established in outside coco, you can still set seed either way!

Outside, pollination can be far more sporadic and hit and miss then the grower wants.
Put male on upwind side. You can also place flowering branches in bottles full of water to double up areas of concern.
This will give you at least the second day’s pollination in another location before the cut branch droops.

Keep in mind that shortening days and cooler weather will delay seed maturity to about 2 months from pollination.
I Left the Male 11 days after the first pollen release. The plants were from lightly or under-seeded < 30, to heavy > 100-1000 downwind.
I had to cover plants every night for a month to protect from frost or rain. Otherwise the plant would not mature good seed.


Chicago Day Length:
https://dateandtime.info/citysunrise...th=9&year=2019

Might work for you, depending on situation in Chicago.
My guess is that you have no where outside to grow.
But just in case it helps.


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