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Old 07-11-2019, 05:30 AM #11
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Suppose it's possible, say you harvested 2 crops (in the same room with different configs) at the same time. One grown for quality, and one for the yield. A harvest is a harvest right?
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Depending on the target market,, no a harvest is not a harvest when you need to sell it to survive,,,,

yeald,, blend,,, additives,, processing,, product delivery,, it all amounts to keeping the prosses self perpetual,,, maintaining interest and investment is sometimes an ultimate priority

Personality I run yealding clones and persi clones under the same system,,, the clones I live seem to be the lowest yealding and not feasible as a money maker
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you are mostly just increasing the space between those trichomes.
Great point, I've been thinking along these exact lines for some years now CannaRed. I think some nutrients and light spectrums cause more vegetative growth (than we'd like during flowering). And if the limit of # of trichomes is genetic (which I think it is), feeding or lighting that increases that vegetative mass while leaving the trichome count the same will reduce potency by increasing weight.

So yeah Douglas, I agree.
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Definitely,,, i absolutely agree,, thc% is litrally a surface area deal,,, tric size is more my bag,, i like to look at a bud and not need a microscope to see glands
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Sure, higher ratios of blue light have been shown to increase flavinoids, cannabinoids, terpenoids, at the cost of yields compared to plants grown under lower B:R ratios. In various peer reviewed studies. Mnay of the pigments that increase quality but also potency are in the UV range. I think it's also a genetic thing where plants which are selected to be huge yielders are usually lower THC content.
In the 80s/90s there was a lot of drama about new hydro tomatoes because they were huge in size but lacking in flavor (sugars). Everybody was quick to blame hydroponics and mineral nutrients. In reality, the problem was with the genetics. They had been breeding for yield and ease of cultivation.
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The key to maximizing quality and yield is trace mineral balancing. Most hydroponic nutrients do not contain a full range of balanced trace minerals, but when plants are supplied with all necessary trace minerals (enzyme cofactors) plants can work at their full genetic potential to produce a much higher yield of flower as well as essential oils/trichomes.
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In the 80s/90s there was a lot of drama about new hydro tomatoes because they were huge in size but lacking in flavor (sugars). Everybody was quick to blame hydroponics and mineral nutrients. In reality, the problem was with the genetics.

Exactly, SuperBadGrower. I think cannabis breeders and growers kind of learned about the yield vs quality thing back in the day with the 'Bigbud' strain. I for one, only consider yield after smells, tastes and effects are on point. Other traits are just higher (no pun intended) priority. Pretty sure most other breeders are doing the same. It's interesting to note that vegetable breeders are breeding for flavor more recently too.
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GOT_BUD? That's interesting... if you find the link in your history I'd love to listen as well. Ty.
I believe it was this episode of the KIS Organics podcast.

https://www.kisorganics.com/pages/ca...ast-episode-51

Or it was episode 40 or 41 with Jeremy Plumb.

I've been listening to this at work a lot lately, and they all kind of blend together.
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