Originally Posted by xxPeacePipexx
Well first off, General Hydroponics has a commercial dry product beyond the Maxi lineup .
Cutting Edge as well is joining the competition..
Mendocino (Grow more) Hydro
So there's three all in one quality dry salt based fertilizers that are around $50 for 25lbs.
I have been utilizing the Hydro offered from Mendocino as well as the GH Pro line and cutting edge is next.
I'm really surprised that I have more inside know with the competition then whomever is answering questions while promoting MegaCrop. And I might as well add that the new formula is not good with humidity above 25% as it draws excessive moisture and the organic pellets melt into a sticky mess.. Normally the calcium nitrate tends to draw excessive moisture. With Mega Crop the salt stays dry, but again the pellets turn into goo..
Thanks for the reply! You did share some pretty new information. Regarding pricing, our pallet prices are pretty low, around $40 per bag, and it should be dropping a bit in the future also. I know for individual growers, you won't be able to take advantage of that, and we will lower somewhat in the future as well for smaller sizes.
Regarding FloraGro pro. Its not suitable for hydroponics because of the high Ammonium content. So that means they are usually Ammonium type Nitrogen ingredients which are less expensive.
Even if you were to bite the bullet, and accept the compromise/side effects of higher Ammonium (actually will work well in soil), it appears their product line is not a single part, since it has no micro/trace. So its a multi-part 3-part grow system similar to their liquid 3-part, except bulk powder. So you have to buy 3x25lbs bags to actually run the formula, which isn't that great for smaller growers, but will work OK for larger commercial growers.
Mega Crop also has ingredients like Silica and Amino Acids, and special chemistry technology that allows it to be a 1 part nutrient even in fertilizer injector/concentrate setups. Other companies don't have our technology (yet), so they have to separate the products.
The product does look very interesting, and price seems fair! We definitely will be keeping an eye on this and planning to be more competitive with this. We always want to be very aware of all the competing products, and give the growers a reason to select us.
Regarding the CES powder, I can't find any pricing information to see how fairly priced it is. I don't think its actually released yet to the market, coming soon I bet.
As far as premium, again they are using very high levels of Ammonium Nitrogen(less expensive ingredients/cutting corners), no chelations/micros, and very low levels of Cal/Mag. Doesn't seem that great overall.
As far as the Grow More Mendocino, 5-11-26, this is a really standard hydroponic formula (same as Jacks/MasterBlend/etc). You would also need Calcium Nitrate and possible Epsom using this one I imagine. Actually I can't find any label on the product, so I can't really comment besides that.
If you want to take a photo and upload the label I can give some opinion on it.
Yes, when MegaCrop is exposed to heat/moisture it can clump and and even turn into "goo." We are working on some type of solution, for smaller sizes we have airtight resealable bags that are very high quality. For the bigger bag, we are improving the quality and testing a new sealing system of the bags coming up, so hopefully this helps improve.
The nutrients are always usable, since they will be water soluble, but once they get "gunky" it becomes messy and a pain to work with. Also, I can recommend to simply get a 5 Gallon bucket, and lid (gamma seal or normal), and put the Mega Crop bag in there. So around $4 you can a pretty complete sealing situation for the big Mega Crop bag. Keep away from temperatures and it should stay powder for a very long time.
Thanks for all your feedback! You seem like you are very educated, this really helps us improve our products for the future and planning, etc... I'll give you some special super secret insider information in exchange, as far as I know we are the only people to know about this anywhere on the web
Advanced Nutrients are entering the powder nutrient game soon! They seem to be using the same convoluted approach to having tons of products, but we know which way the wind is blowing. Liquid nutrient game is dying, and they have no choice but to follow suit.