2016 IC 420 Cup Winners!

Skip · Apr 22, 2016

as far as the voting goes, if as CC just posted, there was no change to the programming, then the person entering the names of who entered must have spelled the name of the entering person differently then their ic handle. so the program didnt recognize the fact that it was the same entity.

There was no change to the system. As he said, it was probably due to spelling issues, because it is supposed to stop ppl voting their own strains. But of course this doesn't stop their friends from doing it.

Really doesn't matter that much so long as there are enough votes. Outliers are highlighted in yellow. Those are the more questionable ones, since they deviate from the average the most.

It's always the pre-committed Super Stoner Delegates who mess things up!

gaiusmarius · Apr 22, 2016

TDK said:
yeah, seems that they have made some changes...
Looks like i am more black than white
In few things i am not "In" but ok^^ that´s life

It is good to be a part of the cup...

regards

hey man, seems we didnt ever hook up, hopefully next year.

it can be very hard to compete with an out door entry in this cup. so many points are given for appearance that an out door sample will have it hard. you also didn't trim it well so you suffered point wise for that. and the aspect that you probably would do well on the effect is the one that is hardest to judge under cup conditions.

i know i liked the bouquet of your entry a lot, but it seemed a bit hot to smoke? what kind of nutrients you using for that?

TDK · Apr 22, 2016

gaiusmarius said:
hey man, seems we didnt ever hook up, hopefully next year.

it can be very hard to compete with an out door entry in this cup. so many points are given for appearance that an out door sample will have it hard. you also didn't trim it well so you suffered point wise for that. and the aspect that you probably would do well on the effect is the one that is hardest to judge under cup conditions.

i know i liked the bouquet of your entry a lot, but it seemed a bit hot to smoke? what kind of nutrients you using for that?

Think it too for next year to meet up...
The trim should be ok, i had the most here( use later for hash)

The Soil is Handmade and i use not too much food.. only Bloom from Hesi, no PH+ from Hesi cause i think more plantz didnt want or need it..

i shift from here to the other spot^^

ChaosCatalunya · Apr 22, 2016

Skip said:
There was no change to the system. As he said, it was probably due to spelling issues, because it is supposed to stop ppl voting their own strains. But of course this doesn't stop their friends from doing it.

Really doesn't matter that much so long as there are enough votes. Outliers are highlighted in yellow. Those are the more questionable ones, since they deviate from the average the most.

It's always the pre-committed Super Stoner Delegates who mess things up!

Actually it does matter Skip, because we are not only discussing one person or their votes on their own entries, they were also clearly downvoting rivals, to the point that some even got eliminated from the voting, highlighted in yellow because they were so low, if you take out their 2 votes, my entry would have averaged 38.84, putting it 2and not 4th.

So, yes, it really does matter

Skip · Apr 22, 2016

ChaosCatalunya said:
Actually it does matter Skip, because we are not only discussing one person or their votes on their own entries, they were also clearly downvoting rivals, to the point that some even got eliminated from the voting, highlighted in yellow because they were so low, if you take out their 2 votes, my entry would have averaged 38.84, putting it 2and not 4th.

So, yes, it really does matter

Then you need to take it up with those who did not vote honestly.
We show you who they are.
It's their own reputations that are at stake here.
Perhaps they shouldn't be invited to the next cup.
Not my place to say.

No way we can screen out "friends" votes.

I thought you were all friends...

besthaze · Apr 23, 2016

ChaosCatalunya said:
Actually it does matter Skip, because we are not only discussing one person or their votes on their own entries, they were also clearly downvoting rivals, to the point that some even got eliminated from the voting, highlighted in yellow because they were so low, if you take out their 2 votes, my entry would have averaged 38.84, putting it 2and not 4th.

So, yes, it really does matter

just because my reputation is at stake here.

If u are talking about your entry AMNESIA please, ask me what you want to know about the vote. we will be happy to explain what you want. here or in a PM, as u prefer.

I've voted the entries at the best, I don't permit any suspicion about it. it's the number who talk, NO bullshit about it.
anytime I'll vote bad I get my reasons and I'll be happy to explain anything at anyone who ask to me.

And remember that anyone have their own sensation about some vote received from somebody else. that's the cup. 4 sure 27 or 28 judges can't be only "friends" and I think that the quality comes out at the end.

4 sure I don't need to undervoting someone to get a good placement for my entries.
Mate this's been my third participation at the Cup...I really don't like to be conceited but look at my signature and my albums and you'll simply understand what I mean.

I understand the disappointment but playing with other's reputation is not nice. :tiphat:

Hold Your Fire · Apr 23, 2016

Now I'm going to see what I can find from Catnip.

Good showing for them!

Mate Dave · Apr 23, 2016

Skip said:
Then you need to take it up with those who did not vote honestly.
We show you who they are.
It's their own reputations that are at stake here.
Perhaps they shouldn't be invited to the next cup.
Not my place to say.

No way we can screen out "friends" votes.

I thought you were all friends...

We are until it comes to the 'Best'.

Then we quarrel over genetics who had perfect temps and who's a noob.

As I understand it there was afew catagories Indica mostly indica sativa mostly sativa and a hash.

The soil and bio hydro shouldn't even come into it.. If you feel your hydro game is up to that of the natural world be my guest...

Big nugs ain't that tasty I find..

Chaos by your reckoning how many voters we need to bring to white wash the event?

Not saying it's right but i'm playing the odds which make sense to me...

2 of my cru are entering next year with hybrids.

Karma G · Apr 23, 2016

Only mistake i see is comoutermistake that counted some votes from entrants on there own entry.

Its a mistake just rectify so rulles are followed as all 12 years.

As for friend voting etc. It not solid and not somthing we can realy controle.

But the voting on own entry is a stated rule for all these years. So as organization is reaponsibel for that. I expect IC420 to take out ALL votes for own entry.s by the entrant. And make all follow same rules. Fair is fair.

Ore count a 10.10.10 vote for all entries extra that didnt get voted on by own entrant and make it the same. As all that enterd hink there entry is a 10.10.10.

J_hoover · Apr 23, 2016

Karma G said:
Can you vote for yourself now ?

Yes you can lol

Damn i see people giving themselfs 10 10 10 10 10 on there own entries!!!!

I think next year ill do the same as others do!! Get judge packs for my whole crew and get them all to vote for me 10 10 10 10

And i think ill score myself 10 10 10 aswell like everyone else did!

you can clearly see entrants scoring themselfs high to win and influencing there friends to high score them also. This shit happens every year!

Next time dont give judge packs to groups who voting together..

J_hoover · Apr 23, 2016

Karma G said:
Only mistake i see is comoutermistake that counted some votes from entrants on there own entry.

Its a mistake just rectify so rulles are followed as all 12 years.

As for friend voting etc. It not solid and not somthing we can realy controle.

But the voting on own entry is a stated rule for all these years. So as organization is reaponsibel for that. I expect IC420 to take out ALL votes for own entry.s by the entrant. And make all follow same rules. Fair is fair.

Ore count a 10.10.10 vote for all entries extra that didnt get voted on by own entrant and make it the same. As all that enterd hink there entry is a 10.10.10.

Bro we can clearly see which groups were voting for there own!!

This shit happens every year and the same ppl do the same shit and nobody says crap!

Oh well lol..

ojd · Apr 23, 2016

Had a blast this year
See you guys next year

One thing on voting
I was 3 samples short on my entry
So did they get left out or given average scores ?
Because even low scores add up

Also on own voting i did inform old pink i filled my entry score in and was told it would be taken out and average score put in

Also i didnt vote on 1 of the hash entries in time (hope it got an average score instead of no points)

besthaze · Apr 23, 2016

Sorry guyz,
For sure I can wrong but I really think me & dr.P had some of the best entries this year. My sensations when I read the votes received from the other judges votes has been of GREAT JOY & HAPPINESS , thank u all again buddies!

Then someone began to write a long here, about judging from others...wasting a lot of words about the guys 's voted well their own entries...
These people write about this is sure to be perfectly honest about his own votes first?
In particular with the votes deserved to competitors...

I really dislike to do this 'cause I think everyone can like or dislike my stuff...but here, how 's written Skip before, my reputation is at stake here.

if someone isn't yet conviced I can do some examples ... but I'd rather not have them here.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
Are u sure to be without sins?

VonBudí · Apr 23, 2016

this isnt florida, just do a recount

AceHaze · Apr 23, 2016

yeah, a recount without the self votings would be fair.

By the way, from my point of view the best entries are among the winners, even if some of the judges gave out low scores to stuff I liked. But in total it doesn´t make a big difference in ranking. Also the Amnesia from ChaosCatalunja wasn´t judged by half of the judges, so you might of missed some higher scores for your entry. And some of the guys usually give low scores for Amnesia, cause they are tired of smoking it. Even other Haze entries got lower votes, cause people thouht it was that ole Amnesia again. Personally I love Hazes and I also like the Amnesia, though it´s sad, that all the other good ol Hazes liek NL5Hz, G13Haze or the Nevilles are getting repressed by the Amnesia...

It´s a tough competition, so if you are placed 4th or 5th with something, it probably was some good smoke you can be proud of anyway...

Peace
Ace

Karma G · Apr 23, 2016

Got to love it when sam gives you a 37 totaal for my rosin entry. I think thats the highest i have ever seen him score a hash entry at IC420. Makes me smile.

meltybubble · Apr 23, 2016

Karma G said:
Got to love it when sam gives you a 37 totaal for my rosin entry. I think thats the highest i have ever seen him score a hash entry at IC420. Makes me smile.

Awesome Karma, sams don't play games, rosin game strong bro!
:tiphat:

HerrWunderlich · Apr 23, 2016

Congrats to all the winners and organisators!

Londinium · Apr 23, 2016

You won the hash in my judging too....that was delicious K. ;]

The Pheonix · Apr 23, 2016

i think the self voting is wholly unfair and a recount without them votes is only right and fair!

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