Stay Gel^N 247
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I hope you only used Rocky mountain spring water
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bio-bucket res's sssdh x joey weed's blueberry ak47
- Thread starter cravin morehead
- Start date
I hope you only used Rocky mountain spring water
stay geln - you know it... since there are no trichomes to gauge ripeness I just pull the beers off when the can seals itself. then it's off to the fridge to cure for a while. growing beer is different than growing bud, you dry the beer after it has cold cured for only like an hour. I'm still testing this process rigorously, I make around 6-12 tests daily. I hope to get the drying process figured out eventually...
hahaha!!
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hahaha!!
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day 71
day 71
day 71, oh ya
sorry emergency call at work . got no time... will update when i get off
cm
day 71
sorry emergency call at work . got no time... will update when i get off
cm
day 72 update
day 72 update
hey guys, well here we are on day 72. besides a hit of PM, this run has been pretty uneventful. thats a good thing i guess. i'll tell you i don't miss finding and fixing root issues anymore. in this system, root pathogens are a thing of the past. thats a nice feature of this lean, mean, growing machine. i'm still waiting to pull the trigger and go for their 48 hours of dark before harvest. maybe today will be the day, maybe not. the leaves are getting a nice fade and fall colors are starting to set in. some of the leaves are going crispy on me. i think those are the ones that were most affected by the PM. other than that, flushing is underway. actually i do more of just a taper off of nutes. i just stop feeding them and they eat up whats left in the res. day 71 shots
i managed to get a shot in before the lights kicked on. you can see the leaf fade. the beer is ripening too. it switched phenos on me, now its an IPA
here are the fall colors setting in. i love when plants start looking like this
another bad macro attempt
some Scroggy buds fading and finishing up
from above
guys, i'm telling you, this cross is really something. i can't believe the scent of them buds. guava and grapefruit. a post or 2 above i talk about sampling a nug. holy crap was it good. i just may have stumbled on to a keeper for life here. i wish i could share it with you guys. and i'm not one to get all over excited and over exagerate on the buds i grow. but this one is doing it for me. glad i got like 30 more of these seeds to explore. i usually dont weigh my harvests, but i think i'm looking at a couple lbs here. the buds are thick and dense and if they weren't scrogged, i would've been tying them up like crazy, i bet...
thats it for now. hope you guys are enjoying the ride. i sure am. i'm sure someones got bio-bucket questions, fire away. this place (ICMag) seems to be getting more lookers than participaters now a days. too bad because bio-buckets make growing so much simpler than any other hydro system out. pure economy, no waste, no additives, no ph, no bullshit. just set it and forget it. i bet with the right strain i could do a whole run without even opening the tent other than to harvest. i would try it but most straight indicas bore me. i never really liked growing or smoking most of the ELITE types. just more of the same old high. i strive for different in my stash. just my unpopular opinion, take it or leave it, i don't care...
until next time, hopefully harvest time...
cm
day 72 update
hey guys, well here we are on day 72. besides a hit of PM, this run has been pretty uneventful. thats a good thing i guess. i'll tell you i don't miss finding and fixing root issues anymore. in this system, root pathogens are a thing of the past. thats a nice feature of this lean, mean, growing machine. i'm still waiting to pull the trigger and go for their 48 hours of dark before harvest. maybe today will be the day, maybe not. the leaves are getting a nice fade and fall colors are starting to set in. some of the leaves are going crispy on me. i think those are the ones that were most affected by the PM. other than that, flushing is underway. actually i do more of just a taper off of nutes. i just stop feeding them and they eat up whats left in the res. day 71 shots
guys, i'm telling you, this cross is really something. i can't believe the scent of them buds. guava and grapefruit. a post or 2 above i talk about sampling a nug. holy crap was it good. i just may have stumbled on to a keeper for life here. i wish i could share it with you guys. and i'm not one to get all over excited and over exagerate on the buds i grow. but this one is doing it for me. glad i got like 30 more of these seeds to explore. i usually dont weigh my harvests, but i think i'm looking at a couple lbs here. the buds are thick and dense and if they weren't scrogged, i would've been tying them up like crazy, i bet...
thats it for now. hope you guys are enjoying the ride. i sure am. i'm sure someones got bio-bucket questions, fire away. this place (ICMag) seems to be getting more lookers than participaters now a days. too bad because bio-buckets make growing so much simpler than any other hydro system out. pure economy, no waste, no additives, no ph, no bullshit. just set it and forget it. i bet with the right strain i could do a whole run without even opening the tent other than to harvest. i would try it but most straight indicas bore me. i never really liked growing or smoking most of the ELITE types. just more of the same old high. i strive for different in my stash. just my unpopular opinion, take it or leave it, i don't care...
until next time, hopefully harvest time...
cm
James Howlett
Member
Looking nice and fat cravin.
I bet it smells fruity as hell in there.
Never heard of bio buckets before but it looks like your crushing it. Great job.
I bet it smells fruity as hell in there.
Never heard of bio buckets before but it looks like your crushing it. Great job.
Stay Gel^N 247
Member
Glad to see it didn't hermie and switch to a wine cooler. That will easily increase her chances for pollination.
stay geln- that comment killed me!! dude, too funny
james- hey bud thanks for the compliment. Bio-Buckets simply kick ass, period. I've grown damn near every single way possible. some techniques were better than others. None, none of them were more efficient, yielded better, or were simpler to run. multi srains at once, no problem. there are no drip lines that clog. there are no ph issues. there is zero runoff to deal with (waste). essentially there is only one mechanical part, an h20 pump. my favorite feature is the most beautiful, healthy roots you can imagine. Zero root pathogen issues. here's some root porn for you
after all if you got shit roots, you get shit plants, you got shit plants, you get shit buds. shit is completely relative in growing. big toke said it best:
Put back into your plant-production system a set of organisms that will work for you, instead of against you.
Most people have the attitude that microbes are all harmful, but in fact, most organisms in soil or in solution are beneficial for plant growth. Modern agriculture developed the view that all disease-causing and pest organisms need to be killed, and so the kill-everything-but-the-plant attitude came about. Unaware that healthy soil or solution in fact should contain more beneficial bacterium, and so a program to wipe out life in soil and solution was initiated. But more and more toxic chemicals have had to be used as the diseases and pests develop resistance with the ever-increasing use of killing agents.
Why don’t the beneficial organisms develop resistance to the toxic chemicals being used? Because almost by definition, disease organisms and pests have a boom-and-bust life cycle, so when one pest organism survives the chemical onslaught, hundreds, or thousands, or billions of offspring are produced. Beneficial organisms rarely employ that kind of growth strategy, but instead reproduce only a few times a year, with perhaps only a few offspring produced each time. Thus, when you use toxic chemicals to control diseases, but in fact kill most of the beneficial organisms in the soil or solution, it takes a long time for the beneficials to return. Thus the likelihood that they will develop resistance is significantly less than that for any disease or pest organism.
Modern agriculture has set the stage for non-stop, never-ending reliance on chemicals. That’s great if you want to sell chemicals, not so great if you need to have drinkable water.
Do we have to go this route? What we need in production agriculture is to help the beneficials more than the diseases and pests. We need to tip the balance in favor of the good guys. What conditions favor the good guys? Do we really need to know all the names of all the organisms in soil or solution, or do we just need to know which conditions favor the beneficials and which favor the diseases?
if you are interested, hit me up. I can't believe how many hydro growers are over looking the obvious. they must like giving their money away to the snake oil peddlers. because none of them are necessary. I grow from start to finish with one bottle of nutes, dynagro bloom. that's it... I do not drain my whole system multiple times a run to contaminate the soils around my house or down into the sewer systems. my drained nutes feed house plants and container grown plants only. and sometimes i dont even drain the res between runs. just drain the buckets. the best part is yields are up there with any other technique. growth can be explosive.
enough of my preaching, but seriously, if people would just think instead of just adopting the new coolest technique going, there grows would be soooo much easier. bio bucket grows can be kinda boring because there is nothing to do but top up nutes and tend to the canopy...
cm
james- hey bud thanks for the compliment. Bio-Buckets simply kick ass, period. I've grown damn near every single way possible. some techniques were better than others. None, none of them were more efficient, yielded better, or were simpler to run. multi srains at once, no problem. there are no drip lines that clog. there are no ph issues. there is zero runoff to deal with (waste). essentially there is only one mechanical part, an h20 pump. my favorite feature is the most beautiful, healthy roots you can imagine. Zero root pathogen issues. here's some root porn for you
Put back into your plant-production system a set of organisms that will work for you, instead of against you.
Most people have the attitude that microbes are all harmful, but in fact, most organisms in soil or in solution are beneficial for plant growth. Modern agriculture developed the view that all disease-causing and pest organisms need to be killed, and so the kill-everything-but-the-plant attitude came about. Unaware that healthy soil or solution in fact should contain more beneficial bacterium, and so a program to wipe out life in soil and solution was initiated. But more and more toxic chemicals have had to be used as the diseases and pests develop resistance with the ever-increasing use of killing agents.
Why don’t the beneficial organisms develop resistance to the toxic chemicals being used? Because almost by definition, disease organisms and pests have a boom-and-bust life cycle, so when one pest organism survives the chemical onslaught, hundreds, or thousands, or billions of offspring are produced. Beneficial organisms rarely employ that kind of growth strategy, but instead reproduce only a few times a year, with perhaps only a few offspring produced each time. Thus, when you use toxic chemicals to control diseases, but in fact kill most of the beneficial organisms in the soil or solution, it takes a long time for the beneficials to return. Thus the likelihood that they will develop resistance is significantly less than that for any disease or pest organism.
Modern agriculture has set the stage for non-stop, never-ending reliance on chemicals. That’s great if you want to sell chemicals, not so great if you need to have drinkable water.
Do we have to go this route? What we need in production agriculture is to help the beneficials more than the diseases and pests. We need to tip the balance in favor of the good guys. What conditions favor the good guys? Do we really need to know all the names of all the organisms in soil or solution, or do we just need to know which conditions favor the beneficials and which favor the diseases?
if you are interested, hit me up. I can't believe how many hydro growers are over looking the obvious. they must like giving their money away to the snake oil peddlers. because none of them are necessary. I grow from start to finish with one bottle of nutes, dynagro bloom. that's it... I do not drain my whole system multiple times a run to contaminate the soils around my house or down into the sewer systems. my drained nutes feed house plants and container grown plants only. and sometimes i dont even drain the res between runs. just drain the buckets. the best part is yields are up there with any other technique. growth can be explosive.
enough of my preaching, but seriously, if people would just think instead of just adopting the new coolest technique going, there grows would be soooo much easier. bio bucket grows can be kinda boring because there is nothing to do but top up nutes and tend to the canopy...
cm
welcome
welcome
Bobbo- too bad this run is almost over. but glad to have you join in.
below is a drawing I put together for a few people to try out bio buckets without a big investment. I would recommend putting the res bucket outside of the grow area to help keep water temps down. also adding a float valve to auto top up the reservoir is ideal. one main key is a 8" net pot mounted to the inside of the bucket lid with a 2" hole in the lid itself. it helps keep a humid environment where the Bennie's live most. I like using a mixture of red, gray, and black lava rocks for the silica and other minerals each bring to the table. also, try to keep the main return line to the res as high as you can because that waterfall at the return provides all the oxygen for the system, no air pumps needed if done right. notice the grow bucket is on a slightly raised platform to help facilitate the main return line angle to flow back to the reservoir. I hope you can see it good enough. I also included a parts list to roughly get it going. if you have any specific questions, ask away I'm always glad to help someone get into bucketeering.
let me know if I can help,
cm
welcome
Bobbo- too bad this run is almost over. but glad to have you join in.
below is a drawing I put together for a few people to try out bio buckets without a big investment. I would recommend putting the res bucket outside of the grow area to help keep water temps down. also adding a float valve to auto top up the reservoir is ideal. one main key is a 8" net pot mounted to the inside of the bucket lid with a 2" hole in the lid itself. it helps keep a humid environment where the Bennie's live most. I like using a mixture of red, gray, and black lava rocks for the silica and other minerals each bring to the table. also, try to keep the main return line to the res as high as you can because that waterfall at the return provides all the oxygen for the system, no air pumps needed if done right. notice the grow bucket is on a slightly raised platform to help facilitate the main return line angle to flow back to the reservoir. I hope you can see it good enough. I also included a parts list to roughly get it going. if you have any specific questions, ask away I'm always glad to help someone get into bucketeering. let me know if I can help,
cm
just to let you guys know, I was experimenting a little on this run. seeing what the Bennie's can do as for nutrient uptake or overdosing. I intentionally left all the water from my last run in the system for this run. I didn't even drain the buckets. I started with an concentration of about 500ppm left over from last run. so my levels of 900ppm and 1.8ec were just what I added to the existing 500ppm in the system. I wanted to see how well the bacteria would handle high concentrations and if the plants would overdose and burn themselves. so really my additions of nutes were only like 400ppm. I never really saw leaf tip burn. so I'm thinking bio buckets can take low ec levels as well as high. I normally run around 500ppm 1.0 ec for damn near all strains. for me diesels always seem to like extra cal/mag and nitrogen. so next time I run this Ssb47 in my system, i'm going to try and stay below 500ppm. which is next to nothing as my tap comes out at around 150ppm.
growing is an on going experiment and that's one of the many things I love about it. there is always a next run and always little tweaks and changes trying to get the best you can. oh ya, I started their no lights period. yesterday was the first day of no lights hoping to push some more resin out of them. although these girls are pretty well covered in trichomes already... until next time,
cm
growing is an on going experiment and that's one of the many things I love about it. there is always a next run and always little tweaks and changes trying to get the best you can. oh ya, I started their no lights period. yesterday was the first day of no lights hoping to push some more resin out of them. although these girls are pretty well covered in trichomes already... until next time,
cm
Bobbo- too bad this run is almost over. but glad to have you join in.
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let me know if I can help,
cm
Thank you Cravin'!!
no prob Bob... keep me posted on how it works for you. that little set up is great for throwing in the corner of your room and trying it out. any questions, I'm here bud
cm
cm
harvesting today...
I know this is a bit old but do you have a final update? Would like to see how things turned out and some pics if possible.
I found the thread while researching bio buckets. I really like the sound of not having to sterilize and using nature to help all aspects of growth. And not having to worry about PH would be great. I'm disabled and was looking for something to make things easier and the BB sound about perfect.
I would be curious if some of the fungi like myco and tricoderma will live in the system but haven't found anything definitive yet. There are certain strains of beneficials that are supposed to be better than others and I'm wondering if these can be added or if that is just asking for trouble and only natural air born beneficials should be allowed. Also curious if some of the enzyme products would help like some of the barley products or if the beneficials make enough of their own. And some of the hormones like what is contained in aloe and coconut water. Or if all these things would just be asking for trouble but those are questions for another thread but I'm really curious the more I read about the BB.
Anyways, hope things ended up great and I would really be interested in hearing your final thoughts.
I found the thread while researching bio buckets. I really like the sound of not having to sterilize and using nature to help all aspects of growth. And not having to worry about PH would be great. I'm disabled and was looking for something to make things easier and the BB sound about perfect.
I would be curious if some of the fungi like myco and tricoderma will live in the system but haven't found anything definitive yet. There are certain strains of beneficials that are supposed to be better than others and I'm wondering if these can be added or if that is just asking for trouble and only natural air born beneficials should be allowed. Also curious if some of the enzyme products would help like some of the barley products or if the beneficials make enough of their own. And some of the hormones like what is contained in aloe and coconut water. Or if all these things would just be asking for trouble but those are questions for another thread but I'm really curious the more I read about the BB.
Anyways, hope things ended up great and I would really be interested in hearing your final thoughts.
Hey guys, glad to see some interest. What's up Kal El, long time bud. Your new system sounds interesting. Would love to check it out bro.
I gotta look through some memory cards but I'm pretty sure I took some harvest pics. Towards the end of this run seems everyone lost interest so I kept pics to myself. Those who know me, know I usually don't weigh harvests. But I'm guessing conservative here, probably about 2.5lbs of the top shelf buds. It is absolutely killer too. Loose, sticky, fruity smelling, old skool red eye sativa bud. Never ending ceiling with no paranoid to it. Very happy, laughy bud.
As far as adding other stuff to my bio buckets grows, I never felt a need to. These BB simply kick ass as designed. But don't let it stop you trying. Just do yourself a favor and run them as described here first. Do like 2 runs and you will realize not much needs to be fucked with at all. Spend your efforts on the canopy management and not on reservoir management. I highly recommend Dyna-gro bloom for the entire run, veg and bloom.
Good luck, keep questions coming,
Cm
I gotta look through some memory cards but I'm pretty sure I took some harvest pics. Towards the end of this run seems everyone lost interest so I kept pics to myself. Those who know me, know I usually don't weigh harvests. But I'm guessing conservative here, probably about 2.5lbs of the top shelf buds. It is absolutely killer too. Loose, sticky, fruity smelling, old skool red eye sativa bud. Never ending ceiling with no paranoid to it. Very happy, laughy bud.
As far as adding other stuff to my bio buckets grows, I never felt a need to. These BB simply kick ass as designed. But don't let it stop you trying. Just do yourself a favor and run them as described here first. Do like 2 runs and you will realize not much needs to be fucked with at all. Spend your efforts on the canopy management and not on reservoir management. I highly recommend Dyna-gro bloom for the entire run, veg and bloom.
Good luck, keep questions coming,
Cm
kal el
Member
Thanks for the update. I'm going to be setting up a small 4-6 bucket tent at some point and maybe double or triple that eventually if I can get some things sorted out. So I may have a few questions if you don't mind, though with all the great threads on them any questions will likely be minimal.
I think I also saw you mention cobs? That's something else I want to try. Just need to track down some great sativa genetics and would love to get some cuts but I don't live in the right place or know the right people for that, at least not anytime soon. But I will be experimenting with cobs with anything I grow no matter the genetics. It sounds like it's worth trying at least. Hopefully you were the one that mentioned them and you at least know what I'm rambling about. If you have any thoughts or hints it's always appreciated.
Take care
I think I also saw you mention cobs? That's something else I want to try. Just need to track down some great sativa genetics and would love to get some cuts but I don't live in the right place or know the right people for that, at least not anytime soon. But I will be experimenting with cobs with anything I grow no matter the genetics. It sounds like it's worth trying at least. Hopefully you were the one that mentioned them and you at least know what I'm rambling about. If you have any thoughts or hints it's always appreciated.
Take care
