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Old 09-08-2018, 11:38 AM #51
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Im still learning the whole organics thing. Im certain its the way i want to go. Your layering thing is pretty cool. Most of the other mixes are just that.
I opine that organics using the help of the microbe life makes for real tasty smoke.
The thing about mix'es is to not make them HEAVY .
I think anything over 20% worm castings make for a soggy mix.
If you notice how i go out of my way to make a well draining airy bottom,soggy bottoms retard much growth!
You want lots of voids to hold O2. Bigger particles laying on each other creates these voids.
This is where the majority of the beasties live!
Coco coir, perlite, rice hulls and diatomachous earth added to your base mix and used on the bottom of your pots are some of the things that i employ.
In the buried treasures and zones it gives the roots the choice if it wants whats laid down for it.
I believe that the plant conducts the show and i am but the stage manager.
Giving you thoughts?
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:49 PM #52
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Today was day 7 since being transplanted into their vegging pots.
Lets talk about watering given that there is a lot of different thoughts on such a simple thing as watering podded plants.
I am going to stick with how I do it.
No soggy bottoms!!!
First off I use nothing but collected rain water to this i add a small amount of a surfactant, yucca is my choice.
A surfactant loosen water adhesion properties, i think of it as making my water wetter.
It stops any dry spots in the pot of being missed.
I also double water ,I water a smaller amount of plain rain water with a small amount of yucca in it first to a small amount of run off.
I then come back 1/2 hour or more later and give them any tea or feed that i might be inclined on doing to a larger amount of run off.
I have been saying to look at your growing pot and think of it as having three layers,a top, middle and the bottom.
I use a water meter that i stick in my pots to tell me when to water.
Contrary to many i'll let the top 1/3 of the medium dry down completely,the middle will be going from the moist to dry and the bottom i wait until it is just beginning to go off of wet into moist.
I know beasties will die when the medium drys down but I just think of the dead beasties as more fodder for the fresh batch of the beasties that was applied in the newest tea.
I know it takes some commitment but the plants respond well to this technique!
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I love watering in the first top dressing
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:40 PM #53
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Today @ their 27 day they were dbl watered again @ the 6 th day.
So the second watering in their vegging pots.
Happy ,happy ,happy is what they are saying they tell me this by their transpiration rate,on their tippy toe's they are reaching big.
Another top dressing is in the works being the last one was 8 days ago.
I think of a dressing as lasting but 7-10 days if the microbe populations are booming and the plants are looking happy you know the beastie's are getting fat!
Do you know that up to %70 of what they eat is returned ready for immediate uptake by the plant through their roots.
Next top dressing will be 3 parts WC, 2 parts alfalfa, 1 part High N bat 10-2-1 and 1 part Agricola's best 4-3-4. Like each pot will get like 3 TBL
Agricoloas best is considered a complete fertilizer so i like using this.
I should begin sexing in another week .
The part of the grow that i find the most tedious i mean the thrill of finding a lady takes a lot of looking
I sometimes start to run out of head room before i find 10 ladies,so sometimes i'll flip them into flower to find my 10.
I prefer sexing them and getting them transplanted for a week or so before flipping but that doesn't always happen.
The tallest i veg them to is 28-29 in. and they stretch to 47-48 in.
This is about the absolute how tall i want my plants.
This Skunk A Rella does not seem to like toppings whether its done early or late.
When top it slows big and then the first new growth seems mutated.Lots of lost time!
I have also seen no difference in yield in top or untopped plants so i quit this pratice.
The plant does take to training well in bending the tops over they continually grow back to the light but i try and not veg them over 28 inches.
By the way I got new seed making light a couple of T-8 day light.
It cost me about $30 more for new fixture over repairing the 15 year old T-12 so i went that route.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:56 AM #54
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Hello Ratzilla !

Thanks a lot for sharing your lifetime experience in such well written posts. They're always a real pleasure to read
I'm 20 years behind you and, although growing outdoor in a tropical island, i'm doing lots of things just like you. And it sure works ! Our main problems here are the super high rh due to the almost year long monsoon, and the pests, virus and fongi proliferation that go with it... Well, i almost forgot the law...

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Old 09-15-2018, 02:06 AM #55
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Hey Rat, can you talk some more about your top dressings and Worm Castings? Do you keep worms? If so, what do you feed them? What type of housing etc?


Thank you again for sharing the old school wisdom.
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Hey Rat, can you talk some more about your top dressings and Worm Castings? Do you keep worms? If so, what do you feed them? What type of housing etc?


Thank you again for sharing the old school wisdom.
Your the only one who's stooping by so thank you for that.
I have thought of disappearing because no one seems interested.
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I always felt that i had enough to do and space is limited so i buy my worm castings,
Mostly from hydroponic stores but off and on found peeps that had worm farms mostly for supporting horticulture business that were raising worms to feed their plants.
I look at these castings as the bringer of the microbe life.
Much depends on what the worms are fed.
Also I like to provide old soil humus like Ancient forest for the bacteria they provide.
Plant roots take readily to this WC and humus,i use it as a bed to introduce things that i want my plants to uptake,
I like using Alfalfa 2.5-0.5-2.5 its organic matter provides much in the way of food for the beasties.
I'll use Alfalfa all the way to like 1.5-2 weeks into flower before switching over to KELP.
One must mention that Alfalfa also contains a natural growth hormone called triaconatol it is a fatty acid growth hormone found in alfalfa . . . it is especially good for increasing growth rates during vegetative growth.
It also has many trace elements.
Sometimes when laying down a top dressing i see schools of beasties breaking the soil like fish feeding .Not micro but macro.
I always use WC and humus to mix what i want to introduce using mostly Alfalfa during vegetative cycle then switching over to kelp during flowering.
I mix in what i think i see what the plant is wanting.
I am a firm believer that i am but setting the state and that the plant is truly in charge by releasing hormones and exudes to fulfill it's destiny.
I am working WITH the plant.
I also make tea's and love watering in these dressing.
These tea's have the same thing in most cases as what is in the dressing.
After all i am brewing beasties that like to eat these same things.
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Your the only one who's stooping by so thank you for that.
Hey Ratz...just because we don't post doesn't mean that we aren't watching. I appreciate your old school style so carry on...
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Hello Ratzilla ! Our main problems here are the super high rh due to the almost year long monsoon, and the pests, virus and fongi proliferation that go with it... Well, i almost forgot the law...

Take care and have a great week end !
Having constant high humidity stops much transpiration in that the stomata closes up.
I think lol
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