hemp oil dosage for dog?

have you ever even heard of someone curing their bone cancer by ingesting cannabis?

i haven't..

and to say no other plant even comes close just seems a really naive statement what with 3000-5000 years of chinese and ayuravedic medicine curing people of different conditions and cancers with various herbs.. they like to smoke a fair bit of hash in india and around that region and it is possibly where the ganja we know was first bred but they never thought to use it to cure cancers, seems strange dont you think?

yeah of course you are partially right it has been shown to have those effects but not on all cancers and with highly variable success rate depending on the cause and location..

plus its not like the body will just take it all straight to the cancer once ingested most of it will cycle in the blood until it is cleaned out in your urine,, in humans you could take loads of it but in animals you cant really.. or maybe you can its up to the owner at the end of the day they are responsible for the animal.. do it if you want but dont put your hopes on that alone..

Not off the top of my head? I'll have to google around & see?
It all depends if the cancer cells retain their cb receptors or not? A few uber rare ones don't.
I know it's looking really promising for Leukemia? Aren't they similar? blood & bone cancers?

Anyway, on the pet thing. Worst case scenario... you'll get some extra quality time.

Chef and Lost in a Sea,

Thank you both so much for your valuable input. My wife and I both understand that this may all be in vain. We decided to not take the traditional route of amputation and chemo since we couldn't stand to have him spend half of his time left recovering from the surgery and sick from the toxic drugs. Besides the $$$ cost while we're still supporting kids with college, cars and cell phones. We'll know when the time is right to let him go with dignity. We won't prolong his time to selfishly hold on to him.

We do have a good friend who is an ayurvedic doctor (actually close to finishing) that wants to help any way she can. I know another person who is studying chinese medicine that I still need to contact. We've done a lot of research on canine diet about raw foods and the need to remove grains from his diet. Though we know most of this may only benefit the next dog.

If the least the oil does is to help him sleep at night, then i'll keep giving it to him. If it helps keep it from advancing into other areas such as the lungs and liver and he's still kickin' come summer time, we still may opt for amputation of the leg. If for some miraculous way the tumor begins to shrink, I will become one of the most vocal persons for removal of marijuana from the class 1 list that you can find. But that's likely just a daydream.......

Blessings.

My coonhound came up lame (wobbly in the hind end) about a week back. Took him to the vet and the vet said he was having a bad day from from his hip displaysia...even though he did the knuckle test and my boy failed it...I knew what was up.

The vet flat out lied to me with a straight face...lets give him a K-laser treatment, he said, I should have stood my ground, but I wanted my boy better...next day I made an appt for him at another vet (been there in the past) and they gave me a proper diagnosis...my boy has a mass growing over his T3-T7 area and they think it is compressing his spinal cord but couldn't be sure without a MRI.

Now even though they gave me a proper diagnosis, they still tried to shovel me to U.C. Davis to have an MRI (3-5K cost) and then comes the surgery at a cost of minimum 6K. Now I can't speak for everyone, but I just don't have 8-11K just laying around and if I did I still don't think I would put my boy through the hell he would go through with the kind of invasive surgery that would be needed to remove the mass. and not to mention the transport cost and the hotel cost to be near him and most of all...the HIGH price of STRESS he would feel being away from home.

We decided to take an alternative route, we chose to treat him with cannabis. its been seven days since he became lame, it has been three days since we started his treatment. It appears as though the mass is already starting to shrink, we decided to treat it aggressively with Keif, we give him .20 of a gram three times daily via ingestion...this will keep him relaxed and resting while the cannabis has time to do what it needs to do, to repair his body.

Anyways bro, not to hijack your thread, just wanted you to know there are more of us out there who see the medical benefits of cannabis for our four-legged buddies.

Here is a great read, and believe it or not its from a gov site...

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/patient/page1/AllPages/Print

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Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®)
Patient Version
Last Modified: 01/18/2013
Table of Contents

Overview


Questions and Answers About Cannabis


Current Clinical Trials


Changes to This Summary (01/18/2013)


General CAM Information


Evaluation of CAM Approaches


Questions to Ask Your Health Care Provider About CAM


To Learn More About CAM


About PDQ


Overview

Cannabis , also known as marijuana, is a plant grown in many parts of the world (see Question 1).

The use of Cannabis for medicinal purposes dates back to ancient times (see Question 3).

By federal law, possessing Cannabis is illegal in the United States (see Question 1).

In the United States, Cannabis is a controlled substance that requires special licensing for its use (see Question 1 and Question 3).

Cannabinoids are active chemicals in Cannabis that cause drug -like effects throughout the body, including the central nervous system and the immune system (see Question 2).

Cannabinoids can be taken by mouth, inhaled, or sprayed under the tongue (see Question 5).

Cannabis and cannabinoids have been studied in the laboratory and the clinic for relief of pain, nausea and vomiting, anxiety, and loss of appetite (see Question 6 and Question 7).

Cannabis and cannabinoids may have benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies (see Question 7).

Two cannabinoids (dronabinol and nabilone) are approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the prevention or treatment of chemotherapy -related nausea and vomiting (see Question 7 and Question 10).

Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory and to affect the immune system. However, there is no evidence that Cannabis' effects on the immune system help the body fight cancer (see Question 6).

At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy (see Question 7).

Cannabis is not approved by the FDA for use as a cancer treatment (see Question 9).

Questions and Answers About Cannabis

What is Cannabis?

Cannabis , also known as marijuana, is a plant from Central Asia that is grown in many parts of the world today. In the United States, it is a controlled substance and has been classified as a Schedule I agent (a drug with increased potential for abuse and no known medical use).

By federal law, possessing Cannabis (marijuana), is illegal in the United States.
What are cannabinoids?

Cannabinoids are active chemicals in Cannabis that cause drug-like effects throughout the body, including the central nervous system and the immune system. They are also known as phytocannabinoids. The main active cannabinoid in Cannabis is delta-9-THC. Another active cannabinoid is cannabidiol, which may relieve pain and lower inflammation without causing the "high" of delta-9-THC.

Cannabinoids may be useful in treating the side effects of cancer and cancer treatment.

Other possible effects of cannabinoids include:
Anti-inflammatory activity.

Blocking cell growth.

Preventing the growth of blood vessels that supply tumors.

Antiviral activity.

What is the history of the medical use of Cannabis?

The use of Cannabis for medicinal purposes dates back at least 3,000 years. It came into use in Western medicine in the 19th century and was said to relieve pain, inflammation, spasms, and convulsions.

In 1937, the U.S. Treasury began taxing Cannabis under the Marijuana Tax Act at one dollar per ounce for medicinal use and one hundred dollars per ounce for recreational use. The American Medical Association (AMA) opposed this regulation of Cannabis and did not want studies of its potential medicinal benefits to be limited. In 1942, Cannabis was removed from the U.S. Pharmacopoeia because of continuing concerns about its safety. In 1951, Congress passed the Boggs Act, which included Cannabis with narcotic drugs for the first time.

Under the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, marijuana was classified as a Schedule I drug. Other Schedule I drugs include heroin, LSD, mescaline, methaqualone, and gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB).

Although Cannabis was not believed to have any medicinal use, the U.S. government distributed it to patients on a case-by-case basis under the Compassionate Use Investigational New Drug (IND) program between 1978 and 1992.

In the past 20 years, researchers have studied how cannabinoids act on the brain and other parts of the body. Cannabinoid receptors (molecules that bind cannabinoids) have been discovered in brain cells and nerve cells in other parts of the body. The presence of cannabinoid receptors on immune system cells suggests that cannabinoids may have a role in immunity.
If Cannabis is illegal, how do some cancer patients in the United States use it?

Though federal law prohibits the use of Cannabis, the table below lists the localities that allow its use for certain medical conditions.
List of Localities That Permit Use of Cannabis for Certain Medical Conditions
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Alaska (AK)
Arizona (AZ)
California (CA)
Colorado (CO)
Connecticut (CT)
District of Columbia (DC)
Delaware (DE)
Hawaii (HI)
Maine (ME)
Montana (MT)
Michigan (MI)
Nevada (NV)
New Jersey (NJ)
New Mexico (NM)
Oregon (OR)
Rhode Island (RI)
Vermont (VT)
Washington (WA)

How is Cannabis administered?

Cannabis may be taken by mouth or may be inhaled. When taken by mouth (in baked products or as an herbal tea), the main psychoactive ingredient in Cannabis (delta-9-THC) is processed by the liver, making an additional psychoactive chemical (a substance that acts on the brain and changes mood or consciousness).

When Cannabis is smoked and inhaled, cannabinoids quickly enter the bloodstream. The additional psychoactive chemical is produced in smaller amounts than when taken by mouth.

A growing number of clinical trials are studying a medicine made from a whole-plant extract of Cannabis that contains specific amounts of cannabinoids. This medicine is sprayed under the tongue.
Have any preclinical (laboratory or animal) studies been conducted using Cannabis or cannabinoids?

Preclinical studies of cannabinoids have investigated the following activities:

Antitumor activity
Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.

A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.

A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.

A laboratory study of cannabidiol in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells.

Stimulating appetite
Many animal studies have shown that delta-9-THC and other cannabinoids stimulate appetite and can increase food intake.

Pain relief
Cannabinoid receptors (molecules that bind cannabinoids) have been studied in the brain, spinal cord, and nerve endings throughout the body to understand their roles in pain relief.

Cannabinoids have been studied for anti-inflammatory effects that may play a role in pain relief.

Have any clinical trials (research studies with people) of Cannabis or cannabinoid use by cancer patients been conducted?

No clinical trials of Cannabis as a treatment for cancer in humans have been found in the CAM on PubMed database maintained by the National Institutes of Health.

Cannabis and cannabinoids have been studied in clinical trials for ways to manage side effects of cancer and cancer therapies, including the following:

Nausea and vomiting
Delta-9-THC taken by mouth: Two cannabinoid drugs approved in the United States are available under the names dronabinol and nabilone. Both dronabinol and nabilone are approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of chemotherapy -related nausea and vomiting in patients who have not responded to standard therapy. Many clinical trials have shown that both dronabinol and nabilone worked as well as or better than some of the weaker FDA-approved drugs to relieve nausea and vomiting. Newer drugs given for chemotherapy-related nausea have not been directly compared with Cannabis or cannabinoids in cancer patients.

Inhaled Cannabis: Three small trials have studied inhaled Cannabis for the treatment of chemotherapy-related nausea and vomiting. Various study methods and chemotherapy agents were used with mixed results. There is not enough information to interpret these findings.

Stimulating appetite
Delta-9-THC taken by mouth: A clinical trial compared delta-9-THC (dronabinol) and a standard drug (megestrol) in patients with advanced cancer and loss of appetite. Results showed that delta-9-THC was not as effective in increasing appetite or weight gain in advanced cancer patients compared with standard therapy. However, a clinical trial of patients with HIV/AIDS and weight loss found that those who took delta-9-THC had increased appetite and stopped losing weight compared with patients who took a placebo.

Inhaled Cannabis: There are no published studies of the effect of inhaled Cannabis on cancer patients with loss of appetite. Studies of healthy people who inhaled Cannabis showed that they consumed more calories, especially high-fat and sweet snacks.

Pain relief
Combining cannabinoids with opioids: In a small study of 21 patients with chronic pain, vaporized Cannabis was added to slow-release oxycodone or morphine and given for five days. Results showed that combining vaporized Cannabis with morphine relieved pain better than morphine alone, while combining vaporized Cannabis with oxycodone did not produce significantly greater pain relief. These findings should be tested in further studies.

Delta-9-THC taken by mouth: Two small clinical trials of oral delta-9-THC showed that it relieved cancer pain. In the first study, patients had good pain relief as well as relief of nausea and vomiting and better appetite. A second study showed that delta-9-THC could be given in doses that gave pain relief comparable to codeine. Higher doses of delta-9-THC were found to be more sedating than codeine. An observational study of nabilone also showed that it relieved cancer pain along with nausea, anxiety, and distress when compared with no treatment. Neither dronabinol nor nabilone is approved by the FDA for pain management.

Whole Cannabis plant extract medicine: A study of a whole-plant extract of Cannabis that contained specific amounts of cannabinoids, which was sprayed under the tongue, found it was effective in patients with advanced cancer whose pain was not relieved by strong opioids alone. This treatment was studied using different doses in a randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial of cancer patients with chronic pain not controlled by opioids. Patients who received the lower doses of cannabinoid spray showed markedly better pain control and less sleep loss compared with patients who received a placebo. Adverse side effects depended on the dose received. Only patients in the high-dose group had adverse side effects that made the treatment less beneficial than the placebo.

Inhaled Cannabis: A study of inhaled Cannabis in patients with HIV -related peripheral neuropathy found better pain control in the Cannabis group than in the placebo group. To date, no clinical trials have studied cannabinoids in the treatment of chemotherapy-related neuropathy in patients with cancer.

Anxiety and sleep
Inhaled Cannabis: A small case series found that patients who inhaled marijuana had improved mood, improved sense of well-being, and less anxiety.

Whole Cannabis plant extract spray: A trial of a whole-plant extract of Cannabis that contained specific amounts of cannabinoids, which was sprayed under the tongue, found that patients had improved sleep quality.

Have any side effects or risks been reported from Cannabis and cannabinoids?

Adverse side effects of cannabinoids may include:
Rapid beating of the heart.

Low blood pressure.

Muscle relaxation.

Bloodshot eyes.

Slowed digestion and movement of food by the stomach and intestines.

Dizziness.

Depression.

Hallucinations.

Paranoia.

Because Cannabis smoke contains many of the same substances as tobacco smoke, there are concerns about how smoked cannabis affects the lungs. A study of over 5,000 men and women without cancer over a period of 20 years found that smoking tobacco was linked with some loss of lung function but that occasional and low use of cannabis was not linked with loss of lung function.

Because use of Cannabis over a long time may have harmful effects on the endocrine and reproductive systems, rates of testicular germ cell tumors (TGCTs) in Cannabis users have been studied. Larger studies that follow patients over time and laboratory studies of cannabinoid receptors in TGCTs are needed to find if there is a link between Cannabis use and a higher risk of TGCTs.

Both Cannabis and cannabinoids may be addictive.

Symptoms of withdrawal from cannabinoids may include:
Irritability.

Trouble sleeping.

Restlessness.

Hot flashes.

Nausea and cramping (rarely occur).

These symptoms are mild compared to withdrawal from opiates and usually lessen after a few days.
Are Cannabis or cannabinoids approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for use as a cancer treatment in the United States?

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved Cannabis or cannabinoids for use as a cancer treatment.
Are Cannabis or cannabinoids approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for use as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy?

Cannabis is not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of any cancer-related symptom or side effect of cancer therapy.

Two cannabinoids (dronabinol and nabilone) are approved by the FDA for the treatment of chemotherapy-related nausea and vomiting in patients who have not responded to standard therapy.

Current Clinical Trials

Check NCI’s list of cancer clinical trials for cancer CAM clinical trials on marijuana, nabilone, dronabinol and nabiximols that are actively enrolling patients.

General information about clinical trials is available from the NCI Web site.
Changes to This Summary (01/18/2013)

The PDQ cancer information summaries are reviewed regularly and updated as new information becomes available. This section describes the latest changes made to this summary as of the date above.

Changes were made to this summary to match those made to the health professional version.

In writing Cancer Information Summaries, PDQ Editorial Boards review current evidence. They do not make recommendations or develop guidelines. Their work is editorially independent of the National Cancer Institute (NCI). This summary on Cannabis and cannabinoids does not represent a policy statement of NCI or NIH. The summary statement represents an independent review of the literature; that review is not influenced by NCI or any other federal agency.
General CAM Information

Complementary and alternative medicine (CAM)—also referred to as integrative medicine—includes a broad range of healing philosophies, approaches, and therapies. A therapy is generally called complementary when it is used in addition to conventional treatments; it is often called alternative when it is used instead of conventional treatment. (Conventional treatments are those that are widely accepted and practiced by the mainstream medical community.) Depending on how they are used, some therapies can be considered either complementary or alternative. Complementary and alternative therapies are used in an effort to prevent illness, reduce stress, prevent or reduce side effects and symptoms, or control or cure disease.

Unlike conventional treatments for cancer, complementary and alternative therapies are often not covered by insurance companies. Patients should check with their insurance provider to find out about coverage for complementary and alternative therapies.

Cancer patients considering complementary and alternative therapies should discuss this decision with their doctor, nurse, or pharmacist as they would any therapeutic approach, because some complementary and alternative therapies may interfere with their standard treatment or may be harmful when used with conventional treatment.
Evaluation of CAM Approaches

It is important that the same rigorous scientific evaluation used to assess conventional approaches be used to evaluate CAM therapies. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) are sponsoring a number of clinical trials (research studies) at medical centers to evaluate CAM therapies for cancer.

Conventional approaches to cancer treatment have generally been studied for safety and effectiveness through a rigorous scientific process that includes clinical trials with large numbers of patients. Less is known about the safety and effectiveness of complementary and alternative methods. Few CAM therapies have undergone rigorous evaluation. A small number of CAM therapies originally considered to be purely alternative approaches are finding a place in cancer treatment—not as cures, but as complementary therapies that may help patients feel better and recover faster. One example is acupuncture. According to a panel of experts at a National Institutes of Health (NIH) Consensus Conference in November 1997, acupuncture has been found to be effective in the management of chemotherapy-associated nausea and vomiting and in controlling pain associated with surgery. In contrast, some approaches, such as the use of laetrile, have been studied and found ineffective or potentially harmful.

The NCI Best Case Series Program, which was started in 1991, is one way CAM approaches that are being used in practice are being investigated. The program is overseen by the NCI’s Office of Cancer Complementary and Alternative Medicine (OCCAM). Health care professionals who offer alternative cancer therapies submit their patients’ medical records and related materials to OCCAM. OCCAM conducts a critical review of the materials and develops follow-up research strategies for approaches deemed to warrant NCI-initiated research.
Questions to Ask Your Health Care Provider About CAM

When considering complementary and alternative therapies, patients should ask their health care provider the following questions:

What side effects can be expected?
What are the risks associated with this therapy?
Do the known benefits outweigh the risks?
What benefits can be expected from this therapy?
Will the therapy interfere with conventional treatment?
Is this therapy part of a clinical trial?
If so, who is sponsoring the trial?
Will the therapy be covered by health insurance?

To Learn More About CAM

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CAM on PubMed

NCCAM and the NIH National Library of Medicine (NLM) jointly developed CAM on PubMed, a free and easy-to-use search tool for finding CAM-related journal citations. As a subset of the NLM's PubMed bibliographic database, CAM on PubMed features more than 230,000 references and abstracts for CAM-related articles from scientific journals. This database also provides links to the Web sites of over 1,800 journals, allowing users to view full-text articles. (A subscription or other fee may be required to access full-text articles.) CAM on PubMed is available through the NCCAM Web site. It can also be accessed through NLM PubMed bibliographic database by selecting the "Limits" tab and choosing "Complementary Medicine" as a subset.

Office of Cancer Complementary and Alternative Medicine

The NCI Office of Cancer Complementary and Alternative Medicine (OCCAM) coordinates the activities of the NCI in the area of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM). OCCAM supports CAM cancer research and provides information about cancer-related CAM to health providers and the general public via the NCI Web site.

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cancer.gov said:

At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy (see Question 7).

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You lying rat bastards!

Were this ANY other drug/chemical... there wouldn't be any of this b.s. going on. Any big pharma company out there that came up with something that worked even half as well as cannabis... would easily be able to get it approved and make a profit.

Period.


You know it, I know it and they know it.

Stay Safe!

very mean feeding a dog ganja

fuckin asshole

Hi everyone. Got a cat drunk once. Having a big party and one of the lads thought it would be funny to mix some bourbon with milk. Well she lapped it up and was looking for more so we gave her another bowl. This cat was now quite drunk. Was stumbling around like an intoxicated alcoholic. Shortly after, I went into the room and had a few bongs. While i was doing this one of the boys mixed some milk with lawnmower gasoline. Unbeknown to me.! This poor feline went crazy! It was flying around the house at great knots. Jumping over the couch. Trying to climb walls. Then suddenly, she just stopped....Poor lil bugger. She'd ran out of fuel!

That's an old joke i've been carrying around for about 30 odd years. I'm sure some of the Aussies have heard it before. I love animals of all shapes and sizes and would never hurt 1.
I've never got any of my dogs stoned. I think she would freak out if she got stoned and it would break my heart to see that. She looks at me for asurity, love and security.

Thanks

You guys need to back off. Your understanding of cannabis and dogs is flawed and there's no harm being done to them.

Yes, dosing your dog irresponsibly is irresponsible, not advocating that in any way. Properly medicating your dog is relief and life... not something offensive as you believe.

Freak out if they got stoned. *sigh* What are YOU smoking?

Stay Safe!

Aeroguerilla said:

very mean feeding a dog ganja

fuckin asshole

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Wow I guess you would me rather give my best friend something like rimadyl that would kill his liver or kidney function...instead of the all mighty powerful wonder plant "CANNABIS"...you my friend are quite the asshole...

If it is done in the right context it is very beneficial to the dog...

Hi Hydro-Soil, maybe freaking out was the wrong choice of words. I just don't think she'd understand what's going on and she would be scared and confused. It's probably different with other dogs. She's an emotionally needy little girl when it comes to me and i think i know her better than i know myself sometimes. We spent a good few years in the front of a truck together. That's just how i feel when it comes to my dog. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks so they say

Hey TK...

Had a lot of experience with cannabis and animals... they would be fine, unless you did something dumb like dose them heavily and walk away. Even then they'll be fine... just maybe less trusting of the next 'blob' you send their way. *shrug*

Appearances are not fact. Regardless of how you think the animal is doing... they're fine. Animals have no problems dealing with the effects of cannabis and show NO undesireable side effects once the cannabis has worn off. You're more likely to see an improvement in them in various ways than anything unwanted. Certainly not anything 'bad'(tm).

Stay Safe!

Thanks Hydro-Soil, I'm probably a little bit set in my ways sometimes i suppose but i have taken your advice on board. Maybe when she gets older and starts to deteriorate i'll look back on this topic. I am open to knew idea. I just need to remember that!
Thanks mate.

my German shepherd almost died the other day from snatching a batch of brownies off the counter... out cold non responsive for 12+ hours... comatose... yes real responsible to feed your dog ganja... even more responsible to leave a batch of ganja brownies on the table when you think your dog is trained well enough!! yes i know i am the asshole but still you should NOT be feeding your dog ganja

it doesnt react with them like it reacts with us. talk to my ganja friendly vet she will tell you.

we have been feeding the old overweight lab cookies now for 3 months and after he keeps throwing the shit up we decided to stop.

Aeroguerilla said:

my German shepherd almost died the other day from snatching a batch of brownies off the counter... out cold non responsive for 12+ hours... comatose... yes real responsible to feed your dog ganja... even more responsible to leave a batch of ganja brownies on the table when you think your dog is trained well enough!! yes i know i am the asshole but still you should NOT be feeding your dog ganja

it doesnt react with them like it reacts with us. talk to my ganja friendly vet she will tell you.

we have been feeding the old overweight lab cookies now for 3 months and after he keeps throwing the shit up we decided to stop.

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I've done a lot of research on cannabis and cancer, if I can save my boy the natural way and give him better quality of life then that is the best I can do for him...

In regards to your dog, Brownies usually contain chocolate and that my man is what got to your dog...you should have used Hydrogen Peroxide and induced vomiting to get the chocolate up...

hope all is well with your K9 friend...

GL

http://www.vetguru.com/2012/02/16/marijuana-dog/


personally i wouldnt give a dog any for ingestion isnt good .everything has a purpose in life n not everything is good for everyone [people n animals] moderation n understanding the truth ...

Grass Lands said:

I've done a lot of research on cannabis and cancer, if I can save my boy the natural way and give him better quality of life then that is the best I can do for him...

In regards to your dog, Brownies usually contain chocolate and that my man is what got to your dog...you should have used Hydrogen Peroxide and induced vomiting to get the chocolate up...

hope all is well with your K9 friend...

GL

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no deal bro my k9s have eaten whole chocolate cakes before and have been just fine. Ive had 2 incidents where the dogs accidentally got into the ganja butter and then the brownies. trust me you should not be feeding your dog ganja. fuckin straight cruelty mang.. my shepherds are my best friends and id NEVER purposely give them ganja after seeing what it does to them.

my wife was sneaking our 10 year old lab cookie cuz hes hurting bad and she would rather give him ganja then asprin. well after picking up multiple piles of vomit we have both agreed that the ganja cookies dont fair to well in the dogs tummy. must be the cookies right bro?

do what you wish its your dog but i personally would never feed the dog anything with thc.

well dogs do definitely find theobromine toxic in sufficient quantities, it is a xanthine and affects the CNS.. the cacao plants latin name is theobroma cacao..

cannabis is more advisable to feed dogs that chocolate.. though something weak in cacao powder will often do little more than make them loose the next day..

chocolate cake? brownies? who's the asshole? lol

oh yeah, it's the cannabis...

y'all really need to get out more...

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/07/coming_soon_a_medical_pot_patc.php
http://www.companioncannabis.com/

ThirstyKenny said:

Thanks Hydro-Soil, I'm probably a little bit set in my ways sometimes i suppose but i have taken your advice on board. Maybe when she gets older and starts to deteriorate i'll look back on this topic. I am open to knew idea. I just need to remember that!
Thanks mate.

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Remember that cannabis is a neuroprotectant and that dogs that are 'less firm' or 'skittish' or other 'not quite the same as other dogs in the head' will benefit greatly from cannabis.

Good for you for looking out for her.

Aeroguerrilla said:

my German shepherd almost died the other day from snatching a batch of brownies off the counter...

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Uhh... no they didn't. Period. Unless there was too much toxic cocoa in it.

Shame on you for allowing your dog to do that. You either need to train your best friend better or be more responsible.

Aeroguerrilla said:

out cold non responsive for 12+ hours... comatose...

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Yeah? So what? You see this as a danger? Were you an even bigger asshole by leaving them to themselves or did you make sure they were comfortable and knew you were around?

Aeroguerrilla said:

it doesnt react with them like it reacts with us. talk to my ganja friendly vet she will tell you.

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Your vet is wrong. *shrug* Yes... massive doses to the point the dog is wobbly and weirded out is to be avoided. Gentle doses, building up to medicinal levels is not. You and your vet need re-training... that's all.

Aeroguerrilla said:

we have been feeding the old overweight lab cookies now for 3 months and after he keeps throwing the shit up we decided to stop.

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WTF are you feeding a dog cookies for? Ignorance piled on ignorance... dose the dog, don't give it crap that's bad for it. Damn!


So... to those reading this thread, dose your dog responsibly. Try to avoid that wobbly point by keeping the doses small and ramping up the strength over time.

Don't leave your dog unattended when they've been overdosed and Do NOT feed your dog human food with cannabis in it. Especially not chocolate.



Stay Safe!