If they where not breaking any laws why where they shutdown? I know they are going after anyone that is suspected of tax evasion
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Harborside San Jose---CLOSED
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damn man i was looking forward to getting some more oil from them
monkeysee
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I seriously doubt it. Most will just sit around and mumble some shit. A few will turn up with posters on sticks.
you are still fear mongering...cooley cant touch harborisde oakland because they generate way too much cash revenue for the cash strapped alameda county...
dont worry HHC oakland is still open...San Jose is about 40 minutes down the freeway in a conservative district...and i heard their selection wasnt as good
haha yea probably...with the lack of support behind 19 its no surprise...people in the 18-29 generation are fucking lazy..with the exception a few
David762
Member
Cui Bono
Cui Bono
Follow the money.
I think this is a bigger issue than just a reactionary conservative backlash against the California cannabis community in the wake of the defeat of Prop 19. As California goes, so eventually goes the nation.
Real conservatives would champion States Rights, and individual rights & civil liberties without government meddling. And real conservatives would also favor much needed new revenue streams into the coffers of local & state government. Many of the grassroots Tea Party, the Libertarians, and left-of-center political parties like the Green Party are in concordance with ending government prohibition & persecution.
The people responsible for this backlash, from the local to State to Federal level, then, have espoused a tyrannical police state mentality that would not only suborn the wishes of the electorate (seen in the blatant efforts to intimidate voters regarding Prop 19), but also extraordinary and unlawful means to negate current established State law. Forget the labels of "Democrat" or "Republican" that would otherwise conceal their true nature -- that of fascists (in the true meaning of the word).
Fascism, or National Socialism, is epitomized as Crony Corporate Interests in control of government. An alliance of these special interests, from Law Enforcement, Private For-Profit Prisons, Big Pharma, Alcohol Industry, Big Tobacco, Paper/Lumber Interests, the Plastics & Petroleum Industries, and even (and especially) religious fundamentalists all have "skin" in the suppression of cannabis re-legalization.
But there is one industry group with an almost unlimited flow of cash to corrupt the rule of law & our politicians & our system of justice, have a history of having done so, and with the will to do whatever it takes to impose their will -- the international drug cartels. And unfortunately, certain segments of the USA's infrastructure, namely our National Intelligence apparatus and our bankers, have demonstrated a repeated propensity to ally themselves with these drug traffickers.
No wonder that cannabis re-legalization, and the larger issues of individual rights and civil liberties, are finding such a difficult struggle against the enemies of our democratic republic.
Cui Bono
Follow the money.
I think this is a bigger issue than just a reactionary conservative backlash against the California cannabis community in the wake of the defeat of Prop 19. As California goes, so eventually goes the nation.
Real conservatives would champion States Rights, and individual rights & civil liberties without government meddling. And real conservatives would also favor much needed new revenue streams into the coffers of local & state government. Many of the grassroots Tea Party, the Libertarians, and left-of-center political parties like the Green Party are in concordance with ending government prohibition & persecution.
The people responsible for this backlash, from the local to State to Federal level, then, have espoused a tyrannical police state mentality that would not only suborn the wishes of the electorate (seen in the blatant efforts to intimidate voters regarding Prop 19), but also extraordinary and unlawful means to negate current established State law. Forget the labels of "Democrat" or "Republican" that would otherwise conceal their true nature -- that of fascists (in the true meaning of the word).
Fascism, or National Socialism, is epitomized as Crony Corporate Interests in control of government. An alliance of these special interests, from Law Enforcement, Private For-Profit Prisons, Big Pharma, Alcohol Industry, Big Tobacco, Paper/Lumber Interests, the Plastics & Petroleum Industries, and even (and especially) religious fundamentalists all have "skin" in the suppression of cannabis re-legalization.
But there is one industry group with an almost unlimited flow of cash to corrupt the rule of law & our politicians & our system of justice, have a history of having done so, and with the will to do whatever it takes to impose their will -- the international drug cartels. And unfortunately, certain segments of the USA's infrastructure, namely our National Intelligence apparatus and our bankers, have demonstrated a repeated propensity to ally themselves with these drug traffickers.
No wonder that cannabis re-legalization, and the larger issues of individual rights and civil liberties, are finding such a difficult struggle against the enemies of our democratic republic.
I really hope these raids stop and don't become a pattern. Though, I am concerned with the no-passage of 19, we are about to see more of this. It would be sad if all dispensaries were gone in the next couple of months.
hahahha how fucking delusional are you? thats like saying norcal growers dont get busted because they are too vital to their broke economy. prosecutors, DAs, feds... they could give a fuck. your just another drug dealing criminal in their eyes and the bigger the better. nobody is safe. you cancall it fear mongering, but its not. its experience. you just got into town brother. ive watched 215 develop since day 1. i know CA and i know how these things tend to turn out. it seems to me like all you anti-19 mmj supporters just shot yourself in the foot by not realizing how much of the attention would have been taken off 215 courtesy of 19. but thats most of your guys' problem, you think too small frame...too short term.
hole in the wall dispensaries that operate like straight drug dealing storefronts will be at risk...but i highly doubt HHC oakland is gonna get any heat. they contribute way too much to the local community, they have counccil members and even cops on their jock, they put most of their profits right back into the city of oakland...no judge or jury will do anything to them.
if they do get raided though...holy shit. that is gonna shake shit up fr sure..it will be back to the war.....with most of the people of california against an already broke and fragile infustructure in california
if they do get raided though...holy shit. that is gonna shake shit up fr sure..it will be back to the war.....with most of the people of california against an already broke and fragile infustructure in california
war? hahahah you keep saying this shit. war. riots. none of that will happend. they serve over 10,000 patients. but if they get raided... maybe 30,40...100 people will show up at most to protest. nothing will arise from it. nobody will be taking up arms. nobody will riot. a few people, maybe a megaphone, and most likely it wont even make the news.
should have voted yes on 19....
PS: this isnt about how "legal" you are. cooley has already said 215 doesnt allow for ANY dispensaries. and anyone who accepts money in exchange for mj is violating the law. rather your a church, donate to charities, run as a non-profit. none of that shit matters. hole-in-the-walls are less at risk because theres not much money in the bust. as opposed to hhc who carries ALOT of product and money. its all a numbers game. and they get to keep all they confiscate. why would they want the person making 10k a day compared tothe giant whos making 50-100k a day?
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Funny yet sad.
The idea of starting to protest now, AFTER the prop 19 vote to fight for these things to become more normalized. A prop full of holes, but the only one with a fighting chance. Some said settle for this prop, and potentially reap the benefits of a more accepting society + tourist economy - some said don't go for it because it would let some bad people get control of the market, big business etc.
I really hope the swing from this does NOT bite you guys in the ass, but I do know that ultimately, this allows for more acceptance of club shut downs. Dispensaries who aren't operating in compliance will always be at risk and vulnerable to shut downs. Once the legal, honest guys start getting put away, THEN we have a reason to worry... Its not fear mongering - sometimes like an ex girlfriend, you give her an inch and she'll take a mile.
sometimes operators are given verbal warnings
cease and desist orders are common
if you ignore the warnings, then comes the raid/s
thats how its gone down a few times in my experience
another time they just showed up unannounced. right when we were about to start trimming...
because charges havent yet been filed yet im not going to disclose the name of the club who's warehouse grow was being raided as i drove up to help harvest.
i have friends who were/are dispensary operators that have been contacted & raided (and some even held in federal custody for MONTHS). i consider myself lucky that i haven't...
i have friends who were/are dispensary operators that have been contacted & raided (and some even held in federal custody for MONTHS). i consider myself lucky that i haven't...
statusquo
Member
Hahaha people are so quick to throw out this term 'fear monger' on these boards recently. It's not fear mongering. He is making a rational supposition based on facts; just because it doesn't agree with your line of reasoning (why don't you provide that; merely stating that San Jose is a traditionally conservative county isn't enough evidence IMO). Cooley was voted in. 19 was shot down. Raids have happened all over CA in our history. I think they (gov/conservatives) want to keep the CURRENT DOWNWARD MOMENTUM going. I find it amusing that the bud community is still so positive in CA when we just got fisted. Cooley = bad for med patients. No 19 = bad for everyone (except small time commercial growers).
Heard that Angel's got raided. Apparently the sentiment is that they were making a "profit", which is ridiculous because all the clubs do. However they are supposed to be reinvesting that as non profits do, or not drawing it into personal accounts(besides standard pay) So we'll see when the details come out.
http://calpotnews.com/medical-marij...are-collective-raided-on-suspicion-of-profit/
Harborside was telling people not to come in and vend.
Not sure about much else.
This is about Harborside San Jose, so unless you have info try and not clutter the thread, with useless prop19 nonsense.
Heard that because of the recent elections. Leadership which disapproved of the clubs and 215 moved against them on their way out. Not sure about this. Don't really follow San Jose politics.
http://calpotnews.com/medical-marij...are-collective-raided-on-suspicion-of-profit/
Harborside was telling people not to come in and vend.
Not sure about much else.
This is about Harborside San Jose, so unless you have info try and not clutter the thread, with useless prop19 nonsense.
Heard that because of the recent elections. Leadership which disapproved of the clubs and 215 moved against them on their way out. Not sure about this. Don't really follow San Jose politics.
these idiot cops are doing nothing but drive more people to the black market. they wanna shut the legal clubs down? fuck it let them...plenty of growers/dealers willing to step in and fill the void...
status- san jose is definately more consertative in their outlooks, moreso the government and police than the people. in SF, our court system and police dont give a rats ass about weed...but in San Jose you can only arrest so many drunken gang bangers before the cops get bored and decide to go after MMJ..not surprising. its gonna be interesting to see what clubs get raided in the coming months...
status- san jose is definately more consertative in their outlooks, moreso the government and police than the people. in SF, our court system and police dont give a rats ass about weed...but in San Jose you can only arrest so many drunken gang bangers before the cops get bored and decide to go after MMJ..not surprising. its gonna be interesting to see what clubs get raided in the coming months...
Unfortunatly, this is one of those situations in when I hate being right...
55% of Californians just chimed in they were in favor of raiding weed heads.
45% of Californians just lost a chance to have freedom.
45% of Californians just lost a chance to have freedom.
