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Cannabologist said:

But what has monsanto ACTUALLY done??? References to FAKE news (interesting that is coming up again) don't count, such as false stories about farmers killing themselves, and basically every other anti-monsanto thing you can find on the internet or in a fake documentary. 99% is all lies (probably 100%), and made up by people looking to profit off an easy target firstly, and secondly because they are involved in the organics food industry or environmentalist greenie hippie industry.

Even the stuff about agent orange monsanto can't be held accountable for, when it was USA government officials who misused their pesticides. How is monsanto to blame when monsanto wasn't there, didn't do it, apply it, and wouldn't tell you to spray as the usa military did?

WHY? They don't look kindly because they aren't at the forefront and making the best products in all the stores, not just one store? Why should the makers of a product be limited, and thus limiting all of us, the consumers, why should we all be limited by you and what you think is so odd or out of custom?? Do you think a few people with a few acres can provide the best quality, and enough product, to all the customers who may potentially need that product?

Sorry there isn't shwig going around by the lbs anymore to supply people with crap product covered in cides and bugs and seeds BUT well there is this high grade lab tested indoor and greenhouse usa grown that is pretty rad and you can find the same product consistently in every state... Shit once other countries and the world legalize you will find them everywhere. I will be able to get my favorite tried and true tested products anywhere just as any candy bar or coke. God Bless America.

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I don't need high grade lab tested weed bud. I've been growing my own for near 30 years and doing just fine.
Also, I have quietly sat on the sidelines all these years , having no part of the internet of weed, breeding and growing and toking clean, quality unadulterated extracts and bud..... without the help of labs or genetic research and on and on.

I'll respect your opinion and beliefs, but you also must also afford me the same respect.
we disagree, big deal, and I'll grow, breed and do just fine without a lab in my pocket, that I can guarantee.

Now I want patent clones for my collection.

troutman said:

I get a weird feeling TT won't be buying any Big Pharma weed anytime soon.

He's a seed whore like me.

BTW:

1. I don't think it would be easy enforcing patents of cannabis strains anyway.
2. People grow illegally all over the World.
3. Do you think they'll worry about patent laws?
4. $20 says those strains will be hacked the minute they get into illegal growers possession anyways.

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This is what the patenting amounts to in an extremely generalized sense..

Creator (C) makes a Product (P), and licenses that P to a licensee (L). L takes that P and sells that product against the license agreement.

The agreement could be anything between the 2 parties, such as, say something like this;

You are licensed 100 clones of P XYX and can flower those out and sell those products you create but you can't keep and make clones or seeds for your own production.

You are licensed this clone and can make 10000 clones of it and grow those products and sell, after which you must destroy any mother clones and additional clones made not for direction production.

You are licensed this clone and may pollinate 1000 plants to produce seed stock which you own.

You are licensed this clone so we may enter into an agreement whereby we can cross our clone strains, produce seeds, and each party sell those seeds with a fair compensation going to both parties as per the agreement, ie. 50/50 split of revenue, 30/70, etc., etc.

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If you think the door doesn't swing WIDE open for all of us... Well, I guess some of us, who are ahead of the game, and thinking business, to create products and be legally protected to make money off those products, well, it doesn't entirety, but it's a huge huge help.

You'll worry about a patent law if you are stealing someone's product and they nail you with a lawsuit, and you don't have the money/a crack legal team to fight it, especially if you are guilty, which is likely the case since why would they bring the suit.

A grower in their house wouldn't have access to such strains. Do you have access to grow Cavendish bananas as a licensed grower? Course not and you never will. You can buy banana seeds and go ROFL, "pheno hunting" for bananas and that proven banana tree clone. Good luck! Spend 40+ years and millions of dollars hunting for that perfect clone.. And then, you can license that clone to nurseries and growers, or simply sell it someone who will do that leg work and you can sit on the pile of cash from life's hard work.

You wonder why breeders who spend, literally, lifetimes and family generations, and millions of dollars, making tried and tested true products that we all eat and that are the staple of functioning society, want to protect their products and also, you know, get paid for their work+investment.

I guess you believe people should spend all their time, life, and money, working hard and doing real, awesome things, and then just give them to you. Maybe I'm misjudging, but this attitude if you have it is highly.. Stupid.

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Unfortunately for any dumb moron hippie communists out there who forget history and like to try and say "that wasn't REALLLLL (insert stupid political persuasion here) MANN"... Well, you're not only TOTALLY wrong, but there is ALL of human history to prove that dog shit idea of communist, marxist, hippy dippy tree hugging give everything away to me while you do all the work attitude incorrect.

Tynehead Tom said:

I don't need high grade lab tested weed bud. I've been growing my own for near 30 years and doing just fine.
Also, I have quietly sat on the sidelines all these years , having no part of the internet of weed, breeding and growing and toking clean, quality unadulterated extracts and bud..... without the help of labs or genetic research and on and on.

I'll respect your opinion and beliefs, but you also must also afford me the same respect.
we disagree, big deal, and I'll grow, breed and do just fine without a lab in my pocket, that I can guarantee.

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Wellp! People, the public consumer, doesn't care about your basement weed and doesn't want your untested, unproven bud! I mean, maybe.. But my prediction is its going to get harder and harder I imagine. It isn't like that already isn't the case..

You have been doing just fine because you don't have to compete with a legitimate, legal market. I wish you luck in your endeavors


You act like using a lab to have your pot's chemical composition tested, and then breeding and selecting for better pot based on that, is a BAD thing.. Or somehow NEFARIOUS or EVIL.. ROFL EVIL LAB TESTED WEED!!


WATCH OUT! THIS WEED'S BEEN TESTED IN A LAB! SATAN WIPED HIS ASS ALL OVER IT!

I don't think you understand HOW labs work and WHAT they do... Your ignorance is SILLY... And why I am trying to help you get over this stupid paranoid friend

You keep missing the point I'm trying to help you with, and I will try and drag people across the goal line here because the problem is, the biggest problem(s) is/are... Unless you are retiring soon.. You are going to be retired by legal weed.

Thats A..

B... You know guys like you, (and me), who maintain clones for long periods of times, and save old seeds, and keep the best genetics... You're ahead here!!! You should be at the forefront here! You're gonna lose your strains.. YOUR LEGACY!

YOUR PLANTS ARE YOUR LEGACY.... DON'T YOU SEE WHAT I AM TELLING YOU??

YOU will be long dead friend.. You're clones may never die>>> Your babies CAN live forever.

HOW are you gonna do that?

You're gonna trust those kids in their basement to care about YOUR baby like you (especially once you are gone?)... Or guys who have long lasting companies who always hire the top scientists and growers, who you can enter agreements with that even after you are dead, are legally binding. And history will also hold your name, even if they fuck around. I don't know who selected Red Delicious Apples and built the brand, but I could look it up, and God Bless them too! Since Red Delicious Apples will always be bought and sold until kingdom come.

You don't want to be the Red Delicious Apple guy of weed??

Cause uh... I sure do!

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If what I am saying about patenting, about building a brand and a product that survives forever, your legacy, isn't making sense... Or you don't care.. Well then okay..

But I hope this is starting to sink in for some growers. You've done not only a lot of work, you've done ALL the work... And that's right, DON'T let people who haven't, but who are smart in business, acquire these things because they legally can, and then they built a legacy ON your hard work, because they were there first, and dared to be different.

You need to be first, and different. The beauty and pride and dream of cannabis is that she is different. Can always be different. But you have to be different first!



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Now I want patent clones for my collection.

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You couldn't if you had sold them or given them away to others, or likewise were a gift. If they were from seeds you selected you could. Additionally I am sure the patent office will not issue patents on cannabis clones that have been made into (black/grey market) products and sold prior to being patented (say give away or sell the bud or extract, would disqualify you from patent status)............ I'm not a patent lawyer, so check all applicable laws and a lawyer on that.

ALSO... Patenting strains for yourself is stupid, and costly... WHY?? Who cares? You aren't trying to bring a product to a market in a legitimate way. You aren't under any threat from people who would want your IP, trust me. You could do it, and spend the money, but it would be a waste of money.

Which is actually how it stands right now for patented cannabis strains.. Due to the nature of the game, and lack of interstate legality, a patent is not very useful - you still can't bring your clone across state lines, indeed with a patent and if you do actually do such, say sell licensed strains in CA and CO, IF, of course if, the Federal (or I guess a state gov too), if the feds wanted to fuck you.. OH YEAH they reallllly could now, and they'd have a real good bit of evidence if they were so smart enough and and shitty enough to do such investigatin. Shit you'd have it on paper that you were fucking across state lines. They'll nail you. Unless you have some kind of clout as a major company or relations or something.. But as it stands, no one does... GW pharma can't send clones out of the UK.. The Israel group? They can't ship clones. WELL! HHeh.. I say all that with caveat.. They could, you could.. You'd have to get approval from the authorities in question, say in this case your own government and the government where you are sending the products to. You could actually get approval from the DEA in this instance, it is possible, but you'd have to have clout, reasons, lawyers, a company, etc., but it could happen... It happens in certain ways, not typically with clone plants would be difficult for the DEA or a government to approve depending who it is. Seeds, and other cannabis based products yes. For example Canada has an active industrial hemp program and they get their varieties from Europe.


This also only pertains to high THC cannabis and the country in question being USA... There has been licensing out of industrial hemp, ie low THC cannabis strains in seed form to many growers both over Europe, Canada, and now the USA.. I am unaware actually of the plant variety protection status of any industrial hemp strains. They would not fall under US patent law, but Plant Variety Protection. So I say licensing I really should say and mean selling, I do not know if they are officially licensed.. I assume so, since they are tried and tested products. I should look that up.. Meow someone else do it and prove me wrong or right or something lol I got other work to do! Yay!
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A good analogy of what legal herb will look like can be found within the wine industry.

Patented grape cultivars etc...

But it will take a long time and many heated threads in these forums before the whole 'naturalnews education' many here have starts to fade into the obscurity it deserves...

Who has time for discussions with those types of people though? Only when too bored to be bothered lol...

best thing we can do is NOT EVER PURCHASE ANY BIG COMPANY GROWN MARIJUANA. Whether it be Seeds or bud or a prerolled packs of philip morris joints.

If we can do that big companies will loose money, then loose interest. Pharma maybe the only one to excel with life saving drugs.

You can buy a burger from mcdonalds for a $1, or goto a craft burger place for $8-$12. Who do you think has a healthier an better tasting burger? There will always be room for us.

Cannabologist said:

But what has monsanto ACTUALLY done??? References to FAKE news (interesting that is coming up again) don't count, such as false stories about farmers killing themselves, and basically every other anti-monsanto thing you can find on the internet or in a fake documentary. 99% is all lies (probably 100%), and made up by people looking to profit off an easy target firstly, and secondly because they are involved in the organics food industry or environmentalist greenie hippie industry.

Even the stuff about agent orange monsanto can't be held accountable for, when it was USA government officials who misused their pesticides. How is monsanto to blame when monsanto wasn't there, didn't do it, apply it, and wouldn't tell you to spray as the usa military did?

WHY? They don't look kindly because they aren't at the forefront and making the best products in all the stores, not just one store? Why should the makers of a product be limited, and thus limiting all of us, the consumers, why should we all be limited by you and what you think is so odd or out of custom?? Do you think a few people with a few acres can provide the best quality, and enough product, to all the customers who may potentially need that product?

Sorry there isn't shwig going around by the lbs anymore to supply people with crap product covered in cides and bugs and seeds BUT well there is this high grade lab tested indoor and greenhouse usa grown that is pretty rad and you can find the same product consistently in every state... Shit once other countries and the world legalize you will find them everywhere. I will be able to get my favorite tried and true tested products anywhere just as any candy bar or coke. God Bless America.

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You make some excellent points but a homogenized world will be boring as fuck!

personnaly im happy with my seeds collection of high THC, high CBD, 1:1 THC:CBD, high terpenes contents, pure sativa, pure indica, sativa hybrids, indica hybrids, so all the colonialist terrorist genocidal israeli people and all the patents guys can fuck off nicely

Cannabologist said:

Unfortunately for any dumb moron hippie communists out there who forget history and like to try and say "that wasn't REALLLLL (insert stupid political persuasion here) MANN"... Well, you're not only TOTALLY wrong, but there is ALL of human history to prove that dog shit idea of communist, marxist, hippy dippy tree hugging give everything away to me while you do all the work attitude incorrect.

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Nice ranting, shitty lecture..
You clearly know nothing about the true history of socialism/communism.
You're seemingly not aware that socialism was actually started by rich people, businessmen and bankers, (=not hippies, you dumb moron) and it was actually aimed at the royalty and aristocracy who didn't do any work themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Henri_de_Rouvroy,_comte_de_Saint-Simon


Maybe Antony Sutton can lecture about Soviet-communism and how European and American financiers and businessmen who funded Lenin, Trotsky and co. to over-throw the Tsarist regime.
Bankers Love Socialism -- Professor Antony Sutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8


Ford Motors, General Electric, Westinghouse, Standard Oil, JP Morgan, Rockefellers had a big role in building up the Soviet Union.
Did you know that the first train/locomotive built in Soviet Union was actually a Russian designed train
..but then the next trains were General Electric's model!!
GE also provided them with hydroelectric turbines/plants.


You have prolly also missed the fact that Ford built the Gorki plant and alot of Soviet military vehicles were built on these lines provided by Ford.
..and so on and so on


BTW, im not a commie or socialist myself. I just love to correct arrogant and ignorant muppets like you

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How can you claim Monsanto is legit, when the animals-studies they have done lasted only 90 days??
http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/animal-safety-assessment.aspx

I thnk rats live around two years, around 600 days, so i'm sure you understand it's bunk-science to claim their products are OK for humans for their whole life.


What do you think about the Seralini et al study done with Monsanto's GM-corn?http://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-014-0014-5


Nice tumors!! ...really healthy stuff that GM-corn from Monsanto!!

Fake news, ay.

Another "fake news blip" according to sources including Snopes. Maybe he dreamt it...still food for fodder.....

Nice tumors!! ...really healthy stuff that GM-corn from Monsanto!!

Some health practitioners call it the "Franken-grain". Not too far fetched. Corn, soy, cotton, canola, ....and the list continues.

Anyway, real news, fake news....plant patents for whatever reason is inevitable. I just hope it's for a worthy cause.

Cannabologist said:

Wellp! People, the public consumer, doesn't care about your basement weed and doesn't want your untested, unproven bud! I mean, maybe.. But my prediction is its going to get harder and harder I imagine. It isn't like that already isn't the case..

You have been doing just fine because you don't have to compete with a legitimate, legal market. I wish you luck in your endeavors


You act like using a lab to have your pot's chemical composition tested, and then breeding and selecting for better pot based on that, is a BAD thing.. Or somehow NEFARIOUS or EVIL.. ROFL EVIL LAB TESTED WEED!!


WATCH OUT! THIS WEED'S BEEN TESTED IN A LAB! SATAN WIPED HIS ASS ALL OVER IT!

I don't think you understand HOW labs work and WHAT they do... Your ignorance is SILLY... And why I am trying to help you get over this stupid paranoid friend

You keep missing the point I'm trying to help you with, and I will try and drag people across the goal line here because the problem is, the biggest problem(s) is/are... Unless you are retiring soon.. You are going to be retired by legal weed.

Thats A..

B... You know guys like you, (and me), who maintain clones for long periods of times, and save old seeds, and keep the best genetics... You're ahead here!!! You should be at the forefront here! You're gonna lose your strains.. YOUR LEGACY!

YOUR PLANTS ARE YOUR LEGACY.... DON'T YOU SEE WHAT I AM TELLING YOU??

YOU will be long dead friend.. You're clones may never die>>> Your babies CAN live forever.

HOW are you gonna do that?

You're gonna trust those kids in their basement to care about YOUR baby like you (especially once you are gone?)... Or guys who have long lasting companies who always hire the top scientists and growers, who you can enter agreements with that even after you are dead, are legally binding. And history will also hold your name, even if they fuck around. I don't know who selected Red Delicious Apples and built the brand, but I could look it up, and God Bless them too! Since Red Delicious Apples will always be bought and sold until kingdom come.

You don't want to be the Red Delicious Apple guy of weed??

Cause uh... I sure do!

....

If what I am saying about patenting, about building a brand and a product that survives forever, your legacy, isn't making sense... Or you don't care.. Well then okay..

But I hope this is starting to sink in for some growers. You've done not only a lot of work, you've done ALL the work... And that's right, DON'T let people who haven't, but who are smart in business, acquire these things because they legally can, and then they built a legacy ON your hard work, because they were there first, and dared to be different.

You need to be first, and different. The beauty and pride and dream of cannabis is that she is different. Can always be different. But you have to be different first!



[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] You couldn't if you had sold them or given them away to others, or likewise were a gift. If they were from seeds you selected you could. Additionally I am sure the patent office will not issue patents on cannabis clones that have been made into (black/grey market) products and sold prior to being patented (say give away or sell the bud or extract, would disqualify you from patent status)............ I'm not a patent lawyer, so check all applicable laws and a lawyer on that.

ALSO... Patenting strains for yourself is stupid, and costly... WHY?? Who cares? You aren't trying to bring a product to a market in a legitimate way. You aren't under any threat from people who would want your IP, trust me. You could do it, and spend the money, but it would be a waste of money.

Which is actually how it stands right now for patented cannabis strains.. Due to the nature of the game, and lack of interstate legality, a patent is not very useful - you still can't bring your clone across state lines, indeed with a patent and if you do actually do such, say sell licensed strains in CA and CO, IF, of course if, the Federal (or I guess a state gov too), if the feds wanted to fuck you.. OH YEAH they reallllly could now, and they'd have a real good bit of evidence if they were so smart enough and and shitty enough to do such investigatin. Shit you'd have it on paper that you were fucking across state lines. They'll nail you. Unless you have some kind of clout as a major company or relations or something.. But as it stands, no one does... GW pharma can't send clones out of the UK.. The Israel group? They can't ship clones. WELL! HHeh.. I say all that with caveat.. They could, you could.. You'd have to get approval from the authorities in question, say in this case your own government and the government where you are sending the products to. You could actually get approval from the DEA in this instance, it is possible, but you'd have to have clout, reasons, lawyers, a company, etc., but it could happen... It happens in certain ways, not typically with clone plants would be difficult for the DEA or a government to approve depending who it is. Seeds, and other cannabis based products yes. For example Canada has an active industrial hemp program and they get their varieties from Europe.


This also only pertains to high THC cannabis and the country in question being USA... There has been licensing out of industrial hemp, ie low THC cannabis strains in seed form to many growers both over Europe, Canada, and now the USA.. I am unaware actually of the plant variety protection status of any industrial hemp strains. They would not fall under US patent law, but Plant Variety Protection. So I say licensing I really should say and mean selling, I do not know if they are officially licensed.. I assume so, since they are tried and tested products. I should look that up.. Meow someone else do it and prove me wrong or right or something lol I got other work to do! Yay!
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i suppose all this drivel would matter to someone who sells weed.
I gave that up years ago and made my money thru my various employment. Successfull enough in life that I retired at 45.... heck just bought another house..... and like the last one.... no basement for growing that schwag LOL
I don't have any financial need or desire to be part of the coming legalization other than to be free to grow, breed and smoke what I grow without interference from government or Big cannabis or patent jockeys looking to capitalize on the glorious plant.

we will overgrow you guys to if need be

PHYLOS FTW...

The Phylos project is for the express purpose of placing cannabis cultivars in the public domain such that they cannot be patented.

No plant, variety, cultivar that is already publicly documented can be legally patented/protected.

GoatCheese said:

Nice ranting, shitty lecture..
You clearly know nothing about the true history of socialism/communism.
You're seemingly not aware that socialism was actually started by rich people, businessmen and bankers, (=not hippies, you dumb moron) and it was actually aimed at the royalty and aristocracy who didn't do any work themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Henri_de_Rouvroy,_comte_de_Saint-Simon


Maybe Antony Sutton can lecture about Soviet-communism and how European and American financiers and businessmen who funded Lenin, Trotsky and co. to over-throw the Tsarist regime.
Bankers Love Socialism -- Professor Antony Sutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8


Ford Motors, General Electric, Westinghouse, Standard Oil, JP Morgan, Rockefellers had a big role in building up the Soviet Union.
Did you know that the first train/locomotive built in Soviet Union was actually a Russian designed train
..but then the next trains were General Electric's model!!
GE also provided them with hydroelectric turbines/plants.


You have prolly also missed the fact that Ford built the Gorki plant and alot of Soviet military vehicles were built on these lines provided by Ford.
..and so on and so on


BTW, im not a commie or socialist myself. I just love to correct arrogant and ignorant muppets like you

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How can you claim Monsanto is legit, when the animals-studies they have done lasted only 90 days??
http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/animal-safety-assessment.aspx

I thnk rats live around two years, around 600 days, so i'm sure you understand it's bunk-science to claim their products are OK for humans for their whole life.


What do you think about the Seralini et al study done with Monsanto's GM-corn?http://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-014-0014-5


Nice tumors!! ...really healthy stuff that GM-corn from Monsanto!!

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Fake news, ay.

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Crappy post, troll harder. Don't care about hippy dippy ideas of stealing all the stuff from the people who work hard... Like companies who yes, sold governments their inventions. Lots of inventors and companies sell their products to governments. Money is money

Do you read the links you post up?

http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/animal-safety-assessment.aspx

The animal performance assessment includes a standard 42-day broiler study on chickens and a 90-day rat feeding study. 42-Day Broiler Study on Chickens At this stage, Monsanto scientists study the development and size of the animal as it’s fed the product with the new gene inserted. Why chickens? Chicken grow very quickly and have been bred so selectively for fast growth that any irregularity in the nutrients would cause an adverse growth rate. 90-Day Rat Feeding Study In addition to the growth and development testing in the broiler chicken study, we also conduct a 90-day rat feeding study with most products, which is a toxicology study. A toxicology study determines if a new product has undesirable effects on the health or physiology of the animals that might predict adverse effects for humans. The 90-day toxicology study can include more than a hundred different assessments on things such as blood chemistries, tissue pathology and organ weights. To date, no commercialized biotech products have ever been associated with an actual hazard to humans or animals. Continued introduction of biotech products will be subjected to the same thorough testing and analysis done by not only Monsanto scientists, but also many others around the world to ensure only products that are as safe as their conventional counterparts will ever make it to market.

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How can you claim Monsanto is legit, when the animals-studies they have done lasted only 90 days??

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Suffice to say, this is not an attack on your person, it's simply obvious, you are just ignorant, and likely crazy

What do you think about the Seralini et al study done with Monsanto's GM-corn?http://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-014-0014-5 Nice tumors!! ...really healthy stuff that GM-corn from Monsanto!!

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And here you talk about fake news lolololol..

Yep.. Fake news.. From FAKE scientists. Who have been debunked. You should really stop posting GARBAGE friend, and google some stuff before you post LIES..

If you took FIVE seconds doing BASIC research, you would know that study is bullshit, and has been debunked over and over.

Those rats are a specially bred line of rats, bred to get cancer buffoon... You could feed those rats anything and they will get cancer.. No one conducts studies in the unethical manner that fake scientist conducted them in. Mistreating animals, even laboratory animals, is a crime. You clearly have no idea what you are babbling about.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mon...&bih=767&ei=QzV5WOaEGpDgUozVo9gC&start=0&sa=N
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/study-linking-genetically-modified-corn-to-cancer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Séralini_affair
This is another fraud claiming crap about gmos...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusztai_affair

Suffice to say, as a biologist, the fears of people who claim XYZ about GMOs or commonly available herbicides/pesticides, IS SQUAT!!! OMG morons who know dick about biology, genetics, the law, agricultural production, pesticides, and you know, other matters grown ups can take care of, really need to stfu and let the adults handle it.

I suggest schooling, research. Research, not fake research from fake websites promoting pseudoscience

best thing we can do is NOT EVER PURCHASE ANY BIG COMPANY GROWN MARIJUANA. Whether it be Seeds or bud or a prerolled packs of philip morris joints.

If we can do that big companies will loose money, then loose interest. Pharma maybe the only one to excel with life saving drugs.

You can buy a burger from mcdonalds for a $1, or goto a craft burger place for $8-$12. Who do you think has a healthier an better tasting burger? There will always be room for us.

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Big company grown?? You mean like all the big seed companies?? The guys who have big grows and have made bank selling you seeds??? THESE ARE THE BIG COMPANIES!!!

It's like... Jesus christ.. You guys have no clue who or what you are talking about. You attack and condemn people so far outside of the weed game.. While you don't see the people you are actually reviling are the very people you buy from..

Who do you buy your lights and nutes from??

Who do you buy fans from? Mylar? LoL???

Sheesh.

MJPassion said:

You make some excellent points but a homogenized world will be boring as fuck!

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You really think it will get homogenized? LOL I almost think it's already homogenized with all the glues and ogs kushs and chems around, heh I mean only the glues and ogs and yadda around. all the same highs, and flavors...

COmeon we can do better! We know we have better! You think with the myrad of flavors and experiences with cannabis, it will become homogenized? This is far from likely. People will want the same flavors in low and high THC. And they will still want flower as extracts and edibles, without spiked terpenes being added in... This will more and more become a big product point of course! Not many leading yet here in marketing ;-D

MJPassion said:

PHYLOS FTW...

The Phylos project is for the express purpose of placing cannabis cultivars in the public domain such that they cannot be patented.

No plant, variety, cultivar that is already publicly documented can be legally patented/protected.

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That's only good for that personal cultivar.. So, congrats! You can't patent your seed/clone.. Good on you??? >.. I don't know the accomplishment of this, other than you kinda fuck yourself in the future... It's kinda cool to see the relationships between your specific cultivars and varieties versus the greater pedigree of cannabis cultivars and varieties tested for.... But really, we already kinda know if you just trace lineage, or are good with knowing terpenes or other traits.... I know for some reason people seem to care about these things, but really, it is worthless knowledge and time could (should) be spent on actual productive things or knowledge. Its like treehuggers who fight over global warming. LOL I was one of those. But I also, like, you know, did shit to try and stop it, or more truthfully, did things that actually protect habitat and conserve plant and animal species from human inclusion and impacts. What I found as being real environmentalism. Take it from someone who spent lots of time learning lots of useless and incorrect knowledge and spent lots of research in all of those regards figuring all those things out. Heh. Time wasted not jacking it/sexing/drugging/rocking out/making LOOT... Though I do like walking around parks and conservation areas in different states knowing "heh, okay. I helped make this happen, and I guess that's pretty cool".

Some for the Glories of This World; and some Sigh for the Prophet's Paradise to come; Ah, take the Cash, and let the Promise go, Nor heed the rumble of a distant Drum!

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FUCK!!

I shoulda took the cash.
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Baaaaah-haaah!
You just keep on showing you're out of it.
You have swallowed disinformation about Monsanto and their bull shit-animal studies, dummy.
..Now, type "fake" few more times.


Seralini’s team wins defamation and forgery court cases on GMO and pesticide research
http://www.gmoseralini.org/seralinis-team-wins-defamation-and-forgery-court-cases-on-gmo-and-pesticide-research/
"On 25 November 2015, the High Court of Paris indicted Marc Fellous, former chairman of France’s Biomolecular Engineering Commission, for “forgery” and “the use of forgery”, in a libel trial that he lost to Prof Gilles-Eric Séralini. The Biomolecular Engineering Commission has authorised many GM crops for consumption."


Yea, do some reseach..

Ps.
No comment on the communism lecture i gave you? Well, it's off topic anyways. Bitch

in the end this topic is a good one to discuss. There is no denying what is to come.
Industrializing the cannabis plant is innevitable.
In some ways i can see industry needing to go this way as we unlock the plants properties and find new and previously unfound ways to use those properties. However, as we see all over the globe, Industry is ruining the very fabric of the human existence and every industrialist has a bevy of scientists who support thier methods or practices.

what i wanna know is..... what other handle does canabologist post under here? you sure you aren't a well know seed breeder? and no I don't mean skunkman but the posting style and construct give you away.

Canabiologist, you really don't know what you are talking about with all that intemperate ranting.

In order to patent a plant some unique quality must be added by a human. Natural plants are not patentable. Mostly due to its illegal status nationally and internationally ALL Cannabis plants are not patentable. The door is only barely beginning to open for legally protected varieties. All of our seeds and clones, including those still on vendors shelves are not patentable. Somebody in a legal environment must add something "novel" for a new variety to obtain legal protection.

Some of that will no doubt happen once legalization becomes the norm but there won't be much money in it in my opinion. Cannabis is a tremendously genetically diverse species like apples. But with Cannabis that diversity still manages to produce useful products unlike the disappointing results produced by most apple trees grown from seed.

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You really think it will get homogenized? LOL I almost think it's already homogenized with all the glues and ogs kushs and chems around, heh I mean only the glues and ogs and yadda around. all the same highs, and flavors...

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G ` day Cbiol

I think those strains may be popular in the US .
The rest of the world not so much . Spain Critical Mass and Morocc Hash. Cambodia Lemon Sk , Thailand Laos Sativa brick weed , France / Belgium / Holland Amnesia , Brazil Crippy .

Also there are many , many people working land races from the 4 corners of the globe .

They just don`t post on IC .

Thanks for sharin

EB .