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CO2 MYTH BUSTED

LyryC

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CO2 myth busted: Why we need more carbon dioxide to grow food and forests
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

www.facebook.com/Citizens.Action.Network

(NaturalNews) If you talk to the global warming crowd, carbon dioxide -- CO2 -- is the enemy of mankind. Any and all creation of CO2 is bad for the planet, we're told, and its production must be strictly limited in order to save the world.

But what if that wasn't true? What if CO2 were actually a planet-saving nutrient that could multiply food production rates and feed the world more nutritious, healthy plants?

CO2 is a vital nutrient for food crops
As it turns out, CO2 is desperately needed by food crops, and right now there is a severe shortage of CO2 on the planet compared to what would be optimum for plants. Greenhouse operators are actually buying carbon dioxide and injecting it into their greenhouses in order to maximize plant growth.

The science on this is irrefutable. As just one example, the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture and Food says:

CO2 increases productivity through improved plant growth and vigour. Some ways in which productivity is increased by CO2 include earlier flowering, higher fruit yields, reduced bud abortion in roses, improved stem strength and flower size. Growers should regard CO2 as a nutrient.

If you want to understand why CO2 is an essential nutrient for food crop growth, check out this informative slide show. It explains that "CO2 may be repidly depleted during crop production" daylight hours, because the plants pull all the CO2 out of the air and use it in photosynthesis.

The CO2 found in modern-day atmosphere is 340ppm. But food crops would grow far faster if the concentration of CO2 were closer to 1000ppm, or roughly 300% higher than current levels. In fact, most greenhouse plant production causes a "CO2 depletion" to happen, shutting down photosynthesis and limiting food production. As the "Carbon Dioxide in Greenhouses" fact sheet explains:

Ambient CO2 level in outside air is about 340 ppm by volume. All plants grow well at this level but as CO2 levels are raised by 1,000 ppm photosynthesis increases proportionately resulting in more sugars and carbohydrates available for plant growth. Any actively growing crop in a tightly clad greenhouse with little or no ventilation can readily reduce the CO2 level during the day to as low as 200 ppm.

Thus, greenhouse plants are "running out" of CO2. They are starving for it. And when you add it to food crops, you get higher yields, improved taste, shorter flowering times, enhanced pest resistance and other benefits.

Why we should pump carbon dioxide into greenhouses
This brings up an obvious answer for what to do with all the CO2 produced by power plants, office buildings and even fitness centers where people exhale vast quantities of CO2. The answer is to build adjacent greenhouses and pump the CO2 into the greenhouses.

Every coal-fired power plant, in other words, should have a vast array of greenhouses surrounding it. Most of what you see emitted from power plant smokestacks is water vapor and CO2, both essential nutrients for rapid growth of food crops. By diverting carbon dioxide and water into greenhouses, the problem of emissions is instantly solved because the plants update the CO2 and use it for photosynthesis, thus "sequestering" the CO2 while rapidly growing food crops. It also happens to produce oxygen as a "waste product" which can be released into the atmosphere, (slightly) upping the oxygen level of the air we breathe.

This is a brilliant solution because humans want to live on a world with low CO2 that supports frozen ice caps in order to keep ocean water levels low, but they want to eat a volume of food that requires high CO2 for production. The answer is to concentrate CO2 into greenhouses where food production is multiplied by CO2 nutrition.

I'll bet you've never heard Al Gore talk about CO2 as "nutrition." He declares it a pollutant and wants to tax you for producing it. But CO2 is actually a key nutritive gas for food crops. Without carbon dioxide, we would all have starved to death by now.

Shutting down power plants to destroy America's power infrastructure
The U.S. government's solution to power plant emissions, however, is to just shut down coal-fired power plants, causing rolling blackouts across the USA, especially during hot summer days. The EPA has forced hundreds of power plants to shut down across the USA, achieving a loss of power infrastructure that vastly exceeds what would even be possible by an enemy invasion of high-altitude warplanes dropping bombs.

The EPA, under the excuse of "saving the planet," is destroying America's power infrastructure and leading our nation into a third-world scenario where power availability is dicey and unsustained. It seems to be just one part of the overall plan to gut America's economy, offshore millions of jobs, put everybody on welfare and destroy small businesses.

But what if we harnessed coal-fired power plants instead of shutting them down? What if we used them as "CO2 generators" that fed CO2 into vast greenhouse operations that produced organic, high-growth foods that could feed the nation? Coal-fired power plants can produce both electricity and food nutrition at the same time.

Better yet, if you combine this concept with aquaponics, you get simultaneous production of plants and fish while using no soil, no GMOs and one-tenth the water of conventional agriculture.

See, the solutions to all our problems already exist. The only reason we are suffering as a nation is because political puppets try to brainwash us into believing complete falsehoods like, "carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant" or "the people don't need healthy foods; they need medications and vaccines." When societies believe falsehoods, they crumble and collapse.

That's where America is headed, of course. And it's all being accelerated by deceptive bureaucrats who want to convince you that growing real food is bad and we should all be punished for exhaling carbon dioxide, an essential nutrient for food crops. Carbon dioxide is not the enemy it's been made out to be. It's actually plant nutrition that helps regrow rainforests, food crops and wetlands. In fact, higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere would make the planet more lush and abundant in terms of plant life, forests, trees and food crops.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039720_carbon_dioxide_myths_plant_nutrition.html#ixzz2PDRXoQUi — with Daniel Divine.

SPREAD THE NEWS PLEASE :thank you:
 

GMT

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CO2 is a greenhouse gas. That doesn't mean it belongs in greenhouses!
yes plants need CO2. Yes it is used to increase the productivity of plants. No that is not an answer to combat the CO2 problem. CO2 causes a rise in the temperature of our atmosphere. We do not have anywhere near enough greenhouses to pump it all in there lol. The vast majority of food is grown outdoors, not in massive greenhouses. If CO2 emissions are not combated, then not only will we die, but all the plants too as the temperature will rise to levels that they can't survive in. Then there isn't even any oxygen being produced to fuel the evolution of a new species, we simply end up with a dead planet. This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's simply the way things work.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...2-isnt-the-most-important-greenhouse-gas.html
 
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lost in a sea

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i'm sick of the co2 ending the world bullshit.. it's idiocy and idiots indulge and spew it around thinking they are saving the world and flying the flag of modern progressive magic science..

co2 will kill us all!!

well then why hasnt it in the past when concentrations have been massively higher?

mans output of co2 barely compares to that of global volcanism, and co2 barely compares in terms of the "greenhouse effect", aka trapping heat, to clouds..

its misplaced backwards use of selective theories that have been worked on for hundreds of years to get people to a point where they will buy this garbage,, climate change is completely 100% natural but it isnt caused by man, depending on your measurement of time..

you know there have been jungles and deserts in the antarctic?

that almost every part of the earth has seen almost every kind of climate??

did our antecedents die out then?

it's nonsense, the co2 levels go down as well as up depending on volcanic activity,, we are insignificant little ants rubbing our chins vainly as though we can control the elements on that scale.. a delusion, a fiction more fake and dumbed down than mickey mouse..

science tells you you are god and that you must die for it, you control too much, you do too much, pollute too much, breed too much.. big headed atheistic ego worship sadomasochistic apathetic nihilist bullshit..

it's a clever "new" form of fascism.. like the church used to do with the literalists by selling them nonsense and telling them to kill and die over it, now "science" does the same..

funny how people that only know the propaganda call themselves scientists, when the definition is basically completely the opposite, to search out all the answers, not just swallow the mainstream shite straight away..

but you see everyone gets a 10 minute introduction to climatology on the BBC or CBS and suddenly think they are educated to the point where they can go around repeating that crap, feeling like their shit smells better and they are "really doing something" by whinging away at people about some crap Al gore pitched a tent over one morning..

i would like to see a real scientist anywhere that has staked their career on long term climate change being man made through co2, because few, or none to be precise, will since any scientist worth their salt knwos it's bullshit..

people are being played big time..
 
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GMT

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read the link I posted! I could explain about how the molecular links between the atoms vibrate at certain energy wavelengths but the link uses simple language and explains why mans contribution is significant.
 

lost in a sea

Lifer
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that article (which is all it is btw, not fact) massively plays down the effect of clouds on trapping heat.. it's really badly biased, not scientific, and doesn't add all sorts of anomalies, which doesn't surprise me.. quotes from studies done are from 80-98% of the green house effect is due to water vapour, but it sadly side skirts around that with clever wording..

weather patterns are linked with long term factors related to seasonal heating cooling but all the ocean currents and everything are interlinked and they are changing their positions, which we can see first hand here in the uk with the jetstream's antics in recent years..

with the change in the deep ocean currents driven by weather and salinity comes change in weather patterns and subsequently what we call "climate change".. all the extra freshwater diluting the ocean and the extra energy in the weather system will have far more effect in driving what we call "climate change" than co2..

i've honestly accepted it's the script for the sheeple to walk into the slaughter house over but still it's not even based on any true science, just "popular" science.. the popular hypothesis, that's all it is, barely tested or even quantified.. based on a few decades of narrow minded studies..
 
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GMT

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The new scientist is hardy heat magazine.
Yes water vapour is a much greater source of heating. We know that climate is interlinked across several systems, but that doesn't prevent or mean anything.
Yes fresh water is diluting the salt water, but that fresh water is coming from the polar caps melting. They are melting because its getting warmer. It is getting warmer because the system has evolved to cope with natural co2 emissions, it is in balance with nature because it is natural. What is not natural is the additional co2 that is being released due to man's actions. We are tipping a finely balanced system. There is now more than 25% more co2 in the atmosphere than there has been at any point in mankinds history.
 

lost in a sea

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weather and climate change all the time and they have done so many times since man walked and talked it is unbelievable.. the proof of this is everywhere from antiquity for one and you can find anecdotal proof in all cultures..

some people think this is how it has always been, well they couldn't be more wrong..

evolutionarily 99%+ of all the lifeforms that have ever been are extinct, this is one of the most impoverished times for diversity ever,, every part of the earth has seen every kind of climate from desert to jungle to coral reef to mountain..

things change,,, get used to it..

co2 is insignificant in terms of damage on this earth to almost any pollutant you can think of..

don't blame people, go shout at a volcano because they can release more co2 in a day than man can in 100 years,, and the carbon cycle can use it up again in no time.. we are as a species almost always ignorant of scale and just use assumed maths to prop up theories that we build more maths on top..

your falling for mathamagicians tricks..
 

GMT

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well if you're happy for that 99 to turn into 100, I'm not. I don't think anyone who's ever been to school thinks there haven't been ice ages, or that continents havent moved. But since man walked the earth, co2 has never been higher than it is today. All you have to do is read the science to understand it. I hope you don't think there is something coming to save us when we fuck up coz there isn't. If we get it wrong, it's over.
 

lost in a sea

Lifer
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good luck fighting forces that are so beyond your comprehension its staggering..

by any chance do you advocate the thinning of the human population to accomplish this fantastical idea that we can decrease it in time to stop the dreaded "climate change" ?

because if you do i think you agree with the guys that came up with using co2 to subjugate people even more..

still if you want to believe that then fine but others have every right to tell you its a pile of shit and you have no right to tell them that if they fuck it up "its over" because it's hypothesis and always will be and there is no getting around it, science isnt absolutism lest it becomes a religion (which it already is because it demands faith, like your faith here)..

you want to pay carbon tax do you?

fresh air tax?

fresh water tax?

will that save the world? more taxation? will honda prius's or nissan leaf's save the world?

will the corporations that released the co2 and made all the money from it save the world and grow forests if we buy into their bullshit "green" pyramid scheme? driving the latest "green" car as though you are saving the world whilst doing fuck all..

no..

the problems that will end it all are varied and complex and aren't being illuminated at all whilst the band wagon goes around conscripting every well meaning liberal fool for the church or climatology..
 

Terroir

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The co2 stuff is all bulldust.

Climate scientists are nothing but a bunch of yes men. They manipulate data to suit their agendas (which are needed to secure more funding)

case point NASA http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/nasas_rubber_ruler.html#ixzz27YZRxqIW

GISS http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/22/how-giss-creates-long-term-antarctic-warming/

The whole climate industry is the biggest scam. How many govt fat cats fly around the world every day on the climate junket. A lot. Climate change is no different to communism, the war on drugs and the war on terror. None were ever a threat to our society yet we pump billions into them.

If you want to look after the environment you start local. Pick up plastic, plant a few trees, ride a bike, dont buy new stuff so often. Grow your own food. Dont flush hydro nutes into sensitive water catchments where a spike of nutrient levels may suck dissolved oxygen from the water etc.
 

GMT

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come back when you've got something reasonable to say and say it in a reasonable way and I'll talk to you.
 

GET MO

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too much co2 in the atmosphere would lead to a runaway greenhouse effect, leaving earth in a similar state as venus. That's actually what they think happened to venus.
 

lost in a sea

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come back when you've got something reasonable to say and say it in a reasonable way and I'll talk to you.

in a word fruitless.. completely fruitless..

still a revolution is coming in the scientific community even if it isnt happening in the streets and you will see one day that you have been duped by people with no affiliation to the truth..

this stuff isnt simple enough for me to converse with you over..
 

high life 45

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Climate change and ice ages are a part of earths cycle.

Not sure if all the cloud seeding is good or bad, but it certainly is not part of the earths cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

(dont call them chem trails, that makes ya a conspiracy theorist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chem_trails

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
If you wanna combat our contribution to GHG (greenhouse gasses) we need to change the way we eat because depending on who you trust 18- 51% of ghg comes from agriculture....specifically livestock.


"In 2010, the United Nations Environment Programme called for the adoption of plant-based eating with the report Assessing the Environmental Impacts of Consumption and Production, in which they identified the overall environmental, including climate change, effects of livestock, including global warming potential and land use
change, as being greater than fossil fuels from coal, natural gas and crude oil."


http://www.unep.org/resourcepanel/documents/pdf/PriorityProductsAndMaterials_Report_Full.pdf


"In 2008, Germany‟s Foodwatch Institute estimat...ed shifting from a conventional diet, including meat and dairy, to a conventionally-raised vegan diet would reduce emissions by 87 percent, while shifting to an organic diet including meat and dairy would only reduce emissions by 8 percent. By contrast, a 100% organic vegan diet would reduce emissions by 94 percent."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,574754,00.html


"In 2008, Carnegie Mellon University compared the emissions from consuming a diet of 100% locally grown food to one of 100% plant-foods, concluding a vegan diet led to a reduction of seven times the emissions of a locally-grown diet because most dietary emissions are in operations, not transportation."

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es702969f


I have been thriving on raw foods for a while personally, I use to eat multiple beef hamburgers and pizza pies everyday, yes I ate multiple pizzas, the WHOLE pie..Will never go back, I FEEL great in a way I never knew possible.

Besides the co2 global warming deal, the less fossil fuels we use the better. We need to get off the dino juice already.

:tiphat:
 

Storm Shadow

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The Global Warming scheme is tied directly to the CARBON TAX which is part of the New World Order This tax will be used to support the NWO Banksters and not be given to poor countries . Agenda21 will use the Global warming to enforce it's policies where by you will be stripped of your private property rights and moved to population centers to cut your Carbon footprint .....

Global Warming is a fraud to defraud you
 

purple_man

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yepp, essentially if the carbon tax drives up energy prices, guess who will benefit from it? the working class ain't it... worst case it will become unaffordable for working/middle class to afford gasoline -> so the wealthy can still keep up foolishness (see dubai/emirates)...

also, check out artificial photosynthesis, seems like panasonic and many others are trying to find workarounds, the question is, will it be affordable for the regular joe?

blessss
ps.: nwo, ain't just coming to a hood near you, they been there for a long time :/
 

LyryC

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LAWL at GMT... Sheep for sure.

Lost at sea, epic words brother, thank you for the well versed insight.

There is hope, lots of awake people these days, and more coming.

Chemtrails are the problem, not CO2, just another distraction like everything else.

Read the posts, except GMT, doofus, and learn a thing or two. Good links 2.
 
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