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Old 05-10-2017, 06:11 AM #1
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Why bother keeping mother plants?

I you've got a mature plant, and have successfully taken a clone, why not put it into flower, grow that clone, and repeat?

Why bother having 1 (grand)mother plant, when you can do that?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, i'm a new grower
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:30 AM #2
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I think its really only useful for people that grow large amounts, often. Combine that with the incorrect belief that a clone of a clone will show genetic issues. If you are growing for personal use, keeping the same mother seems unnecessary.
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You can only begin to appreciate the need for keeping mother plants after you've lost a truly great girl that ticks all the boxes. Lose one like her and the memory will haunt you enough that you're never going to risk losing another girl until after you've already harvested and tested them thoroughly.
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I think its really only useful for people that grow large amounts, often. Combine that with the incorrect belief that a clone of a clone will show genetic issues. If you are growing for personal use, keeping the same mother seems unnecessary.
If you have several cultivars and only run one varietal at a time, mothers help even the smaller setups.
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You can only begin to appreciate the need for keeping mother plants after you've lost a truly great girl that ticks all the boxes. Lose one like her and the memory will haunt you enough that you're never going to risk losing another girl until after you've already harvested and tested them thoroughly.
Makes me wanna cry thinking about it. Damn cops. Don't just take clones, share with dependable growers for insurance.
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I think its really only useful for people that grow large amounts, often. Combine that with the incorrect belief that a clone of a clone will show genetic issues. If you are growing for personal use, keeping the same mother seems unnecessary.
I've actually always wondered if this was true if you keep getting clones from clones and keep doing this of it'll degenerate one thing that has happened to I had a plant from seed and took clones from this seed plant and flowered both the mother and clones and actually the buds on the clones came out different and actually way better but only done this once so Idk but would like insight
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Mothers tend to be for bigger ops, perpetual gardens and SOG grows. It takes a little while before you can get a plant that's going to give you plenty of clones but it's worth it. I've seen giant plants that can give 40+ clones every couple of weeks. Keep 10 like that and you can get 800 clones a month.
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Old 05-10-2017, 04:17 PM #8
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Ahhh...the question which has no wrong answer.

Some suggest that mothers are the only way to go and others (like me)...have discovered you can get across the finish line without them.

I am perpetual grower with half dozen different strains and pull a harvest every 7-10 days...and have zero mothers. Two reasons: Real estate and quality.

First, not having 6 mothers allows me to have about 10 production plants in the same footprint/space...and having an extra 10 plants in veg at all times is a good thing; sometimes that extra few weeks in veg is all it takes for a skinny girl to get fat.

Second, the quality of the clone will vary depending on where the cutting is snipped from the donor plant. Clone candidates sourced from the bottom branches usually have narrow/thinner stems but excel in root development (both in speed and quantity). Now, snip the top 5-6" of a plant and that clone candidate has a fatter stem, newer growth (bottom branches are older growth), more nodes per vertical inch (usually), and broader leafs. Admittedly, the root development for clones from the top seem to lag a bit, but are productive just the same.

This process of sourcing your clones from the top--works great once you have a good quantity of plants in progress. So when I have 5 plants and need 10 cuttings, I take 5 tops, and another 10 or so from the lower/side branches...keeping the best 5 for a total of 10.

I have observed cuttings usually will take on certain attributes from the source plant. Example, if you take a cutting from a super cropped plant, that cutting is more prone to super crop structure. Take a cutting from a wispy weak branch, that cutting will be weaker than normal. Take a cutting from a branch that is prone to have nodes every inch with heavy leaf development, that cutting will probably become your treasured plant.

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Old 05-11-2017, 12:31 AM #9
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Cheers for the info guys, that was very useful.

I've just got a small grow tent with a few plants for personal medicinal use, so I think I'll skip keeping mothers and see what kind of genetic mutations I can come up with
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:39 AM #10
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You do not have to keep "mother" plants if you carefully insure 1-2 rooted clones of those favorite strains prior to flower or while in early flower. Making sure you have at least one clone plant that is healthy will typically prevent the loss of a keeper.
Genetic mutations are unlikely.
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