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Old 07-20-2009, 09:39 PM #2591
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Just wanted to add what little I could:

Listen to Julian. He is not trying to steer you wrong. I am a living testament to the fact that growing as a sole source of income will destroy a person.

I am reclusive, paranoid, depressed, anxious, physically unhealthy and addicted to the lifestyle. Anyone with a martyr/persecution complex or into self-fulfilling prophecies need not apply. It took me a while to figure out how much of that aspect played into my decision making.

Growing will make imaginary monsters real, and then you can turn around and tell everyone "see I told you so". This is what some thrive on. THERE IS NOTHING HOLY ABOUT SELF-DESTRUCTION.

I have been reading this thread and others like it for 3+ years. I have personally said things to Julian about wanting to work with him/someone like him. And no sooner did those words come out my mouth, I didnt follow through.

I have "grown" through the ranks of pitching dime bags, to copping/moving pounds, to competely isolating myself as a (sub-consciously on purpose) sub-par grower/lunatic. All the while, Julian has told me multiple times this is the direction I was heading, but "I knew better than him" and didnt heed all of his advice.

I have watched all of my optimism, social/financial/personal aspirations all but disappear. I now only have time for "fear", truly reverted to the level of an animal (my token animal - the squirrel). Everything is fight or flight, get out, grab a nut, get back before the predators eat you.

The very same thing which was at one time a liberating force, an undertaking which allowed MORE life, has morphed into a ruthless master which continually shortens the list of accepted activities.

Many of you reading this will chalk it up to me being a weak individual. Suffice it to say, I have ALREADY overcome more than most of you reading this will ever even consider having to deal with (real recognize real). Thats not the point.

Strength is NOT the ability to trudge through discomfort and adversity for NO REASON. It is the ability to know WHEN to do WHAT. It is the harmonious outward manifestation of ALL aspects of yourself coming together despite adversity. When any one aspect throws the others under the bus, that is weakness. And it is possible to forget who you are.

In short, I used to have a personality/life + no money, and now I have no personality/life and only enough money to pay rent and eat. Its easier to make money than it is to dig your real self out from under 10 years of pent up anger, aggression, disappointment, and neurotic musings.

All that being said, Id like to let everyone know for as bad as it sounds, I am still confident in my ability to emerge from this. Its just that now the demons are of a different kind. Its much easier to battle the ones from outside than inside. Its easy when your enemies are genuinely external, but JUST WAIT until you search and search and search only to find that "the call is coming from inside the house!"

Don't get it confused, either. This is FAAAAAAAAR from my first breakdown/what is wrong with my life/ what am I going to do? episodes (probably far from the last, as well). Everytime you get through one, you think you will never see it again. "Over-confidence leads to irony" - Aesop Rock

I hate to muck up the thread, but I have gleaned much from it. I want to offer my viewpoint not as another "oh yeah, I did something like that back in the day, blah blah blah" but as an opportunity to see what happens when YOU let things get out of balance.





On a lighter note, Im a couple days away from pulling down what looks like it will be my single most successful harvest ever. The universe has done more than enough for me in terms of constant reassurance and back up. The fact I am free to type this proves such. NOW its MY turn to DO SOMETHING!




P.S. I would love to hear as much as you are willing to share on the topic of your first out/ your struggles against poverty/ your life affirming dates with the AK, etc, Julian.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:51 AM #2592
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not Julian, but its pretty normal Inject to be honest, I know of a lot of growers that keep to themselves mostly, but they do well enough to go to a tropical place for part of the year so its worth it for them..some could say its a hermit lifestyle, then there are guys who are completely careless and tell everyone, but somehow manage to pull down crop year after year. Im not really sure what the best way to deal with relationships and overall feeling that your breaking the law. Wouldn't we all love to be open about what we do with everyone, but its like you can't I don't even know what it is.. its gardening
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:53 AM #2593
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So I saw a 48" auger recently (mounted to heavy machinery)........quite interesting, I must say .......didn't even look at price....I assume one hole and it pays for itself .....

Interesting stuff above.........interesting stuff........actually heavy on my mind lately a lot of it....so all the more......

Split personality?........I think many would find material regarding psychological issues and aspects of long term undercover agents of interest......quite a bit written on the subject......quite a bit......

Many reasons the above weighs heavily on my mind lately......many reasons.....can't really go into specific examples offhand (which is an example in itself ....).....Lately one of my problems is actually decreasing interactions....starting to seem really better if I don't show up around certain places, people......ie: If I am around, someone knows something brewing )....decreasing my appearances........activities. .....

Of course, I don't really talk to anyone I don't know......most of the time.....some see me as rude, and the assortment of things which accompany it......

I actually spend quite a bit of time other places.....mentioned trips last season..(was working on things, but, I always am...)....not enough to be said on all above and a thread in itself.....

Will get to the above when I get a chance/next time.......just stopping in for a few minutes......trying to hustle last minute.......wayy too much work.....still many things to do......still working on lot of things......discussions about next year...new spots.....serious family issues and obligations (always do...24/7/365...just never really mention it cause can't do specifics in any way, shape or form.........)

Did a round 18/6....was talking to someone about it..(actually did it by accident,....was considering doing it, guess didn't change timer......no way more growth than 24/0......fucked up my schedule actually.....no way superior growth....absolutely no way......might contemplate if doing something else to cut down power draw, but......for starts, quick turnarounds?.....nah...absolut ely not....think it added 50% to my turnaround...(instead of 9-10...15, etc........) Actually for the better, as had a delay with some prep somewhere......(but than 24/0's would have been bigger).....

Want to get to the above.......some significant shit........(I think).......

Hope all are doing well......I still have spots supposed to be prepped that aren't yet.....still have couple waiting for a go ahead (and right now coming down to the wire if it's a go......) Have no idea at this point what is where and how many really....figured when finished planting would go over everything and list them and do estimates......really focusing on next things more actually too....right now just on autopilot....and getting a little tired and worn thin.......have really been focusing on larger future things.......since losing best spot....really haven't been pulling what I want.....and enough to cover everyone..(not only my people but their people also....so......in the end....that gross needed is a pretty heavy one and just not hitting it without the really big things........)

Stopped by earlier control plot, but now worthless as several rounds done/being done since then, but somewhat easier to time out now due to season...(control is couple hundred, maybe 3' or so.....actually textbook example of how placement/spacing dictates growth....which is always an interesting study to me....still not sexed yet, so taking it's toll regarding the above.....but not that bad anyway......only a couple spaced pretty tight....maybe like 200 or so spaced 6" or so....but still helping out with othe similar spots that access not easy....
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:56 AM #2594
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Glad to see this thread still going strong.

48" auger sounds nice. I was looking at renting one of those a couple years back. The guys ended up digging the holes by hand, but this thing could have made quick work and probably given us a bigger better hole. Plus, running heavy machinery is fun

What do you think of 2.75" x 24" auger for doing late season minis and using a cordless drill? I tried to search the thread, but the search function has some problems. I have seen larger ones, but they really seem to require a gas powered drill. I want do be nimble with this and this size seems to be pretty perfect.

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Old 07-23-2009, 02:41 AM #2595
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Hey my friend....hope all is well...

I had a lb or 2 or crystals in my hand today and was lecturing someone about it, and told em basically we could fill an entire bathtub to the rim, toss the small amount in and, like, 30 minutes later, would be solid gel (He found easier understanding 2-55 gallon drums....all rough estimates, as ability depends on salt content...highest (48 gallons a lb) to lowest...etc......(actually have been having "fun" per say training those specific individuals lately....going over holes, yields, overviews, spots, amending....lot about patterns of growth as above by spacing and all combined and so on.....)

Minis like anything else...hole is the yield.....so, any and everything helps....could even go 12" or more, but, you know, short, quick...all depends on what you want to do....(Many insist depth not as important as width...from my experience (doing 36" deep holes for last several years)....nah....importance of depth is quick penetration of tap for groundwater, moisture, temps, and so on......if loose......first week or 2 it's going to hit bottom and good to go....jmo...many would disagree....lot of examples though......lot can be found in tree grows also...

Gas powered way to go....(and, even when the case, still not easy sometimes......use even a larger one and you see....larger, more power, fairly quick, but not that easy.....)

Have been going with just tilling things lately when smaller.....tighter spacing......fine line between when to till and when to drill and so on.....depends on lot of things...space, how many, soil, etc, etc..(how you happen to feel......)

Did 3 spots last 24hrs.....went with tilled....(2 tossed down quite a bit, crystals, amendments, nutes and such.......) Nothing too spectacular.....just a couple....maybe 300 per spot give or take or so.....

Just stopped in now.....but want to get to the above still....
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You've inspired me to do several even later runs even though I've started out pretty late as it is (first plants out start of june - been planting here and there through june and july).
Got stuff to go out around tomorrow - more to go out in a week or less - and will also try a forced flower approach with swt#3 clones I took a few days ago when putting my indoor room in flower- hopefully these will root around start of august - then to 12/12 in cups for 2-3 weeks and then out to finish end august.
With a good september those might yield a little bit too.
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Julian, how are your plants holding up in the crazy rain the NE is receiving this year? Lots people are saying that their plants all died cause all rain and no sun.

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I don't go into regional specifics for obvious reasons.

I have spots that have received too much, and some not enough, and some in between, and less affected as worked later this year than from May.....

I think proper planning and execution can remedy all......(I am sure some would disagree, but I am usually doing better than most who would and do.....so much for that....)

My main problems last several years have been either the help, or tipping and splitting issues due to things too heavy and too large, and of course as many, late season moisture issues.....

Excess moisture before first 1/3rd of flowering has never been too much of an issue....


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You've inspired me to do several even later runs even though I've started out pretty late as it is (first plants out start of june - been planting here and there through june and july).
Got stuff to go out around tomorrow - more to go out in a week or less - and will also try a forced flower approach with swt#3 clones I took a few days ago when putting my indoor room in flower- hopefully these will root around start of august - then to 12/12 in cups for 2-3 weeks and then out to finish end august.
Why would you want to force, when putting them out , they will basically begin flower immediately anyway?

Anything out right now is basically going to go shortly.....I would think keeping in, in cups, would only hurt yield...(vs. them going out as soon as ready.....)

June/July not bad.....should still see some bulk to em.....once starts get smaller, and farther into July you see the reduction.....

I've still got things going out....not larger per se...but enough veg on them that if they trigger immediately still going to have some size to them.....(should have been out a week or more ago.....site and scheduling and labor issues for me.....)



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Well, as earlier....and depending on ones situation, personality....behavior, etc, etc....any number of ways to do things, and sure people here conduct themselves the full spectrum.....

I would say keeping both separate a wise choice...not easy to do.....and somewhat tiring.....and, as above....can take it's toll as shown in UC profiles and psych issues.....

Gets harder the further ones takes it.....and most slip on the discipline sooner or later.......hard to maintain anything 100%, day after day, week after week, year after year.....


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not Julian, but its pretty normal Inject to be honest, I know of a lot of growers that keep to themselves mostly, but they do well enough to go to a tropical place for part of the year so its worth it for them..some could say its a hermit lifestyle, then there are guys who are completely careless and tell everyone, but somehow manage to pull down crop year after year. Im not really sure what the best way to deal with relationships and overall feeling that your breaking the law. Wouldn't we all love to be open about what we do with everyone, but its like you can't I don't even know what it is.. its gardening
However one can......whatever way best suits ones personality and lifestyle.....whatever is acceptable......and on and on......(referring to highlighted above).....

Like anything....and all people....most go overboard one direction or another....and finding that happy medium seems a problem for most people in life (with anything in life....I don't even know anyone who can be completely unbiased in a simple conversation...let alone live a balanced life.........)

I sometimes fall to one side or the other....but I try to always keep everything in perspective on a day to day basis..and try to catch myself when leaning too much either way....(sometimes I don't care and think it for the better.....sometimes I realize leaning one way and back off, etc........to me....it's actually a fairly constant balancing act, so.....and actually, it's more specific situations and people which create certain issues......ie: women/relationships watched closer...more careful.......any new people from any direction......family when periods of heavy work, but that's usually the easiest......

Year before last I was using the "work" excuses fairly often, and was running myself ragged to keep up.......ie: "Going to have long work day tomorrow....."....I'm up 3-4am, on the road....on site 8am......working till 6pm.....back on the road and "walking in from long day out" at 11pm, and so on......

Earlier in thread lot of examples and such.......I think best for everyone to keep things as quiet as possible......and always think twice about confiding in anyone about any aspect..........

Majority who know my business are 30 yr people......(people who have known for 30yrs).....then cell approaches......(no one person with complete knowledge)....and on and on.....

Not enough to be said on subject , and a fairly expansive one........





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Just wanted to add what little I could:

Listen to Julian. He is not trying to steer you wrong. I am a living testament to the fact that growing as a sole source of income will destroy a person.
Kind of you to say, and sorry was right........

Growing as sole source covered earlier, and, as you see, covers much more than money.....

Money's always the easy part ....
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I am reclusive, paranoid, depressed, anxious, physically unhealthy and addicted to the lifestyle. Anyone with a martyr/persecution complex or into self-fulfilling prophecies need not apply. It took me a while to figure out how much of that aspect played into my decision making.

Growing will make imaginary monsters real, and then you can turn around and tell everyone "see I told you so". This is what some thrive on. THERE IS NOTHING HOLY ABOUT SELF-DESTRUCTION.

I have been reading this thread and others like it for 3+ years. I have personally said things to Julian about wanting to work with him/someone like him. And no sooner did those words come out my mouth, I didnt follow through.

I have "grown" through the ranks of pitching dime bags, to copping/moving pounds, to competely isolating myself as a (sub-consciously on purpose) sub-par grower/lunatic. All the while, Julian has told me multiple times this is the direction I was heading, but "I knew better than him" and didnt heed all of his advice.

I have watched all of my optimism, social/financial/personal aspirations all but disappear. I now only have time for "fear", truly reverted to the level of an animal (my token animal - the squirrel). Everything is fight or flight, get out, grab a nut, get back before the predators eat you.

The very same thing which was at one time a liberating force, an undertaking which allowed MORE life, has morphed into a ruthless master which continually shortens the list of accepted activities.

Many of you reading this will chalk it up to me being a weak individual. Suffice it to say, I have ALREADY overcome more than most of you reading this will ever even consider having to deal with (real recognize real). Thats not the point.
I think sometimes there is no stronger individual than one who is able to look in mirror and see their faults, issues, problems, and take actions to correct them.....

Mere ability to recognize and address seems to be something not that common at all.........and a never ending supply of such people.....

Spoke of balance earlier......most leaning one way or the other...balance an issue......and I think the more one limits their exposure to many things, people, places......the harder to do (everything else keeping one balanced possibly......)

There are also psychological and social interaction issues when one limits their exposure to.....well....life........

(I think as an income issue also nothing good comes of it.......went through it recently with someone.....job......little this on side, little that on side....keeps them busy, something to do, and of course triple the income they would have if just doing one single thing, so.........
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Strength is NOT the ability to trudge through discomfort and adversity for NO REASON. It is the ability to know WHEN to do WHAT. It is the harmonious outward manifestation of ALL aspects of yourself coming together despite adversity. When any one aspect throws the others under the bus, that is weakness. And it is possible to forget who you are.

In short, I used to have a personality/life + no money, and now I have no personality/life and only enough money to pay rent and eat. Its easier to make money than it is to dig your real self out from under 10 years of pent up anger, aggression, disappointment, and neurotic musings.

All that being said, Id like to let everyone know for as bad as it sounds, I am still confident in my ability to emerge from this. Its just that now the demons are of a different kind. Its much easier to battle the ones from outside than inside. Its easy when your enemies are genuinely external, but JUST WAIT until you search and search and search only to find that "the call is coming from inside the house!"
I think that was all very well said.....and obviously a testament to self awareness.....which as above I think few possess......and even fewer would care even if they had to ability.....
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Don't get it confused, either. This is FAAAAAAAAR from my first breakdown/what is wrong with my life/ what am I going to do? episodes (probably far from the last, as well). Everytime you get through one, you think you will never see it again. "Over-confidence leads to irony" - Aesop Rock
Well, the older you get, the more you realize that it's not a question of whether you will see again, but when you will (which can be taken as motivation in ones life......

I wouldn't call it any of the above....but merely a time of reflection.......greater self awareness which most never have to begin with, so....say what you like man....nothing wrong with that......
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I hate to muck up the thread, but I have gleaned much from it. I want to offer my viewpoint not as another "oh yeah, I did something like that back in the day, blah blah blah" but as an opportunity to see what happens when YOU let things get out of balance.

On a lighter note, Im a couple days away from pulling down what looks like it will be my single most successful harvest ever. The universe has done more than enough for me in terms of constant reassurance and back up. The fact I am free to type this proves such. NOW its MY turn to DO SOMETHING!
Well, congratulations of course on largest to date.......but, what are you going to do with it? (monetarily.....what you've gained spiritually.....knowledge, trial and error, etc....and on and on......combined with the realization of the things above....)

Balance mentioned above......I think few truly live "balanced" lives.......no one I know really does (off the top of my head), and this included 100% legit people, who never even smoked a cigarette......(actually, the more lacking in exposure and experience, the more unbalanced many seem to be )....

100% one way or the other is never a good thing...for anyone...ever.....and I think just takes away from ones life..."experiences".....

I like mention of "the universe".....my life became much easier when I realized I was but "a mere instrument" of "the universe".........ie: we fight, and fight, and work, and work......and never realize we're just pawns of "the universe".......maybe problems are mandatory lessons.......maybe obstacles are for a reason......(I had a bunch of those recently....ie: a reaction to several events, then learning shortly afterwards events were blessings.......a reason for them to my benefit.........I'm much more amused lately in the face of problems, because of course, could find out in 20 minutes the reason for such....

I think everyone has their own ideas and ways of addressing things when they think out of balance....lacking....excess.. .....so....maybe the best solution is seeing ones own issues and thinking what would correct...what the remedy is....my solutions are usually a little more dramatic than necessary ....can't think of an example (well, can....but not doing it now ).....

I think the ability of you to see and realize the above means the ability to correct .....(both of which many might never be able to do in their lifetime.....so, your already ahead of the game.......)

Personally?...for fear issues I usually just break them down and address with logic and reason........could add more but limited with time right now.....
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P.S. I would love to hear as much as you are willing to share on the topic of your first out/ your struggles against poverty/ your life affirming dates with the AK, etc, Julian.
Lot above man........not many situations haven't been.....(good and bad)....and actually right now, doing much worse than most might think......but, is what it is man, ya know?.....nothing that endless work, some creative thinking and some discipline can't cure.......with maybe a pinch of doign things I would rather not........

All of those things above..........they're all temporary situations....

They're all things changed (easily or not) by a change in your mind....(which then becomes a change in action(s), and on and on......

I mean...what I get from the above?...(yours).....is you know and see yourself....(no matter what that might be, good or bad).......

Dude......your already way ahead of the game.....you just have to "wrap it up"...(again, temporary........life will show any given person 1,000+ situations, good and bad.....what varies is how one sees them, addresses them, and uses them......)

At this point in life....for me?.......there is very little that would actually surprise me.....affect me......very little that I wouldn't find something laughable about it.. (no matter how bad it might seem........)

I just added some pretty specific and I thought quite interesting stuff....little personal and specific, but took it out....deleted........

Problems.......we all have many....some quite serious........some severe....

I'd tell anyone take it all as a challenge to see how good you are ...to test yourself....to win......

Refuse to accept otherwise......and see where it takes you

The mind of man......the most powerful force the earth has ever known .....

No limit to how much fun one can have with that ...

Sometimes I see such problems as merely a puzzle to solve ....a "test".......of ones self......

That's why they exist right? ......either die or solve them ...overcome them any way possible.....through any means necessary .......

Spiritually?....I am starting to believe, all put there for a reason, to teach a lesson necessary for "the next level".....(I Ching material earlier......)

(That does not count though problems we ourselves knowingly create(d) though through either actions or none.......majority of all our problems we created.......there's a difference between that which we have, and that which we have not.......)

Through life......at least 70% of my problems (maybe as high as 95%) were ones I created......hence nowadays my behavior.......ie: I know that the decision I make today is the potential problem of tomorrow....

Some stuff on that earlier in thread....some even "funny" per se....
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:28 AM #2599
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Why would you want to force, when putting them out , they will basically begin flower immediately anyway?

Anything out right now is basically going to go shortly.....I would think keeping in, in cups, would only hurt yield...(vs. them going out as soon as ready.....)

June/July not bad.....should still see some bulk to em.....once starts get smaller, and farther into July you see the reduction.....

I've still got things going out....not larger per se...but enough veg on them that if they trigger immediately still going to have some size to them.....(should have been out a week or more ago.....site and scheduling and labor issues for me.....)
I totally follow you and am also considering this. Only thing is that I don't know if the strain will even finish where I'm at (55N) without forcing - that's why I'm also putting out controls that haven't been forced.
Might also put most out as they are, and only do a few forced to see the difference.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:51 PM #2600
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Pouring down rain and thunderstorms recently. Perfect time to get my final 90 minis out. made me think of this thread while in the patch.

Take advantage of this thread guys, so much info here.
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