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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
It’s Easy to be Tricked by a Climate Denier

I was compelled to write this article when my father sent me the book Inconvenient Facts — The Science that Al Gore Doesn’t Want You to Know by Gregory Wrightstone. He said it contained compelling arguments for why climate change is not really a problem and, in fact, demonstrates that we are being misled by a liberal agenda to scare the world into fighting a false threat. My father has an MBA from Harvard, an engineering degree from Cornell, and has been CEO of half a dozen companies. He’s smart, accomplished, and well-read. He’s also an open-minded man willing to adjust his own opinions in light of new information he encounters. Prior to reading this book, he believed that climate change was real, man-made, ...
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igrowone

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wow at greenland

wow at greenland

greenland ice sheet is really melting early this year
quite impressive if i may use that term
this is quite an anomaly, expect more dramatic mainstream news if this persists much longer
 

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Brother Nature

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greenland ice sheet is really melting early this year
quite impressive if i may use that term
this is quite an anomaly, expect more dramatic mainstream news if this persists much longer




It's also exposing a shit ton of US nuclear waste from the cold war, from Project Iceworm. I'm pretty sure Denmark has been stuck with the bill on that one too.
 

igrowone

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It's also exposing a shit ton of US nuclear waste from the cold war, from Project Iceworm. I'm pretty sure Denmark has been stuck with the bill on that one too.
all kinds of stuff is popping out
on everest they're finding old trash and dead bodies from the melting ice
also in europe finding ancient human bodies, animals being exposed from melting glaciers
archaeology wins from global warming, at least in some spots
 
M

moose eater

All things are Yin & Yang.

Saw a bumper sticker in Cyrano's Book Store & Theatre in Anchorage about 24 years ago that read, "Alaskans for Global Warming." it was cute, and we chuckled, as it conveyed what many had come to believe about winter; too long and too cold. The owner of the shop was a visionary to some degree, & was disgusted with its presence in his glass case of display & for-sale items in the lobby, and I was told he eventually gave it away.

I don't miss the 3-6 weeks of steady -30 f. to -60 f. in the winter here. Really. My blood circulation in my hands and feet don't miss it, especially.

But if my energy guru acquaintance is right, I suspect I'll miss, as will others, the necessary levels of oxygen in the water that are needed to support fish and other aquatic life.

The occurrence of red tides in the North Pacific is already notably increased, and the old rule about safely eating shell fish in months with an 'R' in them is out the window altogether, it seems.

I'm in the rolling hills, about 100 to 150 ft. above the river's level a short distance from me. My neighbors to my south are maybe 60-70 ft. lower in elevation, and they received a notice from the Borough, advising them to buy flood insurance!!

I told my energy guru acquaintance, "It figures! I finally get a shot at 'stable' water front property, and by the time it gets here, there'll be no fish in the water to catch!!"

Murphy!!!
 

armedoldhippy

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mowing here 4 weeks earlier than ever. flowers that normally bloom in june already are. in a normal April/early May we have a snow or two instead of multiple 80 degree plus days. turkey hens already sitting on clutches of eggs, gobbling is over. fucked up shit...:moon:
 

Mick

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I live up in the mountains and I've noticed the last couple of warm seasons that the bugs are disappearing. Not long ago the windscreen of your car would be covered in dead ones, but no more. We are in the midst of the 6th Great Extinction and I think I finally get it. Nature, life, is adjusting to the changing circumstances on Earth and we won't be immune. Finally admitted to myself that humanity probably won't make it out of this century and this knowledge was kind of liberating. No more hoping for a miracle, just enjoying it while it's here, while I'm here. I'm thinking that Life doesn't have to be perfect to be a blast.
 

kickarse

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You should visit here Mick, we got endless bugs, then again we are just having normal weather, no extreme hot or cold,
just the normal hot in summer cold in winter shit.

I expect this thread to fire right up soon, its almost summer in the northern hemisphere,
i'm sure we will get the usual uneducated scare mongering from ya's, "we are all gonna fry"

hopefully you blokes can put up some real science from real scientists, and not the usual IPCC dribble, some real facts wouldn't go astray either

:deadhorse
 
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Mick

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You should visit here Mick, we got endless bugs, then again we are just having normal weather, no extreme hot or cold,
just the normal hot in summer cold in winter shit.

I expect this thread to fire right up soon, its almost summer in the northern hemisphere,
i'm sure we will get the usual uneducated scare mongering from ya's, "we are all gonna fry"

hopefully you blokes can put up some real science from real scientists, and not the usual IPCC dribble, some real facts wouldn't go astray either

:deadhorse

Hey, it's not just me who's notices the declining insect populations. Google it. There lots of science showing insect populations to be in serious decline world wide and once they go the whole shebang collapses. Main causes seem to be poisons, climate change, urbanisation, etc, which aren't separate issues but part of one overriding one.

Show you some real science you say. If you're not going to listen to what just about all climate scientists say, then nothing I can say will change your mind. Do you ever wonder why you denier guys pick on the science of climate change to go all flat earther on? That's the interesting question imo.
 

St. Phatty

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Poison Oak plants in Southern Oregon are setting their seeds in - May.

Last year I picked some Poison Oak seeds in - October/November.

At this rate I'll have Poison Oak seeds in June/July.

Something has those plants thinking it's summer.

Saw my first major Poison Oak pollen release recently. Kind of pretty.

Most of the areas where I've removed the sort-of mulch (like nature made a Slash pile, tree branches etc.), Poison Oak grows like crazy.
 

trichrider

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some real science in here:


"In the last few years, there has been a growing appreciation that the atmospheric chemistry, and even retention of an atmosphere in many cases, depends critically on the high-energy radiation and particle environments around these stars (Segura et al., 2005; Domagal-Goldman et al., 2014; Rugheimer et al., 2015; Airapetian et al. 2017a).
Recent studies have suggested that stellar magnetic activity and its product, astrospheric space weather (SW), the perturbations traveling from stars to planets, in the form of flares, winds, coronal mass ejections (CMEs) and energetic particles from planet hosting stars, may profoundly affect the dynamics, chemistry and exoplanetary climate (Cohen et al. 2014; Airapetian et al. 2016; 2017b; Garcia-Sage et al. 2017; Dong et al. 2018).

The question of impact of stars on exoplanets is complex, and to answer it we must start with the host star itself to determine its effect on the exoplanet environment, all the way from its magnetosphere to its surface. To understand whether an exoplanet is habitable at its surface, not only do we need to understand the changes in the chemistry of its atmosphere due to the penetration of energetic particles and their interaction with constituent molecules, but also the loss of neutral and ionic species, and the addition of molecules due to outgassing from volcanic and tectonic activity. These effects will produce a net gain or loss to the surface pressure and this will affect the surface temperature, as well as a net change in the molecular chemistry.



Figure 1. Schematic view of the complex exoplanetary SW system that incorporates the physical processes driving stellar activity and associated SW including stellar flares, CMEs and their interactions with an exoplanetary atmosphere driven by its internal dynamics. While stellar winds and CMEs affect the shape of an exoplanetary magnetosphere, XUV and energetic particles accelerated on CME-driven shocks enter the atmosphere. The combined effects of XUV, stellar winds and CMEs drive outflows from the exoplanetary atmosphere. These processes are controlling factors of exoplanetary climate and habitability."


https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1905/1905.05093.pdf


https://astrobiology.com/2019/05/im...itability-of-terrestrial-type-exoplanets.html


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378437119308076


https://arxiv.org/pdf/1311.3101.pdf



subjective observation about seasonal variation withers in comparison to actual science.
our weather in the PNW has been drier than usual and temperature has only recently exceeded 60*F.
we have a false spring every year when temps go above 60* and then cool again...we have taken to calling June, Junuary. we don't plant until at least the end of May...uh, right about now.
i've tried to warm things up by driving a large vehicle more often, but it doesn't seem to help.../s
all while nothing much is said about geo-engineering the storms (or lack of) with chemtrails.
read some actual science and you'll possibly understand what causes climate.
good luck:biggrin:
 

Mick

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Deniers have been using the solar flares theory for at least 20 years that I know about. For sure, we are a little speck of dust hurtling through infinity and subject to cosmic forces in ways we can't even begin to understand, but we don't have to look to the cosmos for explanations. The earth has a delicate balance that is changing all the time. Cut down the trees, poison the soil, oceans, rivers, the very air we breath, and it will adjust. Adjust us right out of existence. An example of these cosmic forces at work much closer to home would be the divide within humanity concerning climate change. On the one side you've got the ones who don't seem to care if the earth burns and on the other the people who love and respect it and so want to preserve it at all costs, and that my friend is why we're doomed.
 

trichrider

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who's denying climate changes?
we all agree that climate is changing.
what we don't agree on is that it is caused by CO2 or that CO2 is a pollutant responsible for 'warming'.
let me ask this...
what is it that makes CO2 the culprit?


you also must understand that if humanity is extinguished CO2 will still be here.
 

kickarse

Active member
:laughing: no mention of the SUN

Well I'm experiencing rapid climate change here, a couple of months ago it was hot,
now its cold and will be for a few months, but that's alright because a couple of months after that it will be hot again


Its bloody good to see the people of Australia reject all the UN/lefty scare mongering
it was a big NO for climate action, people are starting to wake up to the UN/socialist SCAM
:deadhorse
 

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