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Chlorine/chloramines

Microbeman

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Neutralize both with a teaspoon of molasses in 5 gallons
(do a search of forum)
OR a bit of compost
OR a bit of dirt
OR ascorbic acid (do a search)
OR an old shoe

Organic matter neutralizes chlorine and chloramines
 
OrganicBuds

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Thanks MM, this is what I do. When making ACT I add the full amount of molasses and let that run for several hours. Seems to do the trick for me.

Fluoride makes your plants teeth hardier.
 
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OrganicOzarks

Seriously though, I know nothing about water treatment as I have always used well water. That being said I am in the process of moving to a City, and am wondering what to do with treated water? Does the fluoride not bother the plants? Microbeman has just given us the answer for the chlorine.

I took for granted my water supply until recently. :)
 
Microbeman

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OrganicLearner said:
As simple as that huh, no bubbling neccessary?
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Once we went into the city to demonstrate our 50 gallon unit at a farmers' market. We planned to just run it with plain water. The water reeked of chlorine when we filled up. We ran it for around 8 hours while we chewed the fat with the lookies. When we dumped it to head home, it still reeked of chlorine.

This is when I stopped believing that aerating for a few hours off-gasses the chlorine.
 
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Word, so about 6 teaspoons of blackstrap mollasses to make 30 gallons of chlorine/chloramine water usable , and since the mollasses doesn't get rid of the fluoride also would this mess up a no till soil container? Maybe lower the iq of the plants like it has done to me lol
 
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OrganicOzarks

I wish I did not have to move to a City, but we are doing it for business reasons. The side benefit is it will be in a State where I will be "legal."

Honestly I can't fucking wait to be somewhere "legal." This shit is getting old.
 
Microbeman

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OrganicLearner said:
Word, so about 6 teaspoons of blackstrap mollasses to make 30 gallons of chlorine/chloramine water usable , and since the mollasses doesn't get rid of the fluoride also would this mess up a no till soil container? Maybe lower the iq of the plants like it has done to me lol
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The amount used is just an approximation but sure.
Stupid plants with strong teeth

BTW in support of the ICmag search function; All the way back to 2010. (go and read damn newbies :))

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=5219874&highlight=chlorine#post5219874

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=5160963&highlight=chlorine#post5160963

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4864278&highlight=chlorine#post4864278

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4687180&highlight=chlorine#post4687180

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4636873&highlight=chlorine#post4636873

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4132001&highlight=chlorine#post4132001

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=3265611&highlight=chlorine#post3265611
 
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BugJar

I was under the impression that chloromine was not that easy to get rid of.

chloromines are the whole reason I even own a filter,

not for the garden but for my homebrewing.

the one thing I do know about them is they make beer taste like crap.
 
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BugJar said:
I was under the impression that chloromine was not that easy to get rid of.

chloromines are the whole reason I even own a filter,

not for the garden but for my homebrewing.

the one thing I do know about them is they make beer taste like crap.
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Chloramines are a combination of chlorine & ammonia. The combined effect is much more lethal to micro organisms than the same concentration of either one. The combination is also much more stable in water. They aren't removed with aeration, and aquarists' old standby, sodium thiosulfate, only reacts with the chlorine, leaving the ammonia active.

Molasses, compost or similar may well dissipate chloramines because they provide something for the chloramines to react with. That's why chloramines are deadly to microscopic life, because they react with organic matter, living or dead. They'll also react very quickly with the organic material in soil, with some deleterious effect on the microbial community.

Modern aquarists use specially formulated water conditioners that neutralize chloramines instantly, making the water safe for fish. Prime is a favorite-

http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html

It also renders residential treated water safe for aquatic plants.

Aquarists really can't use molasses, but it may be fine for growers' purposes.

Many water providers have solid web presence, where we can learn about our water. Denver Water is one of the best-

http://www.denverwater.org/
 
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BugJar

before using my RO we used Kmeta or potassium metabisulphite to neutralize it.

Probably shouldn't use that in the garden.
 
Weird

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http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners

aloe and comfrey are mentioned

it also mentions some of the byproducts of using chemical conditioners

i myself do the same as we did with fresh water tropical and draw the tap water well before use

24 hours minimum

there used to be a stress coat product with aloe that i used in a pinch if i needed water

the one available today is not the same iirc
 
Weird

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im on city water and today the water REEKED of chlorine, seriously worse than a pool

I have noticed since 9/11 heavy incidents of chlorine increase at particular times of the year
 
Eighths-n-Aces

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If you are going the vitamin C route Earth Juice Ph down is pure citric acid. The grow store probably sells it cheaper than the vitamin cottage.
 
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