HempKat & The Insane Clone Posse

I didnt know this could be done weekly. I have been looking forward to when I could use it because it always seems like I get a growth shot from it. Another thing I have been experimenting with is adding a teaspoon of dolomite lime in the water once every week or ten days.........

checking back in, HempKat!

still looks great from here!

JJScorpio said:

I didnt know this could be done weekly. I have been looking forward to when I could use it because it always seems like I get a growth shot from it. Another thing I have been experimenting with is adding a teaspoon of dolomite lime in the water once every week or ten days.........

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I mix 2 table sppons of that into my soil mix for every gallon of mix and that's all I've ever needed to be free of ph issues and magnesium deficiencies.

As for that molasses that's what I did with the from seed C-99's and had no noticeable probems from it.

Sleepy said:

checking back in, HempKat!

still looks great from here!

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Thanks Sleepy

JJScorpio said:

Do you think you notice a difference using the molassis compared to not?

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I'm not really sure, not much of a difference, but for the first batch I wasn't able to get the Blackstrap so that might have been a factor.

HempKat those girls are looking good !
I use the molasses @1TBS/gal with every drop of water, I've even used honey and the beneficials love it, it's like candy to them so it never really builds up at that rate and yes the blackstrap is superior and cheap.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who suppercrops, I guess I'm getting old school, I crush the hurd from the time they are clone/seedlings and them every 10 days in veg and once right as I start flowering.
I really beefs up the stems, I'm brutal sometimes and I twist the entire stalk by holding the stem at a node and rotating it until you feel a pop.
I can see your at the mercy of local temps as am I, I have a 6 pack of ladies flowering, KaliSpice from Dman with 40days to go.
My temps are starting to get past where I'd like them but I agree an AC can get pricey during the summer, besides summer is for having outdoor fun and drinking brews and checking out the mini skirts stroll by .
I'm sure you'll get more hits as they start to flower, it's when marijuana porn get interesting.

Sub's (aka jinxie)

Suby said:

HempKat those girls are looking good !
I use the molasses @1TBS/gal with every drop of water, I've even used honey and the beneficials love it, it's like candy to them so it never really builds up at that rate and yes the blackstrap is superior and cheap.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who suppercrops, I guess I'm getting old school, I crush the hurd from the time they are clone/seedlings and them every 10 days in veg and once right as I start flowering.
I really beefs up the stems, I'm brutal sometimes and I twist the entire stalk by holding the stem at a node and rotating it until you feel a pop.
I can see your at the mercy of local temps as am I, I have a 6 pack of ladies flowering, KaliSpice from Dman with 40days to go.
My temps are starting to get past where I'd like them but I agree an AC can get pricey during the summer, besides summer is for having outdoor fun and drinking brews and checking out the mini skirts stroll by .
I'm sure you'll get more hits as they start to flower, it's when marijuana porn get interesting.

Sub's (aka jinxie)

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Okay, now wait a minute, hold on just one second, you're some clone of me that I don't know of right? One of the 6th day violations like in that Arnold S. movie? Cause I swear as I was reading your post I said to myself, "Self, if I didn't know better I'd swear it was you that wrote that" :smile: At least the part about how to spend the summer for sure :tup: I may be old and married but that doesn't mean I'm dead and can't look.

Yeah actually to be honest I've been adding the molasses pretty much every watering to because the thing is, it's not really for the plants directly, it's for feeding and growing the beneficial microbes that exist symbiotically <sp?> with the plant's root system. You feed them, they get bigger and stronger and more of them and they inturn help to better feed your plants, kind of like being your plant's personal chef and wait staff. However I reread 3LB's piece about molasses just recently and it sounds like 1 tbsp per gallon every watering is too much. Then again their piece focuses more on using it as part of an organic tea. Since there is a difference in sugar levels and nutrient levels between regular and blackstrap molasses I'm going to wait and see how a grow turns out using that stuff before I make any final judgements on the application rate. Really though given the expense of using these add on products like blackstrap molasses and Liquid Karma on top of some decent ferts like pureblend pro, I have to start questioning the worth. I mean is the plant really doing better or do I just feel that it is because I'm doing all this extra stuff? Know what I mean?

Yeah, AC's are nice but for the hobbiest I say it's better to get to the point that the summer is when you kick back and enjoy the fruits of your labors more. Like go fishing with some friends and a bag and a cooler of munchies and drinks. Or anyone of a ton of great things to do outdoors with a nice buzz on. Now if you are just starting out and you can't do outdoors then an AC will get the job done, but with where the world is headed with global warming that's becoming an unwise luxury. Besides, a summer is only a forth of the year, and I will be keeping a few clones under fluoros as that's not as much of a strain to cool. So When I start up again I'll hit the ground running. The coolest part though is that if I had to, just one crop of 10 plants covers me just fine for a year. So there's never any pressure to produce a crop. I mean not really, I did come a little close to being out this past year but that was also because I gave out more then usual.

Okay, so on the crushing the hurd thing do you feel the beefing up has made a significant difference for you? I mean I've done it both ways and yeah the stalks got bigger doing it but it didn't seem to make a significant impact on the buds. So I'm kind of getting to the point is half of the things we do even necessary or have we as growers just gotten ritualistic about things? Also on the crushing the hurd, what do you do with woody stems? I mean on the hollow stemed plants it's fairly easy to tell but this C-99 is pretty solid all the way thru. Mainly I'm holding it below the area I want to affect and above but I think I'd have to go too far to get something to snap or pop. So I twist it the amount I feel comfortable with and hope it is sufficient. Even though they are thinnish some of these stem and branches are surprisingly strong and should do fine for support.

I'm sure you are right about when I get to flowering plus there are lots of other factors, the cup, spring planting season, people making plans for the summer, finals, etc. Not to mention the shake up all the recent drama with the online community has put us all through. Anyway thanks for dropping by and your comments and observations, feel free to continue And being that you were so kind it would be cruel of me to bore you to death by rambling on further so I'll shut up now. :smile:

I have 3 weeks or a little less left so it will probably only be beneficial for me to give them molassis one more time. I wish I would have started earlier, but I cant really be of any help here. I can tell you that I think the molassis actually gets into the plant itself though. Take one of your big fan leaves at the bottom and break the stem in half and suck the water out of the stem. Mine has a sweet taste to it. My wife said she could taste it to. Is that possible, or is it sweet to begin with?

JJScorpio said:

I have 3 weeks or a little less left so it will probably only be beneficial for me to give them molassis one more time. I wish I would have started earlier, but I cant really be of any help here. I can tell you that I think the molassis actually gets into the plant itself though. Take one of your big fan leaves at the bottom and break the stem in half and suck the water out of the stem. Mine has a sweet taste to it. My wife said she could taste it to. Is that possible, or is it sweet to begin with?

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I've never tried that but I have read that most things flowing thru the plant have lots of natural sugars and carbs and starches in them but I know that doesn't apply to the resin at least taste wise as that has a bitter quality.

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I was actually surprised at how sweet it was. The big fan leaves have a lot of water in the stems.......

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I'll have to give that a try, maybe off one of the clone moms when I take clones next.

lookin' bushy and green. keep it up

Morning boys,

Well HK if you wake up one morning passed out in the streets of Montreal with a kidney missing you'll know your do have a clone....jk
Yeah if your adding your molasses to plain water them yes it might be alittle much, I water every watering with an earth worm casting tea containing molasses, seaweed, fulvic acid and cider vinegar that I bubble for ~48hrs, the beneficials in the broth eat most of the sugar before it hits the rootzone, it's funny how the details can make or break a situation.
Well as far as the suppercropping I really do feel it makes a difference when you start early, early on they will be fresh and tender so snap away, aside from thicker stems it really helps maintain height and push grow to the lower nodes alot like topping does, I also find it causes the root mass to be alittle fuller but I use michorizae in my soil so that's not really a factor anymore.

JJ: Have you considered that your mom's could be the problem with your clones, if they are very green with N it can make cloning a PITA and if you bubble cloned them they should have taken, it's like 90% effective. .


I'm lucky, my wife is one of those miniskirt wearing hotties, a fit french canadian woman is a thing of beauty.

Light 'em boys, its terace season.

Suby said:

Morning boys,

Well HK if you wake up one morning passed out in the streets of Montreal with a kidney missing you'll know your do have a clone....jk
Yeah if your adding your molasses to plain water them yes it might be alittle much, I water every watering with an earth worm casting tea containing molasses, seaweed, fulvic acid and cider vinegar that I bubble for ~48hrs, the beneficials in the broth eat most of the sugar before it hits the rootzone, it's funny how the details can make or break a situation.
Well as far as the suppercropping I really do feel it makes a difference when you start early, early on they will be fresh and tender so snap away, aside from thicker stems it really helps maintain height and push grow to the lower nodes alot like topping does, I also find it causes the root mass to be alittle fuller but I use michorizae in my soil so that's not really a factor anymore.

JJ: Have you considered that your mom's could be the problem with your clones, if they are very green with N it can make cloning a PITA and if you bubble cloned them they should have taken, it's like 90% effective. .


I'm lucky, my wife is one of those miniskirt wearing hotties, a fit french canadian woman is a thing of beauty.

Light 'em boys, its terace season.

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Well I did it at 1tbsp per gallon with regular molasses and there seemed to be no harm so I'm hoping that since that blackstrap has less it will be okay. I'll know in a couple of months

Thanks for your info, so no adivce on the woody stems other then to start early on?

Okay, There is a bit of an issue I'm having that I have never seen before and I'm stumped as to the cause. Basically after having the clones under the big light in bigger pots I'm ready to go 12/12. Now this is a first for me with clones but from seed at this point pretty much all my leaves have 7, 9 even 11 blades on each leaf. In this case however most of the leaves are three blade leaves and quite a few are single blades. I've included pics so you could see what I'm talking about. Has anyone else experienced something like this and knows why it happens?

hey Hempkat...

that shit itis weird. you shure its not just the genethics?

Okay time for an update. Okay the clone mothers were starting to get too big so I took half a dozen clones and transplanted 3 of the mothers into 3 gallon pots and moved them into the main grow area. The 4th clone mother developed some sort of problem that was hitting it pretty bad. Since I had enough clones to move on and really didn't have the room for 3 more plants in the other room let alone 4. So I just went ahead and killed that one and didn't take any clones to avoid the problem being passed on. Looks like it developed a ph imbalance though.
Not only did I add the three moms to the flower room but I also switch to the HPS and started them on their 12/12 cycle.

Other then the problem in the post above about the leaves everything appears to be just fine. Here are the latest pics.

WAMEN said:

hey Hempkat...

that shit itis weird. you shure its not just the genethics?

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Well I'm not sure but I doubt it since I didn't see it from the ones done from seed.

the leafs are that relaxed cause the lights where off some minutes before you took the pic?

the posse is looking good but tell me wich is VIOLENT JAY and wich is SHAGGY 2 DOPE
got any monoxide child or jamie maddrox how about some ABK

WAMEN said:

the leafs are that relaxed cause the lights where off some minutes before you took the pic?

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No those pics were taken about 6 or 7 hours after lights on. So if anything is keeping the leaves relaxed it's maintaining good temps and humidity that's likely the cause.