"NYH" New York Haze(Piff)

Dude~!

Props for actually growing some pure out~!

A Little down low on the Haze Projects:

So check it out, I had been in that scene for quite a while and my expertise in the industry is still sought after although I have since retired. I am not a Full on grow expert or any such the like, more the road of a professional connesouir and consultant to a market, from experience, I well understand.

After that bit of background, heres a bit of background on 99.9% of all herb that come into NYC, ESPECIALLY The Hights, Under the So called Name Haze~!

It is indeed infact sativa origins, however, not all of it is haze (which is a cross of 4 sativas) and it does not come from NY.

There is a large op going on in the BX, its run by the 50, they escort the trucks in on a weekly basis and allow the download of tractor trailers full of import sativa in from FL. All of it comes in and a street is blocked off and guarded by the Biggest Gang around (NYPD), and the trucks are unloaded.

The reason I want you all to know this is b/c of the next thing that happens to it, which is I believe sacreligious to the herb smoking community and one of the dirtiest things EVER.

Now this next phase, took me a while to wrap my mind around, and people to this day still refuse to believe me on it, and to that I say, fine smoke that Crack..... because thats exactly what they do:

They then, dope the herb out in mass quantities, using whatever is easiliest availiable in that given moment (either the by product from making heroin, or they put it on screens as they cook white to make crack. Etc. The one I see most often is a funky smell that doesnt smell anything like weed, although people have begun associating it with bomb haze, and from some one who has smoke actual haze and other strong sativas many times over..... it is nothing of the sort.

They dope it out in mass quantities, then it hits the streets, going anywhere from Lbs to dimes and nicks.... the bag sellers on the corners get $1 per bag and sell around $1000 a week.... people come from all over for that uptown haze.....

So now you know.... please do us all a favor and dont let your friend smoke crack, most people are simply just ignorant to it..... but there is a reason it puts you in a world unlike anything any other weed has taken you to.... thats b/c its crack.....or something of the same nature.... I've even heard of them using rat poison..... its sick, people are selling their spirit out from under them..... grow with love and boycott the disrespect of the beautiful sacrament that is weed.....

Live in the Light~!

One Love

T

To Clarify.... my post refers to 99.9% of all herb known as Haze in the Greater NYC Area..... Just had to make sure that was clear

anyone got an info on the brown sticky stuff vermylia used to peddle before they got busted multiple times? Prob during 2001-2005 their stuff was crazy.

Tarbosh is absolutely correct, but it has nothing really to do with other drugs/by-product of other drugs at all though. It is a totally different "solution" all unto itself. It frequently comes around the North east, wether it be NYC, boston, whatever.....but its nice sativa weed, that WAS nice and bomb....but imagine a ferris wheel that could fit inside of a room, and in each "seat" you could put 2-4 ounces....and where you would get onto the "ride" where each "seat" dips down, is a resevoir holding the "solution" so the ferris wheel goes round and round and round until your nice weed is covered in this soultion. That is the terrible smell/taste that so many associate with Haze. Causes headaches, dilation of the pupils, and sometimes even psychosis in inexperienced smokers. The best way to get the real haze, is through a breeder, or getting the seeds of a real haze from someone you trust. You can say whatever you want, bash me, bash Tarbosh, do as you will.....but that "BOMB HAZE ON DA CORNA" is little more than commercial sensimilla that's been chemed up for your $400 an ounce pleasure. I've seen this process myself, believe what you want, smoke the chemicals, or do what tri-state is doing and try to help the haze community by growing out real hazes, that don't get chemed up.

It can't still be treated with chemicals can it? Back in the day it absolutely REEKED of skunk smell and would hit so hard (I assume this is the crack haze you are talking about, actually i suspected as much also but for all intents and purposes it seemed like it was genuine bud only).

I ask about now becuase the haze they have in washington heights SUCKS now. It is so weak I find it hard to believe that it could be doped up...how could dope+weed be that weak?

Also smoking crack generally lasts about 15 minutes while hitting that haze is NOTORIOUS for keeping you stoned for HOURS. All these little facts lead me to believe it was real bud (of course that's just what i wanted to believe anyway).

I don't doubt you, I'm just trying to clarify certain things for information purposes, plus I still have some friends that still live on the east coast and I'm worried for them.

i'll suck your dick for a hit of that rock. ahhh good ole pookie

I really hope that's not true. I'm not going to lie, he only suspect weed I've bought that I know came outta NYC was called "Manhattan Brown", and it was JUST LIKE tarbosh described. The rest of the piff I get when buying seems to be very normal. Is this laced stuff the same the "haze" that smells like inscense when you burn it? I remember the MB having a chemmy taste and smell, so this would make sense.

Lune TNS said:

I really hope that's not true. I'm not going to lie, he only suspect weed I've bought that I know came outta NYC was called "Manhattan Brown", and it was JUST LIKE tarbosh described. The rest of the piff I get when buying seems to be very normal. Is this laced stuff the same the "haze" that smells like inscense when you burn it? I remember the MB having a chemmy taste and smell, so this would make sense.

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Strongest haze I ever had from NY was brown and sticky and REEKED of Skunk. In my mind, this is the one in question. But everything about it makes it seem like it's the opposite of crack. The only reason I suspect it might be laced is because it was INSANELY potent...like unrealistically so. Burned normal though and tasted like bud.

i too have had some of this brown weed that came from nyc. i was told it was blueberry, but upon taking one small hit (and i mean the same amount as a cigarette drag, and release, no hold) i realized it was not blueberry at all, but some sort of discusting taste that burned the crap out of my throat. i mean it burned like fire, not just harsh weed. the exhaled smoke smell was of burnt plastic or some type of herbal incense. immediately, and i mean as i was exhaling, i was intoxicated, but not your normal strong herb intoxication, more like a hot flash w/warm face and cheeks, with an over powering gravity that was almost scary, and made me sit down on the couch. but it wasn't your dreamy lost in thought/floating coach lock buzz, it was something different.

i couldn't feel half of my body, or just one leg was completely numb at a time, like if your leg fell asleep. very very uncomfortable. something wasn't right about it, and i never finished it, and got rid of it. there were some feelings to its high like the typical weed, because whatever it was was weed at one time, but some very noticable other factors.

i took a look at it under my microscope, and i saw trichomes, just like the bud i smoke today, most were amber, but there was a strange red/auburn coloring to the calyx's/trichome area. i thought it was just because of the amber of the trichomes creating the overall color effect, because i've never seen so many amber trichs at one time.

i've never done heroin, but i do know that people itch and sweat a lot on it, and i've taken notice of myself scratching my legs and arms during that high - with sweat on my forehead. the whole experience was very out of body disorienting and inability to move limbs/severe numbness, sensation of floating above yourself, some thoughts unexplainable. and these feelings were immediate, no gentle ride up to a peak.

i've never done salvia either, but i've read of 30x trips where you feel some sort of weighted gravity like that. a friend that also tried some of this bud, and who smokes way more then i do, said with his normal amount, he was pretty much tripping. and did not want to try any more of it after that.

maybe it's possible they were dipped in some secret ghetto fluid, or mixed with salvia 30x, who knows, but i've never experienced herb like that since. this may have been about 2.5 years ago.

really super duper incredibly potent herb? i'm not sure. you'd think if you oversmoked yourself you just get tired and eventually pass out and sleep. but this high was pretty way passed any white out high would be, without the white out coming on at all.

the potent stuff i smoke now does pretty much all of the above, except without the scary and uncomfortable paralization, and it tastes way better.

if you guys know what the secret ingredient is (if it really exists) why not list it and have someone do an experiment to see if all the hype is just an adulterated middie, or some super potent strain, that pretty much lots of us have experienced, and can't seem to reproduce?

ive lived right outside of NYC my whole life and the true haze i've got from the city always had that typical haze taste except it was usually 10x more flavorful and potent. im smoked dusted shit, not by choice, before and i really don't think some of the true hazes from NYC i've smoked had anything on them.

why i wanted to post was that up until about 5 years ago, every few months i would find bud called "pepper-heads" which everyone i've lived around is familiar with but i've never heard of seen of it outside of the LI/NYC/BK/BX areas.

this bud is insanely potent and tasted spicy and mouth-numbing at the same time. i've always suspected that this shit may have come from NYC and was doped with something as it was typically more moist than it should have been and had a funky smell i've never been able to place with any other kind of bud. i haven't seen any of this bud recently but would jump on the chance to smoke some if i could find it.

anyone else ever hear of pepper-heads? is this just another haze-strain thats been potentially doped with some shit?

who the fuck is gonna lace bud w/ shit that costs $$$?
how is that business savvy?

cocktail frank said:

who the fuck is gonna lace bud w/ shit that costs $$$?
how is that business savvy?

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I guess the idea is that if you get enough crack on it people will start fiending and them boom.... Got yourself a customer for life

i completely agree frank, would be a waste of money, but if they are using some sort of chemical by products of heroin or some other lab production like what tarbosh was saying, i couldn't see why not. waste not want not. if the goop is going into the sewer drains anyway, why not dip some middie and sell it as top shelf. deep inside i wish it isnt true, but the high i've experienced was abosolutely scary for weed. i can handle the normal paranoia, but this was a different buzz, i'd have to say almost painful. could be i'm just a light weight, but i won't smoke that stuff if i had it again, that's for sure.

This info is from user name PIG, I don't remember if he was here or on O.G.

PIG said:

Spots like the one mentioned are common info and the cops even know about them. Fact of the matter is this, the cops dont bother with spots that sell petty .4 dime bags of haze. But onto the subject. In short, no thats not real haze. If you want some real haze, look elsewhere. The Katsu in Amsterdam is a good choice ! There are many theories floating around about the haze but im preety sure im right. The haze is sp[rayed with an opiate. Go smoke an ounce of haze over the course of a week or so and then buy a piss test at rite-aid and you'll see what I mean. Also read these threads:

This comment is basicially cut and pasted from another thread where I posted this same shit like a week age but here goes:


NY haze IS NOT real haze man. Its laced with an opiate. Trust me on this one. Thats why its soo addictive. And the same people who sell the NY Haze (dominicanos) also have a penchant for slanging heroin so it would make sense. The Pu-day is chemical ass shit. Its various types of high end herb sprayed with the "uptown haze mix". I blazed an O of it to the head over like 5 days. It was a real deal uptown O of haze. That lime ass green sticky ass ultra-hazy smelling shit. Then I went to the west coast and when I got off the plane I was feelin real pissed off and agitated. I felt like I was having fucking withdrawls or something. So I said fuck it and went a bought a piss test. Pissed in the cup and sure enough I was dirty for THC and OPIATES. This proved my theory entirely seeing as how I dont indulge in any substance beyond pot, not even alcohol.

When heroin gets shipped here, its sent soaked into clothing. They then take the clothing and extract the heroin from it. There is a liquid byproduct left over that is then mixed with frankincense essential oil and a solvent(Dipropylene Glycol). People think its Opium but it would be really dumb to lace something with something that is even more expensive. People associate that smell with the mild heroin high they get from this herb and they just keep coming back for more. Anyways the varying kinds of Puday are all just various high end weed sprayed with 'the spray'. I figured this out after failing a piss test for Opiates. I had just smoked an OZ of haze from Dyckman and Post. So I set out to figure out how these damn Dominicanos do it. I know lots about weed and I knew there was something off about it. After a long while, I figured it out. IF you look hard enough in the right circles there is Puday spray for sale man. I found it. Verified my belief and never again bought haze from uptown. I must admit I still indulge in a blunt of this awful shit every now and then.

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ChicoEscuela said:

Good thread fellas...but the outer boroughs are the secret to good dank at lower prices. A few spots in Queens and L.I. will hook you up with some really good green for much less than the city.

And all uptown crap is just that CRAP. I'm Dominican and I know what they're selling.

pal carajo con esas porquerias!

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Personally, I've seen tons of those "hazes". The bud structure is always different, it never drys even when left out for a few days but always smells and taste pretty much the same. Frankly, I don't smoke it anymore.

TCMD - i know for sure that its not laced with dust, dust is one substance that i have had personal experience with. this way wayy in my past, and never again after that. the stuff we got was from right out of the holland by a park there, or by the apollo theater area. this would of been back in the 80s, early 90s. usually it was tea leaves dipped in it. the smell was unmistakeable, as it reaked to high heaven of that minty dust smell. they'd call it the vapors days after you do that you smell that smell everywhere, in car exhausts fumes, you name it.it also gives somewhat of an afterglow happiness for many days.

the high i got off of that was completely different from pot, more of a drunken blurred vision, time lapse and confusion of thoughts, but in a really different way. repeating myself of something i had just heard someone say to me, etc. i'd never do it again, i was a stupid kid, bad me. but oh did i enjoy that euphoric feeling, but it was not a weed high, thats for sure.

so i'd have to say its definately not laced with angel dust. imo i'd immediately recognize that, and most likely wouldn't be complaining that it was painful or uncomfortable. dust doesn't feel like that.

maybe a chemical by product? who knows?

Tucker Johnson said:

This info is from user name PIG, I don't remember if he was here or on O.G.

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PIG is right, Katsu is probably the best place on earth to smoke different Hazes, it is the only place I have ever seen Haze hash on sale, also, probably the only place it would really actually be Haze hash !

gamehaze said:

why do you have to speak spanish in london u have to speak vietnamese and you can get haze hybrid cut at 8 weeks sold wet but its still the shit if i was to guess id say it was mothers finest from sensi seeds its sounds the same as ur piff

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The last thing that cutting is, is Haze ! I picked it up myself this Christmas, it looks very Indica dominated. [So, is totally, utterly, un Haze like for those who do not seem to grasp this fundamental difference]

The Vietnamese speak perfectly good English, but grow in soil, so need a "Massive Producer" ... [the name I was given for it.] to get acceptable yields. My guess is maybe a selected Big Bud clone but I will have none to smoke for 3 months so I am far off a real guess even.

They [The Viets] sell weed wet to stupid greedy people, but, as far as I was told, it is more the Dutch who are adding glass and dodgy crystallising chemicals to commercial weed. Story goes there is some new crystal you spray on wet weed to soak up the water, make it look shiny and weigh more. This is bad, but it is not smack or crack or anything else used as an adulterant as other posters have speculated, either way, I am not sure what you would be worse off smoking, ....avoid at all costs.

Tucker Johnson said:

This info is from user name PIG, I don't remember if he was here or on O.G.



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Personally, I've seen tons of those "hazes". The bud structure is always different, it never drys even when left out for a few days but always smells and taste pretty much the same. Frankly, I don't smoke it anymore.

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Thanks for the insight. The haze i acquire is shipped from FL, in mustard barrels. (Ive Seen the P's Myself) Alot of what he said is very true. In particular when smoking Youll notice the "firecracker sparking" when pulling on a Blunt. That Brownish haze is around now, known as HARRAC (Ha-ra-ck) garbage, can be found off post and sherman. The outerBoros have the Known strains at much more reasonable prices per O for sure.
I do think the Police escort portion of the story is a stretch, But the rest of the story explains alot.

NycKid .....Sittin back laughing....

its not fucking laced.......heroin,just dosnt make you feel like that,crack neather,its good bud that most people can't handle so they say its laced...

well, i haven't obviously gotton from everyone,but in my expernce its just good weed