Who's afraid of Barry Seal?

al70 · Oct 30, 2017

i hope they make a movie bout me, it'd be funny.

al70 · Oct 30, 2017

Deep shit, i'm awayhttps://www.icmag.com/ic/images/smilies/artist.gif.

Beanzy · Oct 31, 2017

Sam_Skunkman said:
After Barry was murdered his wife and family moved to Santa Cruz to get away from it all.
They rented a small house next to a close friend that sold Cannabis, the Original Haze.
The family was shattered and destitute and scared they were next. I do not know what happened to them after I left the USA soon afterward.

Legalize all drugs, take the profits away, teach the ignorant that hard drugs are poison shit.
If you like any hard dug you better stay away from it, if you do not like them stay away from them all.
-SamS

Thank you I know this works, besides us knowing how marijuana legalization works in those states, if the govt were to allow every opiate addict to register and receive clinical drugs and safe place to do them under supervision there would be no market for the gangsters to sell their poison to. Educate , rehabilitate, maintain. It worked in holland and Portugal but politicians here will never lose that incarcerate their way out of a problem mindset.

moose eater · Nov 18, 2017

Received this forwarded excerpt and link via e-mail from an expatriated 'Murkin, who's been living in rural France, and married to a beautiful French woman for the last couple decades or so... Same fellow with whom I'd corresponded about the subject at hand in this thread.....

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https://consortiumnews.com/2017/11/15/the-charmed-doomed-life-of-barry-seal/

>>>""Seal was a complex, multi-layered individual who was very hard to figure out because he was so involved in deception, even self-deception. Cruise only gets the surface.

If you want to be entertained about a serious subject then American Made is your film. If you wish to learn something more definitive about Barry Seal, see Doublecrossed. If you want to be educated about the whole sordid Reagan intervention in Central American, rent Kill the Messenger, the fine film that Jeremy Renner made about the tragedy that befell Gary Webb when he dared revive the ugly story of the CIA’s complicity in the Contra-cocaine network.""<<<

Elmer Bud · Nov 18, 2017

Freeway Rick Ross on Joe Rogan Pod Cast .

jumpincactus · Nov 18, 2017

Great input

Great input

moose eater said:
I've read a variety of -recent- articles about this (don't know if that was you or not) and recall some of it from years back.

Laos and Air America, Afghani dope in the early 80s (during the Mujahedeen's tiffs with the Soviets), the current waist-deep supply of Afghani Black tar, even up here in Alaska, and the cocaine that was very available in relatively pure state in the early 80s, all point to the 'cash-and-carry' benefits of black market drugs for those who need to fund operations or move weapons.

And in every case, which ever Administration is/was in charge, the response was nearly always the same; "A handful of rogue agents/personnel/military members," yadda yadda, yadda.

I recall the capture of the CIA's 'Dirty Tricks' book, the press and public being booted from Committee hearings when Ollie North was asked specifically about 'shadow governments' in our Country, etc.

Between what our government has done or lied about in half the world or more, when any official states I/we should be ashamed for growing a plant, I laugh out loud at the absurdity. They work for or employ murderers, propagandists, and professional liars, rubbing shoulders with reprehensible 2nd and 3rd world despots, who promise them strategic access and/or corporate benefits, but -I-/we should be ashamed for good gardening, of which the end results causes people to laugh, sleep, or eat a bit too much.

It's a MAD, MAD world!!

You just uttered an understatement. Things arent as our govs would have us believe. If you havent already seen the mini series " "Americas War on Drugs" watch it . It was aired on cable tvs "The History Channel" Covers a lot of the Iran Contra scandal, barry seals and air america and a whole lot of very interesting data that should make any decent human being cringe when you take in the gravity of it all. Also covers a lot about the Medellin Cartels and good ole Pablo Escobar. I will certify this, the truth is out there and will set you free. The downside is you will never look at your governments the same. No matter what side of the pond you live.

I was born in the early 50's and have paid very close attention to the hawks up on the hill and I can tell you the folks in charge have much blood on their hands.We are only as free as they allow us to be. " For freedom is but an illusion"

moose eater · Nov 18, 2017

jumpincactus said:
You just uttered an understatement. Things arent as our govs would have us believe. If you havent already seen the mini series " "Americas War on Drugs" watch it . It was aired on cable tvs "The History Channel" Covers a lot of the Iran Contra scandal, barry seals and air america and a whole lot of very interesting data that should make any decent human being cringe when you take in the gravity of it all. Also covers a lot about the Medellin Cartels and good ole Pablo Escobar. I will certify this, the truth is out there and will set you free. The downside is you will never look at your governments the same. No matter what side of the pond you live.

I was born in the early 50's and have paid very close attention to the hawks up on the hill and I can tell you the folks in charge have much blood on their hands.We are only as free as they allow us to be. " For freedom is but an illusion"

Yessir. And perverting 'patriotism,' distorting its meaning into something that really equates to lock-step nationalism, is a primary tool of theirs.

I knew who and what they were when I was still young, and they shot up Kent State.

May they answer one day to a jury they cannot buy or sway. Here, or in the next plain. Which ever.

I'd pay heavy for a front-row seat to -THAT- show. :tiphat:

Gry · Nov 19, 2017

I see there are people in this tread with similar interests to myself.
One of the more interesting sources for "this kind of content" has been Fletcher Prouty.
Specifically, his book "The Secret [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Team" and a 12 hour interview he did about material covered in the publication.
I listened to the first four hours worth again the other day.
Each time I do, I find more detail I had missed in previous sessions.
What stood out for me this time around was his speaking of plans for the invasion of Japan.
He described a "ManPack" of supplies for an army of 1/2 million men which had been placed on Guam in preparation for the planned invasion of Japan.
We all know why the invasion did not take place.
Col Prouty mentions in the interview, almost in passing, that those supplies became an agency asset and were transferred to "uncle ho" the following year, 1945.
That just plain "jumped out" for me this time around.

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moose eater · Nov 19, 2017

Gry said:
I see there are people in this tread with similar interests to myself.
One of the more interesting sources for "this kind of content" has been Fletcher Prouty.
Specifically, his book "The Secret [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Team" and a 12 hour interview he did about material covered in the publication.
I listened to the first four hours worth again the other day.
Each time I do, I find more detail I had missed in previous sessions.
What stood out for me this time around was his speaking of plans for the invasion of Japan.
He described a "ManPack" of supplies for an army of 1/2 million men which had been placed on Guam in preparation for the planned invasion of Japan.
We all know why the invasion did not take place.
Col Prouty mentions in the interview, almost in passing, that those supplies became an agency asset and were transferred to "uncle ho" the following year, 1945.
That just plain "jumped out" for me this time around.

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I think for those who view allies as something that merely provides strategic, corporate/business, or other convenience, as opposed to a sense of moral or political justice, who they provide weapons or support to has little consequence in the present. it's only down the road, when they've created a monster (Saddam? Baby Doc? Samosa? The Shaw? Pinochet? Noriega? etc., etc., ad nauseum) do they then turn to Ma' and Pa' 'Murka, challenge their patriotism and generosity where life blood is concerned, strike up the band to turn on the John Phillip Souza march music, drop the red, white, and blue confetti from the dance hall ceilings, and start spewing bullshit about patriotic duty.. so our sons and daughters can violate their own souls and consciences in order to put down the monsters -they've- created in their sociopathic and geo-political opportunism.

FUCK 'EM ALL!!

I'd shoot the bastages myself before I'd let them sucker my kid(s) into that kind of soulless game-playing..

CaptainDankness · Nov 19, 2017

Sam_Skunkman said:
Legalize all drugs, take the profits away, teach the ignorant that hard drugs are poison shit.
If you like any hard drug you better stay away from it, if you do not like them stay away from them all.
-SamS

I agree 100% this country was founded on freedom. Prohibition has only made drugs much more dangerous first with alcohol crime went through the roof in the roaring 20's people where murdered over alcohol sales gangs became a part of life, the founding of the five families, Al Capone, really so many gangsters I'd need to write a book to list them all. Then the prohibition of heroin, prostitution and gambling came soon after fast forward to 2017 opiates are the number 1 killer of people under 30 years old mostly do to fentanyl and even worse carfentanyl. Same problem with alcohol prohibition it was cut with nasty chemicals that killed people and just morons who didn't know how to distill ethanol the first to come out of a still is methanol which can cause blindness and even death. Let alone the people using led piping for stills killing even more.

Opium dens were fine the Chinese built our railroads while smoking opium certainly no worse of a drug than alcohol. I'm sure many people today would choose opium over heroin for pain and just getting high. Coca leaves are no worse than coffee beans cocaine would also be much safer made properly but less dangerous solvents are not used because poor cooks in South America use gasoline because it is cheaper and readily available gasoline causes the degration of flesh destroying the nasal cavities of frequent users also a know carcinogen that can cause cancer.

Go figure cities have much more cancer than rural areas ethanol is above and beyond a much better source of fuel but we fight wars over that black gold along with opium and cocaine dominance. But very few nation's are innocent all of NATO, Russia, China, Israel, middle East, India and more have their hands dirty.

But with all the trouble in the world we can't really make a difference too many greedy people in the world kind of makes me sick. We have Christians that claim Jesus as there Lord and savior but they don't follow his teaching not even close it's all about the size of the steeple, when Jesus had no church just the land of his father. Same goes with Buddha these were great men who believed in unity but man is just so greedy and full of hate.

We don't need patented medication we need to help one another fuck borders they don't exist we are children of mother Earth and the father sun animals don't see borders only the most ignorant creatures on Earth, humans.

Prohibition only creates crime where there is none!
Borders just create division where there is none!
Gold is nothing but a metal with very little real value but separates us into the haves and have nots. I would love to start a free seed company gift them all from weed, to veggies to flowers of course we have to pay taxes or become victims of armed robbery by our governments.

We are in great need of a global revolution for absolute freedom I will gladly teach people to live off the land for free and share freely. But too many people want the new iPhone even though it costs far too much money we are most definitely the most ignorant creatures on Earth the only creatures that are destroying the Earth nobody is innocent even if you drive a hybrid you are responsible for the mining lithium destroying entire mountains smaller carbon footprint sure....

GoatCheese · Nov 20, 2017

Chip Tatum was involved in the same Iran-Contra cocaine affair as Barry Seal was.

According to Tatum, Bill Clinton personally picked up coolers filled with cocaine from him. Bill Clinton didn't know at the time, that Chip Tatum knew the coolers had cocaine in them!

..Clinton, George Bush, Oliver North and many more "good guys" were involved with drug trafficking.

Chip Tatum interview- Presidental secrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-D2Vl-FpTs

Here's a docu about the Iran-Contra drug running

The Mena Connection: Exposing the CIA, Bush, Clinton, Iran Contra, And Drug Running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gW7QwevFI

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