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Old 10-25-2017, 01:30 PM #181
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It was a while ago that you told us that the less common cannabinoids were going to be a major moneymaker for hemp growers, now its turning out to be the case. Is it safe to assume you have projects targeting other cannabinoids?
Most definitely! My biggest target right now are the propyls (i.e. -v). They are a challenge from a breeding perspective (spectrum rather than a switch) and I don't expect to have high concentrations in seed form for another 3 years honestly. The good news about the -varins though is that having those developed double our total number of cannabinoid types we can produce (CBD, CBG, THC + CBDV, CBGV, and THCV). The trick with -varins is that at least two independent lines must be simultaneously developed, then recombined once inbreeding stops becoming effective at increasing the total target cannabinoid fraction. We can do it, but it will definitely take some time.

We are always on the lookout for new plant varieties that are known to contain some "V" of any sort (CBDV, THCV, CBGV, etc.), as they are the building blocks of diversity required to create more pure lines later on.
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Here's a shot of the world's first CBG rosin, made by one of our employees on his Sasquash V2 press. Taffy-like consistency and eminently dab-able. The pain relief is instantaneous. Muscle spasms and the degenerative pains recede for 20-30 minutes following each hit. Different compounds help people in unique ways, but this one is the most profound cannabis medicine I have (personally) ever consumed.

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I was unaware of the benefits of CBG. Doesn't seem to be much research on it. I am very interested.
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Final test results on our pure CBG production clone for 2017. I can't stress enough how important it is to work with a lab that can produce accurate, replicable results. These numbers are much lower than you'll see from non-accredited labs in other states (more to come on that in the next week or so). Check out the LOQs (Limits of Quantification). Our lab (OG Analytical) is as good as they get. They can accurately report down to 0.1% on flower tests, which makes these results beyond fascinating.

First is from flower, second is from rosin (identical starting material). A lot of things making me go hmmmm in these. Previous test results produced equal parts CBD and THC, these did not. This species is so cool--I feel lucky for the chance to devote my life's energy to it. Hope you are all connecting the dots out there...

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to socioecologist again.

Learning curve too much? (questions apart) Huge props for keeping the industry pushing really forward fellow Human.

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How do you deal with the smell of a large scale farm? Don’t the neighbors find it a nuisance?
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Old 11-18-2017, 04:21 AM #187
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How do you deal with the smell of a large scale farm? Don’t the neighbors find it a nuisance?
Agriculture is a protected farming activity in Oregon. In general, farm use trumps all else (sorry to invoke his name). Marijuana is not yet in that category, but hemp is. So, in a legal sense, zero cares are given.

From a regular human perspective where our actions do have an impact on others: it depends on the farm. We haven't heard a single complaint about smell. Granted, our valley farms are in a premier agricultural area and everyone knows us and what we are doing--almost everyone farms and most farmers are curious about alternative crops (once they learn it won't get you high). Our mountain seed farm is 20 miles from anyone who would care; valley farms are generally tucked away out of sight, but the one that has many who pass by will be interesting next year. The county sheriff has already been out to that farm because someone reported us as an illegal marijuana grow this year. In the same way as it was in the old days, good human-to-human communication is key.
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I love data. See above. The chemotype divergence is obvious, but breeding pure CBG lines is not easy--proper candidates are proverbial needles in haystacks if you are trying to do this "right" (at least by my self-imposed definition). Good information here with these 209 data points; a god damn shame that we lost our lab (OG Analytical) because the owner is literally a neo-nazi. What an insane world we live in. We have temporarily lost one of the best minds in the cannabis chemistry world (Rodger Voelker) with the dissolution and firing of the entire staff after they unilaterally spoke out against Bethany "the nazi" Sherman.

CBC will be the next cannabinoid we release after CBG, but it will be at least a few more generations of inbreeding before we are ready to outcross for production. We will be running extended trials next winter (2018-19), as CBC expression is both genetic AND environmental, with low light conditions producing the highest concentrations.

For those of you who are interested, let's go over these charts. There's so much useful information to unpack here!

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I love data. See above. The chemotype divergence is obvious, but breeding pure CBG lines is not easy--proper candidates are proverbial needles in haystacks if you are trying to do this "right" (at least by my self-imposed definition). Good information here with these 209 data points; a god damn shame that we lost our lab (OG Analytical) because the owner is literally a neo-nazi. What an insane world we live in. We have temporarily lost one of the best minds in the cannabis chemistry world (Rodger Voelker) with the dissolution and firing of the entire staff after they unilaterally spoke out against Bethany "the nazi" Sherman.

CBC will be the next cannabinoid we release after CBG, but it will be at least a few more generations of inbreeding before we are ready to outcross for production. We will be running extended trials next winter (2018-19), as CBC expression is both genetic AND environmental, with low light conditions producing the highest concentrations.

For those of you who are interested, let's go over these charts. There's so much useful information to unpack here!
is it the same 209 seeds in each of the graphs here?

how do you read these charts?
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Final test results on our pure CBG production clone for 2017. I can't stress enough how important it is to work with a lab that can produce accurate, replicable results. These numbers are much lower than you'll see from non-accredited labs in other states (more to come on that in the next week or so). Check out the LOQs (Limits of Quantification). Our lab (OG Analytical) is as good as they get. They can accurately report down to 0.1% on flower tests, which makes these results beyond fascinating.

First is from flower, second is from rosin (identical starting material). A lot of things making me go hmmmm in these. Previous test results produced equal parts CBD and THC, these did not. This species is so cool--I feel lucky for the chance to devote my life's energy to it. Hope you are all connecting the dots out there...

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which dots are you talking about?

it looks to me like heating it during the rosin making is converting some CBGa to 4 other compounds but usually you get conversion to CBD as well?

you think altering time / temp /pressure during rosin making changes the conversion to other compounds here? or contamination by neo-nazis?

the dots I'm connecting from your posts is that you are on the verge of creating a legal world wide, cannabinoid rich cigarette with a mild relaxing buzz that is healthy and human positive.

you will crush big tobacco and black market weed with the same punch.

have you given any of that all CBG stuff to really sick people to see how it helps?
seizure patients, MS, etc.?
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