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Old 05-22-2019, 08:05 AM #421
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they dont need to prevent it to be cloned folks. they just have to get the gov to have rules that force any legal grower to buy the clones if want that registered patented GENOTYPE.

monsanto does this and why farmers are forced to purchase seeds now and cannot grow from there own seed stock... prettty fd up! monsanto sued guys who did saying could be cross pollinated with there patented canola etc.
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:02 PM #422
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Or we could just keep growing it illegally like we have since it was first outlawed in the 1300's, the 1700's, the 1800's and the 1900's...
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Do you think it is possible to get it to change sex or go to autoflower before it roots?

Would there be a viable alternative type of prevention?
Not change sex no, auto flower is easy and feminised autos are the easiest line to protect, but they won't be running lines, they will be running specific clones. So they won't want autos. And they'll obviously be female clones, so feminised seeds or regular makes no difference to the clones, so where's the advantage to the lab to make them that way? Unless they release b grade seeds to commercial farmers a la Monsanto.
The stuff sold by the ton to pharma will be their own exclusive clone for repeatable ratios. The way they will protect it is the same way everything of value is protected, high security, legal contracts and lobbying for favourable laws.
Breeders rights etc only apply to stuff that others will get their hands on. And then only restrict visible growers.
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Luckily we have an extensive underground in the cannabis community, so we will not be reliant on upstart jokers.

Still anticipating that p-13 clone though
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Old 05-22-2019, 08:55 PM #426
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Though in the 70's they probably didn't even see weed getting this good.

lol, I hear this a lot.......I was smoking then and I'm still smoking now and I'd rather have one gram of a tropical sativa grown that was grown in the ground and under the sun than an ounce of just about any modern hybrid that was grown under lights in 8 weeks....why? because it's all about the quality of the high.

Today's bud smells great, tastes great, finishes flowering in 8 weeks not 5 months, yields 3 times more and is stronger but the highs are mostly boring with a short duration...when was the last time you were exhilarated or inspired or delighted and high for 4 hours after smoking a joint of today's bud? When was the last time you had laughed so much that your stomach hurt next day? When was the last time you had a creative thought after smoking today's hybrids?

Most bud nowadays gives a short, strong, boring buzz, I just can't call it a "high", it's more like a "low" as it dumbs down and doesn't uplift.

Just pictures from a cannabis cup way back it all looked like trash

Back in the 70's it was always about the quality of the high, looks or smell never mattered (why would it?)...the only reason I smoke cannabis is to get high. Now days, it's all about looks, smell, flowering duration, yield....the quality of the high is not mentioned most of the time.

I was wrong, I really thought that as soon as the US, California especially became legal then we would see every one growing sativas that take 5 ~ 6 months to complete flowering...but instead all we see is more fatter, faster, stronger, bigger hybrids that have boring, monotone effects.

The high from today's buds is about as good as practicing guitar in your room, the high from a great 70's tropical sativa was like playing a lead guitar solo in front of 10,000 cheering fans...that's the difference, but you can keep smoking your pretty, scented buds and I'll keep smoking my sun grown sativas.
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Not true as much you say you are are just wrong PHYLOS has no DEA permits.
I am not defending any of PHYLOS actions, I am correcting the Tin-Foil-Hat wearers, accusers that have zero idea of the truth.

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^^^ That won't happen.

Phylos and it's partners have had DEA approval for long time now and we'll leave it at that.

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Are you going to make a definitive statement at a later date Sam,?,,, is it basically still up in the air atm?,, il let you lead then il check ya footsteps
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My wife is a liver transplant and also need Meds daily from Big Pharma or she will reject her liver.
I know about her liver transplant thing was reading about that last night.
Must be hard dealing with that seeing the liver is very important for health.
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