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Idiot Terrorist Strike in NY

Weird

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My personal hatred is reserved for spiders. Fuckn 8 legged fly eating web spinning bastards.


you used a poignant example I have been meaning to bring to this conversation

many of our biases are biologically rooted

the fear of spiders is real and born from necessity at one time in our evolutionary development but is it still rational today?

this biologically rooted reactions are what are exploited

from sugar alcohol race gender sexuality and tobacco companies to government business and even the religions

it is part of our nature to exploit others for our own benefit and once against evolutionary even this behavior is rooted in our biology, but once again is it still rational today to follow it?
 

Weird

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just because something feels right doesn't make it logical

isn't that how most noobs fuck up their garden? more feed more water more plant right?
 

justanotherbozo

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igrowone

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i just can't let go of this pathetic fuck of a terrorist
seems to have blown off his man package, wonder if he didn't blind himself too
makes a hell of a recruiting poster
' end up blind and impotent, to be peed on by dogs and mocked by beggars'
i do have a rough sense of humor
 

Mikell

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Raise your hand if you knew shit about Israel before the Orange Nitwit tweeted about it.
 

vta

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i just can't let go of this pathetic fuck of a terrorist
seems to have blown off his man package, wonder if he didn't blind himself too
makes a hell of a recruiting poster
' end up blind and impotent, to be peed on by dogs and mocked by beggars'
i do have a rough sense of humor

Sounds like he will be more of a taker then a giver in prison lol


Now this just in....

NYC jihad bomber’s family “outraged by the behavior of law enforcement officials”

Dec 11, 2017 7:49 pm By Robert Spencer

And they have Hamas-linked CAIR’s lawyer speaking for them. What’s more, it isn’t even clear what supposed enormity they think law enforcement officials committed. But whatever it is, clearly they’re going in hard for the “We are the true victims” ploy.

“NYC terror suspect’s family ‘heartbroken’ by attack,” by Tara Fowler and Emily Shapiro, ABC News, December 11, 2017:

The family of the man accused of detonating an explosive in the New York City subway system this morning said they are “heartbroken” by the allegations.

The explosion occurred in an underground passageway near the Port Authority Bus Terminal, sending commuters scrambling to evacuate a major transit hub just blocks from Times Square. Despite the rush-hour crowds, only five people suffered minor injuries, officials said.

The 27-year-old suspect, Akayed Ullah, is in the hospital, badly injured in the arm and torso from the device that went off in his arms, law enforcement sources said.

“We are heartbroken by the violence that was targeted at our city today, and by the allegations being made against a member of our family,” the family said in a statement, which was read in front of the Ullah family’s home in Brooklyn by Albert Fox Cahn, legal director for Council on American-Islamic Relations-New York.

“But we are also outraged by the behavior of law enforcement officials who have held children as small as 4 years old out in the cold and who held a teenager out of high school classes to interrogate him without a lawyer, without his parents,” the statement continued. “These are not the sorts of actions that we expect from our justice system, and we have every confidence that our justice system will find the truth behind this attack and that we will, in the end, be able to learn what occurred today.”

It’s not clear who the children and the teenager referred to in the statement are….
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Interesting report from that jihadi watch website on Gert Wilders in Holland.

Geert Wilders: Pew Research study on Muslim migration confirms it is “time to get tough”

Dec 12, 2017 8:09 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

Dutch Parliamentarian and the leader of the Party for Freedom in The Netherlands, Geert Wilders, warns…


The bell is tolling for Europe. All the warning signs are turned on red. A demographic catastrophe is in the making. If Europe fails to make a stand, its Judeo-Christian civilization is about to be blown away.

And now a Pew research study has verified that even if the mass influx of Muslim refugees into Europe ended now, that the Muslim population will continue to surge…We must have the courage to protect our borders and introduce travel bans, as President Trump is doing in the US…

Two years ago, the Washington Post published an article entitled: “Europe’s fear of Muslim refugees echoes rhetoric of 1930s anti-Semitism,” which — as is evident from the title — compared those who have concerns about the massive Muslim influx into Europe to the Nazis of the 1930’s, ready to murder Jews by the millions. The article absurdly stated that “part of that hostility was fueled, as some of the European grievances are now, by stereotypes of the refugees as harbingers of a dangerous ideology.”

Comparison of Muslims and Jews has become an offensive habit among groups that are advancing their pro-migration agenda. It was Muslims, including the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who worked with the Nazis toward their goal of wiping out the Jewish race. It is eyebrow raising that even some Jews of today — whose families experienced the Holocaust — indulge in such bizarre comparisons between Nazism and responsible
concerns about the Muslim hijrah. The Jews were targeted only because of their race, and lies were spun against them to fan the flames of racism, hatred and ultimately mass murder.

Muslims are not being targeted because of intolerance. Islam is not a race. Mass Muslim migration into Europe has proven to be a menace; given valid security threats posed to European society and culture, there is reason to be troubled about their hijrah into Europe, and more broadly, into the West. No one would have thought that in so short a space of time, Europe would house sharia patrols, sharia courts, proliferating and expanding no-go zones, and would be home to harmful cultural practices including FGM, honor violence, the religiously mandated taking of infidel women through mass rapes. Muslim hate preachers openly proclaim doctrines of death for apostasy, homosexuality, as well as call for death to Jews and preach the inferior status of women (including wife beating and spousal rape). Now drives to shut down free speech using the victimhood narrative of “Islamophobia” is ever-expanding. More important is the historically expansionist Islamic ideology that divides the world into two camps: the House of War (Dar al harb) and the House of Islam (Dar al Islam).

The goal to Islamize Europe, about which Geert Wilders has long warned, is rooted in such doctrine:

Significantly, the Islamic calendar counts the hijrah, not Muhammad’s birth or the occasion of his first “revelation,” as the beginning of Islam, implying that Islam is not fully itself without a political and military component.

To emigrate in the cause of Allah – that is, to move to a new land in order to bring Islam there, is considered in Islam to be a highly meritorious act. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance,” says the Qur’an.

“And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah.

According to Wilders, if Europe continues to “leave the door open,” it will “soon be driven out of it,” losing its identity and freedoms. He further warns:

Instead of being soft, Europe must be tough. If we fail, our national identity will be in danger, our freedom will be in jeopardy, the Europe we know will cease to exist. And, as the Pew figures show, it will cease to exist soon.

Given the chaos that has gripped Europe, Wilders’ longtime warnings are obviously accurate.

“Wilders: The Pew Report on Muslim Migration to Europe is a Wake-up Call — It is Time to Get Tough”, by Geert Wilders, Breitbart, December 11, 2017:

The bell is tolling for Europe. All the warning signs are turned on red. A demographic catastrophe is in the making. If Europe fails to make a stand, its Judeo-Christian civilization is about to be blown away.

Last week, the renowned Pew Research Center published updated figures about the growing Muslim population in the broader EU region (i.e. the 28 European Union member states plus Switzerland and Norway). The figures are truly dramatic. Unless there are radical changes to the present policies towards immigration, 30.6% of the population in Sweden will be Islamic by the middle of the century. Sweden is as good as finished.

But the situation elsewhere is hardly better. 19.7% in Germany, 18% in France, 17.2 % in Britain, and 15.2% in the Netherlands. This is what Pew expects to happen if the migration patterns continue at the 2014-2016 levels. Pew also calculated what will happen if the current refugee crisis comes to an end but regular immigration continues at present level.

Under this scenario, the number of Muslims by 2050 is still bound to rise to 20.5% in Sweden, 17.4% in France, 16.7% in the UK, 12.5% in the Netherlands, and 10.8% in Germany.

Last week, I posted a tweet with a picture from the Pew report, accompanied by the text “An existential problem: our population is being replaced. And it will get much worse if we don’t de-Islamise soon!” A few hours later, the tweet was censored in France. In the country of President Emmanuel Macron, the people are not allowed to know the truth.

The proliferation of Islam is bad news for Europe; the threat of Islamic terrorism is omnipresent. This Christmas season, concrete barriers have become a familiar sight around festive markets all over Western Europe.

But Europe has also become acquainted with female genital mutilation, honour killings, polygamy, rising anti-Semitism, and appalling examples of misogyny. Recent academic studies indicate that the vast majority of European Muslims find their Islamic rules more important than Europe’s secular democratic laws, while significant numbers (up to 11% in the Netherlands according to the University of Amsterdam) find it acceptable to use violence in the name of Islam.

More Islam means more violence and intolerance.

Unfortunately, Europe’s demographics might shift even more rapidly than Pew predicts. As Breitbart London pointed out, immigration trends tend to be at – and often beyond – the highest projections established by migration observatories. Moreover, Pew seems to be cautious in its calculations.

Last February, Elsevier Magazine, the Dutch equivalent of Newsweek, asked researchers to calculate what the effects of immigration would be for the Netherlands. They predicted that, in case of a ‘generous’ immigration policy, the Islamic population will surge from 7% today to 19% by 2060. In case of a continuation at the present levels, it will hit 14%. This is well over the Pew predictions.

Pew also overlooks a very important demographic fact relating to the influx of 2 million so-called ‘refugees’ into Europe in 2015-2016. Not only were 78% of these ‘refugees’ Muslims, but they were overwhelmingly young males. Of the 1.1 million ‘refugees’ in Germany alone, 800,000 were males below 25 years of age.

Pew is also looking exclusively at the effects of Islamic immigration. Islam is, indeed, the largest threat to Europe’s Judeo-Christian and humanist civilization, but the devastating effect of mass immigration is much broader.

In 2010-2016, 53% of all migrants to Europe were Muslims, while 47% were non-Muslim. Both groups consist to a large extent of young males. They are an enormous strain on Europe’s welfare systems. What we get are mostly unskilled and low-skilled workers, who do not benefit our societies but only cost us money. Over half of the people on welfare in the Netherlands today are non-Western immigrants.

If nothing happens, worse is still to come. The African population is bound to quadruple from its present one billion to four billion by the end of the century. One-third of the Africans want to move abroad. Many want to come to Europe. Over half of the African population is Islamic and they are the fastest growing group.

Last week, at the Europe-Africa summit in Abidjan, Ivory Coast, the European countries agreed to mobilize billions of investments for Africa. This is money down the drain. Billions of development money are already spent in Africa each year, which either end up in the hands of corrupt regimes or benefit the middle class which is exactly the group of people most eager to emigrate to Europe……

The EU policy is a march of folly. More than six million migrants are currently waiting in countries around the Mediterranean to cross into Europe. Because they break in through the back windows, the EU is opening the front door of ‘the house of Europe.’

This is not what we want. We have to stop the suicidal madness of the EU elites. We must stop the millions wanting to come to the ‘house of Europe’, because this house is our house.

If we leave the door open, we will soon be driven out of it. We will lose our identity and our freedom. Our existence is at stake. We must safeguard it. This can only be done if we have to courage to adopt a new strategy. As Winston Churchill said: “Courage is the greatest virtue because it guarantees all the rest.”

Instead of acting as a magnet to young Africans and Asians, Europe has to have the courage to be exactly the opposite. We must have the courage to protect our borders and introduce travel bans, as President Trump is doing in the US.

The courage to send every boat with illegal migrants back, as Australia does. The courage to restrict legal immigration instead of expanding it. The courage to start the immediate repatriation of illegal immigrants. The courage to de-Islamize, and be unwelcoming to Islam. Instead of being soft, Europe must be tough. If we fail, our national identity will be in danger, our freedom will be in jeopardy, the Europe we know will cease to exist. And, as the Pew figures show, it will cease to exist soon.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/geert-wilders-pew-research-study-confirms-it-is-time-to-get-tough
 
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"Even after all this time, the sun never says to the earth, 'you owe me.' Look what happens with a love like that! It lights up the whole sky."

Kwaja Shams-ud-Din Muhammad Hafez
 

GMT

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What I don't understand is if you hate somewhere enough to want to leave it, why would you want to recreate it where you move to?
 
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What I don't understand is if you hate somewhere enough to want to leave it, why would you want to recreate it where you move to?

Usually people move to raise their standard of living.
Maybe they hate their government but like their culture.

Better to to change the government than move somewhere else but that is not always a realistic possibility so they move.

I think a person should do their best to assimilate if they are moving to a different culture but most people are still tribal minded and weak and cling to what they know
 

Hermanthegerman

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rotflmao

...you think the average german is happy about the influx of tens of thousands of muslims and the resulting violence?

...i spent a year in Wiesbaden back in my youth and i'm betting the native born germans aren't liking Angela too much these days, lol.

bozo

...btw, yankees come from the northeast and hillbillies come from the south so you not only prove what an asshole you are with the personal attack, you also prove what an ignorant fool you are, maybe you should have paid more attention in school.

If I read such things like that inhumane what you wrote or things like bomb rakka or nuke north korea, I have to puke. Fools like you know nothing. Your horizon goes from the westcoast to the eastcoast and thats it. The people in Japan or Europe know what it means if thousends of innocent die in air raids or in atomic explosions. Human rights are not only for americans and europeans.



:tiphat:
 

CosmicGiggle

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If I read such things like that inhumane what you wrote or things like bomb rakka or nuke north korea, I have to puke. Fools like you know nothing. Your horizon goes from the westcoast to the eastcoast and thats it. The people in Japan or Europe know what it means if thousends of innocent die in air raids or in atomic explosions. Human rights are not only for americans and europeans.



:tiphat:

Well said Herman!:tiphat:
 
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Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send [or bring] peace, but a sword." -Jesus Christ

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

— Luke 22:36,
 
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“Be kind, for whenever kindness becomes part of something, it beautifies it. Whenever it is taken from something, it leaves it tarnished.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The best among you is the one who doesn’t harm others with his tongue and hands.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“A good man treats women with honour.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The greatest of richness is the richness of the soul.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“There is reward for kindness to every living thing.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The greatest jihad (struggle/striving) is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The strongest among you is the one who controls his anger.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“God does not look at your forms and possessions but he looks at your hearts and your deeds.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

Riches are not from an abundance of worldly good but from a contented mind.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Exchange gifts, you will love one another.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The best among you are those who have the best manners and character.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“No two things have been combined better than knowledge and patience.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Tell people of glad tidings and do not push them away.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The best of houses is the house where an orphan gets love and kindness.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The believer does not slander, curse, or speak in an obscene or foul manner.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“A kind word is a form of charity.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“A father gives nothing better than good education.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Feed the hungry and visit a sick person, and free the captive, if he be unjustly confined. Assist any person oppressed whether Muslim or non-Muslim.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Seek knowledge from cradle to the grave.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Do not waste water even if you were at a running stream.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“A white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good actions.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart give it up.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“He is not a true believer who eats his fill while his neighbour is hungry.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“However much the faith of a man increases, his regard for women increases.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“What has reached you was never meant to miss you, and what has missed you was never meant to reach you.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“When you see a person who has been given more than you in money and beauty. Look to those, who have been given less.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Speak good or remain silent.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Make things easy for people and not difficult. Give people good news and bring them joy, and do not turn them away.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Remember your own faults when you want to mention of others.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“Those who are patient in adversity and forgive wrongs are the doers of excellence.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

“The most perfect man in his faith among the believers is the one whose behaviour is most excellent, and the best of you are those who are the best to their wives.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

Happy is the man who avoids hardship, but how fine is the man who is afflicted and shows endurance.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 
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moose eater

There's a lot of people in this thread who deserve a huge thank you for trying to better our species and cultures.

Hate's become like those cheap mass-produced toys that fail to differentiate from store to store. No problem finding them, but even in a pinch, you just don't need to buy any.

Thank you ~water, Cosmic, Herman, Weird, Mikell, cooter, Mustard, and others. It's too easy to lose hope in any meaningful evolution of spirit in all of this. Thank you for holding up the mirror.

Anyone who grew up surrounded by hate or violence knows the open wounds that come from folks spewing it further. Hate the individual or specific doers if need be. It's human. Hating on it all because of some is just fucking lazy and often a cloak trying to hide more real motives..

"There is none good, nay not one..."

A sinner. Sometimes still seething.

Forgive us for our sins, as we (hopefully) know not what we do.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Ten Obvious Reasons Why
Islam is Not a Religion of Peace




#1

18,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).

#2

Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women.

Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#3

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger." In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#4

After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other.

Fatima, Muhammad's favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died. She even miscarried Muhammad's grandchild after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph.

It was this same caliph, Umar, who ordered the death of the first convert to Islam at Medina, an elderly leader who became a close companion to Muhammad and proved his worth in battle. Sa'd ibn Ubadah was killed after a failed bid to be caliph.

Fatima's husband Ali, who was the second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad's favorite wife - and one whom he had said was a "perfect woman." 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single internal battle waged less than 25 years after Muhammad's death.

Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad's closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad's two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.

The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad's family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time. Within 50 short years of Muhammad's death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war...

And that's just the fate of those within the house of Islam!

#5

Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them into submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands. A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the modern borders of over 28 countries outside of Saudi Arabia.

#6

Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

None of these other religions are at war with each other.

#7

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

#8

Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

#9

The Quran never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but there are hundreds of verses that speak of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims.

#10

"Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)
 

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