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Milo Yiannopoulos....What an interesting person.

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Yard dog

Lol, the old Mexican states are full of Mexicans seems they have already taken it back. :)

Not to mention Mexico was stolen from the Native Americans long before America stole it from Mexicans.

But you want to know what Islam did to the Jews ask a Jew from Lebanon pretty eye opening about the religion of peace. If you could call it peaceful killing a Jew is no worse than killing a dog under Sharia law.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymo-kjn8PtQ

Really most of the Middle East has a travel ban on Jews....

No religion is peaceful, shall we look at Bosnia 22 years ago for how peaceful Christians still are?
By the way the travel ban is on Israel not Jews (though Saudi may be different), facts hey.... I think it is due to the fact they don't recognise the state of Israel!!
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
No religion is peaceful, shall we look at Bosnia 22 years ago for how peaceful Christians still are?
By the way the travel ban is on Israel not Jews (though Saudi may be different), facts hey.... I think it is due to the fact they don't recognise the state of Israel!!

Looks like it was Muslims vs Christians haven't looked much into Bosnia before. Sounds pretty much like what's going to end up going down in Europe if they keep bringing in millions of Muslims. People are getting really pissed off with the terrorist attacks and rape it's just the culture in the Middle East, but Europeans will only take so much and they ain't all Christian I'm sure most of them are pretty open minded like majority of American Christians.

. Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence also played an active role during 1992–1995 and secretly supplied the Muslim fighters with arms, ammunition and guided anti tank missiles to give them a fighting chance against the Serbs. Pakistan defied the UN's ban on supply of arms to Bosnian Muslims and General Javed Nasir later claimed that Pakistan's intelligence agency, ISI, had airlifted anti-tank guided missiles to Bosnia which ultimately turned the tide in favour of Bosnian Muslims and forced the Serbs to lift the siege.

As for Israel, well they ain't going away without genocide and they will launch their nukes if that happens. So they should be recognized, they aren't keeping Muslims from visiting the Holy Land nor should any religion.
 
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Yard dog

Ain't no mass rape, I live among Muslims.. Most terrorists are home grown, if Muslim countries weren't bombed all the time they wouldn't need to move.
Bosnia was genocide or ethnic cleansing, Sponsored by the UN (They prob did more rape)...
Israel should be recognised because they have nukes? wtf is that shit....
Anyway will get back to you as comp is playing up and don't want this to go like curb your enthusiasm's chicken shop episode....
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
Ain't no mass rape, I live among Muslims.. Most terrorists are home grown, if Muslim countries weren't bombed all the time they wouldn't need to move.
Can't say I hear of many home grown terrorists in Europe or the UK. Sure we have the occasional American killing people but Muslims come here just to suicide bomb and shit.

Of course the bombings are a bunch of bullshit but we can make sanctuary cities in the Middle East, no need for mass immigration we have safe zones in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just absolutely no thought went into Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc. in reality the shit going down is mostly if not all are proxy wars between Saudi Arabia and Israel against Iran and all their allies.

If we would change the tune of the whole let them in, don't let them in and demand an end of the Wars like Obama promised.. We wouldn't have refugees they can live however they like not any of our business. We have plenty of military and guns if they actually come for us. But everyone is too worried about how Trump won when there is shit going on that actually matters.
Bosnia was genocide or ethnic cleansing, Sponsored by the UN (They prob did more rape)...

It was a war with more than one side with a lot less deaths than the Civil War 258,000 Confederate soldiers died and 279,689 Union soldiers died. Bosnia 101,000 with much better weapons.
Israel should be recognised because they have nukes? wtf is that shit....
Anyway will get back to you as comp is playing up and don't want this to go like curb your enthusiasm's chicken shop episode....
Yeah, of course Israel needs to be recognized I heard they have 200 nukes and a damn strong military. Ain't nobody going to get away with an Israeli genocide. Whether you believe they should or shouldn't be there they ain't going to leave. We have a better chance at making Korea whole again. Lol

Would be nice to see Korea whole but millions will die on both sides.
 

Storm Shadow

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United States is retarded for letting dual citizens in its government... no nation on Earth does that... we do.. and its only for Israeli citizens

Double standards for Israel will never be tolerated ... they have an arsenal of nukes that could wipe anyone off the face of the solar system.... yet because god chose them .. they get to have weapons of mass destruction and nobody is allowed to say or know anything lol... thats hilarious ... goodness gracious.. the axis of evil Israel/Saudi/USA cant get over the fact Russia/Iran/Syria smashed ISIS into dust .... these Iranian protest are funny too... time to hang some treasonous spies in the public square and show off to the world what happens when u accept shekels at the cost of selling out your own folks :)
 

944s2

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Ain't no mass rape, I live among Muslims.. Most terrorists are home grown, if Muslim countries weren't bombed all the time they wouldn't need to move.
Bosnia was genocide or ethnic cleansing, Sponsored by the UN (They prob did more rape)...
Israel should be recognised because they have nukes? wtf is that shit....
Anyway will get back to you as comp is playing up and don't want this to go like curb your enthusiasm's chicken shop episode....

Steady Yard dog,,,two sides of the coin for bosnia and serbia,,atrocities on both sides,,,,,
I am from Tower Hamlets so know quite a bit about living with muslims,,the rapes the chap is talking about?
i think he may be refering to Sweden and Germany although we have had a few over here like those kebab shop migrant rapists in Margate etc,etc,,etc ,,,,,
Yes sadly a lot of terrorists are home grown,,not too many in London but loads outside of the m25 and for that i dont know why???,,,,,,,,s2:tiphat:
 
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Yard dog

Nah mate, The Serbs feared that the Muslims were getting in with the Croats and they didn't like that, As soon as Bosnia-Herz was recognised they started cleansing it was 1 sided..
They are all Slavs to start but have different beliefs. The Serbs are Orth Christians with a strong dislike for Muslims that goes back to the Ottoman empire, Croats were western influenced and mostly Roman Catholics.. Both speak a common language but can/could tell each other apart from dialect.. If the write you can easily tell apart as Croat will use Roman alphabet like us whilst Serbs will go Russian...
The Muslims were in the middle and had Islamic beliefs as they converted in the 15th century originally they believed in Bogomil..
The Serbs and Croats always feared one would take over and for a bit the leader was Serb, the Military was Serb and Belgrade was Serb.. in about 41 (during the war said as Unc Albert) the Croats saw a chance to topple the Serb power and set up a fascist state which included Bosnia.
This then led to a civil war were about 1million Yugoslavians died and the Serbs were attacked/persecuted.
Tito then came and both the Serbs and Croats hated him, the Muslims were more or less stuck there in the middle but communism kept them together as it didn't allow nationalism and Tito kept telling them about how Russia wanted to take their land etc..
Bosnia is made up of all sides but happens/happened to be were the Muslims are and they had about 40 per cent of the population in Bosnia then the Serbs had about 30 odd per cent and for the most part they got on, Bosnians had no probs with Serbs or Croats..
When Yugoslavia began to fall apart they all knew what was coming, the Bosnians were in the middle and if you were Muslim well you were fucked.. all the army places in Bosnia were Serb!! Before war broke out fully the Serbs refused whatsoever to come to the table as they had their own plan!! The Croats said we don't mind us all breaking up and getting the land etc as did the Bosnians but the Serbs boycotted.. So 65 odd per cent said yes to independence on no ethic grounds, the Serbs said fuck off!!
The Serbs had the Army majority and the weapons to go with it, the Croats and Bosnians had to import their weapons under a UN/EC ban...
Now as Bosnia was next to Serbia it was a bit obvious that the Serbs were going to try to take that land by whatever means and that they did on the 1st day by taking control of a Muslim district and stating you either sign an oath of loyalty to us and hand over any weapons or if you refuse we will take the men and do as we like, well it didn't matter as they did what they liked regardless..
Around 2 million were moved from their homes, the Serbs used to send names to the UN and tell them to expect the women and children as they were now refugees... they targeted the Muslims..
So when you say 2 sides to every story, forgive me but I don't really see it...
 

Cannavore

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Sounds pretty much like what's going to end up going down in Europe if they keep bringing in millions of Muslims. People are getting really pissed off with the terrorist attacks and rape it's just the culture in the Middle East,

Except that Europe's rape numbers are barely any different than our own in the US and we're not bringing in millions of Muslims.

And before you point out Sweden, they count each rape as a crime. So for example if I raped my wife 100 times that would count as 100 rape charges. In the US and other countries, they don't count it that way.

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Cannavore

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You said it yourself "he would have done whatever it took to keep the union together."
yes because the future of the country was more important. it doesn't mean he was pro slavery just because he might not've abolished it right away. by that logic any one living in that time that could have done something to end slavery, but didn't, is a white supremacist.

Lincoln would have allowed slavery to keep the Union together... So exactly how was it all about slavery??
i doubt he would have allowed it indefinitely. read the declarations of secession by the confederate states. it paints a pretty clear picture of how it's all about slavery. the only time states rights are argued is when they want to right of the state to take away the rights of others.


Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant and a white supremacist.
half the country was in rebellion against the union. the only people that see him as a tyrant today are the neo-confederate history revisionists that say the civil war was based on taxes and states rights lol.

i'd imagine most people in the 1800's were racists and white supremacists. this is hardly a shocking statement.



We can go around and around on Abraham Lincoln "the great emancipator" LMAO.

I was just like you once, I always thought Abraham Lincoln was a great man possibly the best president. Of course then someone told me he was a tyrant and a white supremacist with facts and I fact checked and fact checked and oh yeah, it's true.

Sure you can spew all the government propaganda you want but Lincoln was a tyrant and a white supremacist. I don't agree with the man or his actions. Thank God he was assassinated, we would not have all the good music if it wasn't for John Wilkes Booth not even jazz, damn sure not hip hop. I love black people America would be boring without them.:tiphat:

since when is accurately reporting history an admission of whether i like or dislike someone? i've repeatedly said in here that Hitler is a fascist and not a socialist because it's correct. that doesn't mean i'm a fan of hitler, fascism, or socialism.... just a fan of the facts and truth.
 

vta

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"What 'multiculturalism' boils down to is that you can praise any culture in the world except Western culture—and you cannot blame any culture in the world except Western culture."

Thomas Sowell‏
 

Cannavore

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unless you're a full blooded native american, we're all sons and daughters of immigrants, and American culture at it's roots is a culture of immigrants (multiculturalism). and if you think they all came here legally then i also have a bridge to sell you.
 

jidoka

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"What 'multiculturalism' boils down to is that you can praise any culture in the world except Western culture—and you cannot blame any culture in the world except Western culture."

Thomas Sowell‏

Please define “western culture”.
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
yes because the future of the country was more important. it doesn't mean he was pro slavery just because he might not've abolished it right away. by that logic any one living in that time that could have done something to end slavery, but didn't, is a white supremacist.


i doubt he would have allowed it indefinitely. read the declarations of secession by the confederate states. it paints a pretty clear picture of how it's all about slavery. the only time states rights are argued is when they want to right of the state to take away the rights of others.



half the country was in rebellion against the union. the only people that see him as a tyrant today are the neo-confederate history revisionists that say the civil war was based on taxes and states rights lol.

i'd imagine most people in the 1800's were racists and white supremacists. this is hardly a shocking statement.





since when is accurately reporting history an admission of whether i like or dislike someone? i've repeatedly said in here that Hitler is a fascist and not a socialist because it's correct. that doesn't mean i'm a fan of hitler, fascism, or socialism.... just a fan of the facts and truth.

Over 600,000 Americans died and Lincoln didn't care if the Confederacy kept slaves just to save the precious Union. The same Union that is bombing people all over the Middle East and Africa.

That is a tyrant and I'm not a neo Confederate just an American who dreams of a revolution to restore freedom.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Western Culture.

Western culture, sometimes equated with Western civilization, Western lifestyle or European civilization, is a term used very broadly to refer to a heritage of social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, political systems, and specific artifacts and technologies that have some origin or association with Europe.

The term has come to apply to countries whose history is strongly marked by European immigration, such as the countries of the Americas and Australasia, and is not restricted to the continent of Europe.

Western culture is characterized by a host of artistic, philosophic, literary, and legal themes and traditions; the heritage of Celtic, Germanic, Hellenic, Jewish, Slavic, Latin, and other ethnic and linguistic groups, as well as Christianity, which played an important part in the shaping of Western civilization since at least the 4th century.

Also contributing to Western thought, in ancient times and then in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance onwards, a tradition of rationalism in various spheres of life, developed by Hellenistic philosophy, Scholasticism, humanism, the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment.

Values of Western culture have, throughout history, been derived from political thought, widespread employment of rational argument favouring freethought, assimilation of human rights, the need for equality, and democracy.

Historical records of Western culture in Europe begin with Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome.

Western culture continued to develop with Christianization during the Middle Ages, the reform and modernization triggered by the Renaissance, and with globalization by successive European empires, that spread European ways of life and European educational methods around the world between the 16th and 20th centuries.

European culture developed with a complex range of philosophy, medieval scholasticism and mysticism, and Christian and secular humanism.

Rational thinking developed through a long age of change and formation, with the experiments of the Enlightenment, and breakthroughs in the sciences.

With its global connection, European culture grew with an all-inclusive urge to adopt, adapt, and ultimately influence other cultural trends around the world.

Tendencies that have come to define modern Western societies include the existence of political pluralism, prominent subcultures or countercultures (such as New Age movements), and increasing cultural syncretism -- resulting from globalization and human migration.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/western_culture.htm
 
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Over 600,000 Americans died and Lincoln didn't care if the Confederacy kept slaves just to save the precious Union. The same Union that is bombing people all over the Middle East and Africa.

That is a tyrant and I'm not a neo Confederate just an American who dreams of a revolution to restore freedom.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Restore freedom?

The freedom to own slaves?

What freedoms are you saying you are willing to die for in your revolution?
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
Restore freedom?

The freedom to own slaves?

What freedoms are you saying you are willing to die for in your revolution?

LMAO, Slaves? Come on now.

No, the freedom to tend my farm with my family and friends and not pay property taxes. No vehicle registration, inspection, down right the freedom to travel!! The freedom to keep 100% of my income and not be taxed on everything I buy! Freedom Freedom Freedom!! Freedom to take and/or sell drugs of course if it's cut with a deadly chemical the merchant should be hung.

No tyrannical government bombing people all over the world the only military I support is for tyrants trying to take our freedom, really all of Congress.

I want black, white, brown and yellow people to have the same freedom. I want them to fight with me, brothers in arms! By the end we can divide land of the tyrants equally.

I know a lot of people of every race, color and religion would be down.

I don't see how you don't understand slavery had very little to do with the Civil War. It was a fight against a tyrannical white supremacist!!! Abraham Lincoln would have kept slavery to keep the tyrannical Union!

Robert E. Lee was a Union general as well but he changed sides because of the tyrant Abraham Lincoln. The Union put a 40% tariff on the South.

. Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all.

"My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.

"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.

I'm not for slavery, just freedom, liberty and justice for all! (including black, brown, red and yellow people) the Union built the railroad out west after the War and at one point you could be paid per scalp of Native Americans you murdered.

Down with the Union!! :pirate:
 

gaiusmarius

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it sounds great, no tax, freedom from government, no cops, right to do what i please as long as i don't infringe on another's rights, but what happens when a gang of criminals arms up and decides to take what is mine? of course in this scenario i'm armed and my family is too, but will i need to be trained in artillery and tank operation. whats to stop this ideal state of freedom from being taken from you and your family murdered by someone more armed with bigger numbers etc.

while i agree we (in the west) have problems, we also have a great life and before you risk all that for some hypothetical utopia, you better look at history, most revolutions end up with worse then they started with.

for sure people should pay less taxes, specially the money spent on military all over the world seems a prime candidate to cut, but to maintain a society with a relatively safe life with rules that most agree to follow, you will always need to tax to some extent. you do need some police after all and an army so you don't end up getting invaded. you need a roads, hospitals, Bridges, Schools etc after all.
 

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