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The Black Hand of California thats Jim Crow

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h.h.

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American Indians held slaves just saying. Aztecs or Mayans the same. The original African slaves were sold by other rival tribes and sometimes were on the ship they came in on and were already dying on.

I find it sad the Jews always get included in these race or greedy type threads. They are just better at the game it seems to me. Game being exploit land and people for gain. They also hold more science advances than any other group by percentage. THC discovery being one for this site. Many other beneficial discoveries.

The 'woke' types here complaining on hating is sad/funny too. Hypocrites.
That excuses everything then. As a country had a right to hold our workers captive. After all Timmy did it.
 

Absolem

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I was 16 sitting in a car with buddies at a park drinking. Super dumb. Cop lights us up. Had two twelve packs on us and I had weed. Driver is 16 and my other buddy was the passenger. Cop gets us out then dumps out the beer and takes my weed. Had barely a bowls worth. Cop asks my buddy if he can drive. Nope. Asks me if I could drive. Nope. Asks the 15 year old passenger if he had a learners permit. Yup. Cop... can you drive? Yes. Cop ok. You drive and I'll follow you guys to where this car is registered. If I catch you guys out again tonight you are going to jail. Got my ass home and was freaking out.

Curious what would have happened if we weren't' white boys. System didn't pull us in. Not everybody is that lucky. When the system gets ya in it's net it's a pain to get out. Too many people get caught in the system with rap sheets for minor shit. Harder to get hired.
The system favors certain races. Such as the color of the MAGA thugs/rioters at the Capitol who were taking selfies with the cops.
 

'Boogieman'

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I was 16 sitting in a car with buddies at a park drinking. Super dumb. Cop lights us up. Had two twelve packs on us and I had weed. Driver is 16 and my other buddy was the passenger. Cop gets us out then dumps out the beer and takes my weed. Had barely a bowls worth. Cop asks my buddy if he can drive. Nope. Asks me if I could drive. Nope. Asks the 15 year old passenger if he had a learners permit. Yup. Cop... can you drive? Yes. Cop ok. You drive and I'll follow you guys to where this car is registered. If I catch you guys out again tonight you are going to jail. Got my ass home and was freaking out.

Curious what would have happened if we weren't' white boys. System didn't pull us in. Not everybody is that lucky. When the system gets ya in it's net it's a pain to get out. Too many people get caught in the system with rap sheets for minor shit. Harder to get hired.
The system favors certain races. Such as the color of the MAGA thugs/rioters at the Capitol who were taking selfies with the cops.

I had plenty of white friends go to jail for a small amount of weed.
 

mcattak

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I live in the suburbs in southern California where black folks do good and don't complain about their past or 'racism' because their parents raised them right and they're not a bunch of losers asking for handouts. This goes for all races not just black folks. Things are too expensive in my area to be single and on welfare so people keep their families together and work hard regardless of race or ethnicity. Most of the black population in the US lives in poorly run big cities that are ran by the historically hateful democrat party. The party of the KKK and Jim Crowe. If the black population has been voting these politicians into office for decades why should other people pay for those bad decisions? If there was no welfare state parents would have to be responsible and in turn their children would be responsible and do well, and in turn their children would also be responsible and do well, and after this continues for a handful of generations black folks across the board would have equity. We already have equality. Some people use their freedom to make poor decisions and they should expect poor results. The liers on the democrat left don't just hate blacks, they hate everyone so vote them out. Stop complaining and use that energy to put one foot in front of the other and move forward. My poor as fuck ancestors fought to free the slaves in the civil war so they could have freedom of choice not equity. In case you haven't read history, most white folks and every race for that matter have been poor historically. Reparations is just a giant welfare check instead of the usual small monthly welfare check.

When I was growing up I spent a year with my Mom, then a year with my Dad, back and forth until I was ten. My dad was on welfare and used drugs, we lived in a bad area, and we lived the same life that black folks always complain about. Police showed up all the time and took him to jail every now and then, everyone had nicer clothes than us, we spent a lot of the day away from home raising hell in the neighborhood unsupervised by our drug addicted parent, other kids were getting better grades and staying out of trouble while we weren't doing so good. We never went out to eat and the food at home was the cheapest garbage you could imagine. We cashed in food stamps by buying inexpensive items with large bills like buying a $.25 piece of candy with a $20 food stamp so Dad would get $19.75 to buy drugs. After we'd exchanged a few hundred in food stamps he would use that as capital to buy a big bag of crack to sell and make a small profit that he would eventually consume before the next months stamps and welfare check came through. My brother and I started using drugs at a young age, we'd steal from grocery stores, we got kicked out of school by 10th grade, spent time in jail, and I eventually became a drug dealer. Later I only sold cannabis because I didn't want to poison society with the other stuff.

Contrast that with my Mom. We lived in the suburbs. She worked hard, stayed off of drugs and remarried so we had two parents in the home. Look at statistics with two parent households and you can see that across the spectrum of races they all do much better than single parent households. Because of her choices she was able to balance out and repair some of the damage and straighten us out as best as she possiblity could. My Dad died when I was ten so the back and forth stopped and we stayed with my Mom full time in a stable environment. I wouldn't say it normalized us completely but it certainly helped having someone lead by example. I've never worked a real job really other than a few years of my life from about age 15-19 and I've sold cannabis for roughly 25 years, but my brother has always worked. He has a beautiful family and a wife but still they're living in an apartment and the teenage kids share a bedroom.

Despite what was going on in our household after the transition to Mom's house, with my brother and I getting into trouble more often than most, we ended up doing alright because of the community we lived in. Even though my brother and I were bad kids due to poor parenting at a young age, the overwhelming majority of the kids in the neighborhood didn't suffer from this, so we couldn't really team up with other bad kids to go completely hog wild and raise hell and totally ruin our futures.

Families are important communities are important. I understand why a lot of black folks are upset about not being successful, but focusing on families will build strong communities, and strong communities means most people are doing alright and don't have much to complain about. If the hateful democrat party gives out too much welfare and parents can slack off, the kids won't have an example of hard work and the community will eventually deteriorate. This should be pretty obvious by now as we have been able to study this for a while since it's been going on for 60 years.

The hateful left wing democrat politicians and the international communist regime loves turning people against each other as a divide and conquer tactic. Before you start hating whitey and wanting them to work even harder to pay you reparations, maybe just think about voting in people that won't manipulate you by offering free stuff for votes and then bending you over omitting the lube, and screwing your whole community. If you vote conservative then spread the word to people in your community. Conservatism is about freedom, self responsibly, and tradition. The left says, let's get rid of traditional families, let's make rules and regulations to stifle business and to hold people down, and don't worry about being responsible because there's no need when you have free healthcare and welfare. I don't have to wonder why people are so unhappy in the democrat run areas.

I definitely agree with StormShadow about there being a very specific tribe of white looking folks that run the banks and the media, etc, but they are not us and make up only 2% of the population in the US. They also run the cannabis scene in California as well as the hydroponic shops and distribution. Unfortunately most white folks have to deal with their antics just as all other races do but having an adversary doesn't mean we should cry and complain about our bad choices. It just means we should work harder and smarter and teach the people around us to do the same.

I hope you will look inward for guidance and not to the propaganda machine. The education system, the media, the politicians, etc, do not have your best interest in mind. Whatever they're selling you I would just turn it down and then you won't have to ask for a refund later.

God bless

Selling weed for 25 years. How many times did you get out of a bad situation because of your color. Guaranteed once or twice.
 

'Boogieman'

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I have as well. Not a surprise you missed my point.

I got your point but it's not really a reflection of 2021. In my experience only kids from rich families get out of trouble, and throwing all whites in that group is way off. It's elitism vs everyone else.
 

HOVAH2.0

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Most of the black kids I went to school with dropped out of school and joined a gang. This life is what you make it. I sure haven't seen the 112 trillion you are talking about.

The fact that you didnt see the 112 trillion dollars is precisely the problem..

1. Youve went into debt in order to educate yourself and you WILL go into debt to educate your children.. As the richest nation in the world I feel that all Americans should get an education as a right as an American.. a world class education worthy of the richest nation.. FREE Of CHARGE..

2. You will go into debt and become a slave to private American bank in order to buy a home for your family.

By birth right I feel all Americans should have a right to shelter without becoming a slave to other Americans.

3. What on earth did my father fight in Vietnam for? Why did my mothers father take a bullet to the head in WW2? Why did I stupidly participate in the golf war?

It wasnt to become a slave nor was it to allow other Americans the freedom of enslaving my fellow Americans.

Wake up, man Im trying to make your life better so that it isnt dependant on whether you can make some asshole a profit...
True Freedom without profit
 

HOVAH2.0

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You really gotta be on look out for the Sam Seder white guy liberal types... they always show up pretending to be dumb when race is the topic...
These axxholes are acutely aware and understand the 600 year old race problem of America thats as American as apple pie and the geechee coastline...

I see lots of them on my job in the Tech industry.... they are surrounded by white everywhere and are willfully oblivious that every person in their office is white, asian and indian..ONLY.

their job is distraction and counter discussion to prevent change... beware beware.
 

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That excuses everything then. As a country had a right to hold our workers captive. After all Timmy did it.


You are not gonna hold anyone else accountable or even mention them. I had to do it. Your leap to my saying, no wrong doing from white Americans is funny, thanks. The fact remains that all people or most were involved with slavery back then.
 

h.h.

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You are not gonna hold anyone else accountable or even mention them. I had to do it. Your leap to my saying, no wrong doing from white Americans is funny, thanks. The fact remains that all people or most were involved with slavery back then.

It’s not everyone else or all people. Not even most.
Most Americans weren’t involved in slavery nor benefitted from it. Complacent perhaps. While I can’t state your intent. Most often when I do hear this argument it’s used to negate the fact that there was a lot of enslaved folks in this country that were brought in from the African continent.
 

h.h.

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The fact that you didnt see the 112 trillion dollars is precisely the problem..

1. Youve went into debt in order to educate yourself and you WILL go into debt to educate your children.. As the richest nation in the world I feel that all Americans should get an education as a right as an American.. a world class education worthy of the richest nation.. FREE Of CHARGE..

2. You will go into debt and become a slave to private American bank in order to buy a home for your family.

By birth right I feel all Americans should have a right to shelter without becoming a slave to other Americans.

3. What on earth did my father fight in Vietnam for? Why did my mothers father take a bullet to the head in WW2? Why did I stupidly participate in the golf war?

It wasnt to become a slave nor was it to allow other Americans the freedom of enslaving my fellow Americans.

Wake up, man Im trying to make your life better so that it isnt dependant on whether you can make some asshole a profit...
True Freedom without profit

Difference is I can walk away from the bank.

When we speak of “slaves” we devalue many life’s. It’s as if their purpose in life was just that. They were born to be enslaved. I myself am guilty of using the title. Habit.
They weren’t slaves. They were humans held in captivity and forced to work through the use of violence. Nobody owned them, they only controlled them.
Much different from those owing the bank money.
 

HOVAH2.0

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this system of managing a nation on the basis of race is not only hypercritical and incompetent....

....if you arent killed in its many prisons or by the hands of its police..

..no doubt you or someone you love will be killed by its mismanagement in handling this virus( covid19)...380,000 americans and counting..p

...but it turns out that more white americans are getting vacines than any other group of americans.

...so please, you can go to the front of the line while claiming there is no racial bias.
 

h.h.

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It’s more about who you know and what neighborhood you live in. What transportation is available.
On the upside”Q” is predominantly white, so those doses should be available.
 

yesum

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It’s not everyone else or all people. Not even most.
Most Americans weren’t involved in slavery nor benefitted from it. Complacent perhaps. While I can’t state your intent. Most often when I do hear this argument it’s used to negate the fact that there was a lot of enslaved folks in this country that were brought in from the African continent.

No xxxxx, I meant most countries or groups of people were involved. Each group or country had a small subgroup that were slavers. xxxxxxxxxxx. bye
 
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h.h.

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No xxxxxxxxxx, I meant most countries or groups of people were involved. Each group or country had a small subgroup that were slavers. xxxxxxxxxxx bye

xxxxxxxxxx.
 
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White Beard

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Damn, sorry, y’all....

Editing the THIRD copy of the post changed ALL OF THEM.

Too bad, probably can’t reproduce it
 

Principante8

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Like Shrub, you don’t do nuance, so I won’t nuance for you: you seem to think you’ve justified slavery...so if slavery’s okay, what’s the problem with socialism?


FUNDAMENTAL differences between the American style of slavery and the ‘perfectly okay’ slavery you mention. Your ‘point’ is invalid: nuance it yourself, you’re smart...



Not to counter you, bro, but one of the ugly truths is that the USA at large DID benefit from the work and economic impact of domestic slavery, if only indirectly: agriculture, of course, but hard-labor occupations of all sorts were laid upon slaves, who built the Capitol, the White House, Monticello, Mount Vernon, the railroads, the canals, the bridges, roads, ships, docks, you name it. Likewise, virtually all goods and produce available for sale or purchase ‘required’ forced labor for its production...the sale and purchase and transmission of which being to the benefit of the whites who held the forced-laborers captive, and not to the benefit of those whose labor was literally beaten out of them.

All first-rate examples of the slaver notion that *African* slavery specifically “ennobled” every white man, who gained the benefit of their toil and labor without ever having to come down off their privilege and break a sweat on their own behalf. Could also be considered a way to force public complicity with the slavers.

Actually most white folks were poor as fuck back then and would have loved to toil and sweat to make America great, but the corporations and rich landowners were using slaves to cheat everyone out of an honest living. The truth is if they could have they would have made slaves out of everyone. Blacks were an obvious choice to the West because they were such a minority that it would take several generations to build enough numbers to be a threat and earn their freedom. For this same reason white slaves were popular with the royal families and corporations in Africa and the middle east. With small numbers and no unified culture or language they'd be easy to control for a time, until eventually that would change.

Another point is that all of the bridges and canals etc built by slaves benefited every person living in future america, including black folks. My great great great grandfather fought in the civil war against the south and because of the actions of brave hard working people like him the very small amount of black folks in america had a chance at freedom and making something for themselves. Obviously and logically, with no unified culture or language, it would take the black population quite a long time to catch up. Now that they have those things they're moving forward at a rapid rate and doing better all the time and I'm cheering for them the same as I cheer for my broke ass brother. Nobody could snap their fingers and magically make that happen or we would have. By 'we' , I mean basically any person on the planet earth. People love people but some of the big players at the top don't seem to feel the same unfortunately. That being said, to think this tiny population built america is complete nonsense and to state it is a historical fiction, though they obviously contributed immensely like most laborers of the day.

Take a moment to read about the history of white folks and how poor our ancestors were. Most were just as poor as black folks, worked all day to survive, and had nothing to show for it. Far too poor to own slaves. Most folks weren't doing good until after the industrial revolution when finally jobs were available to the masses.

White people fled oppression and came to america in search of freedom and the last thing they wanted to see was their black brothers and sisters enslaved by the elite, so they fought hard against the evil forces to insure the freedom of every man.

It's baffling to me that anyone who feels oppressed by the system wouldn't understand how inaccurate, manufactured, and completely flawed this new racism narrative is. The media, politicians, public school systems corporations, etc, the same ones that have historically oppressed populations are guiding this whole divide and conquer narrative and have everyone duped. They're telling people, " it's not us, it's those evil white folks." The truth is that it's always them. People should really think about where their information comes from. Commie school curriculum, politicians, and international corporations, that's where. If anyone trusts those institutions and not your ordinary brothers and sisters please re evaluate. It's supposed to be us against them, not us against us.

God bless
 
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