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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

Microbeman

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Gry said:


All that's lacking is a soundtrack of James Brown's"Living in a America."
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Interesting her lack of answers for the more gritty stuff like Clinton 'murders' etc. Lots of innuendo. I do like her solution of owning enough land to survive on. That is something I failed to convince the younger generation of my family to believe prior to selling my farm.
Same old advertising Beck.
 
armedoldhippy

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Microbeman said:
Interesting her lack of answers for the more gritty stuff like Clinton 'murders' etc. Lots of innuendo. I do like her solution of owning enough land to survive on. That is something I failed to convince the younger generation of my family to believe prior to selling my farm.
Same old advertising Beck.
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not enough land suitable for farming for all individuals to farm and survive, i don't believe. those that CAN, should. my grandparents only had to buy salt, sugar, flour, cornmeal, and butter milk when i was small. they had cows, hogs, a smokehouse, chickens, a milk cow, and a garden so big i hated to think about weeding it. also grape vines, strawberries, blueberries, and two different types of apples, and a big pond full of bluegill & largemouth bass. ate lots of squirrel and dumplings as a kid...
 
Gry

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One often hears the following term used "How stupid do they think we are "
I do not recall ever having been provided with a more succinct response than
what we have with:
 
Gry

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The Bush family bought land above the center of what is thought to be one of the larger fresh water
reserves remaining. It is in Uruguay.
 
Three Berries

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In Chicago the teachers seldom get a poor score, many are rated at 100%. Yet most students can't read or do math at anywhere near what they should be able to do. And Illinois just passed a Constitutional Amendment that will allow the Teachers Unions to negotiate social issue that affect the entire state outside the schools system. The biggest problem is declining enrollment with some schools only at 10% capacity. Not to mention the pension deficits.

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Automatically passing Chicago students to the next grade: Norman Lear’s ‘Good Times’ criticized the policy 50 years ago. It’s still happening today. – Wirepoints | Wirepoints

Illinois education officials are passing hundreds of thousands of children from one grade to the next even though those students can’t read at grade level. What’s incredible – and infuriating – is just how long this policy has gone on in Illinois. An alert Wirepoints’ reader recently pointed out...
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Gry

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The system you bitch about worked well enough to get several generations of us through it.
Are things rough, sure enough they are, but our educational system is an asset that should be
valued and improved, not abandoned and used as an investment platform. Charter schools
are just another means of segregation and stratification and in essence a scam by the powers
that be. The simple truth is that to have a decent society and anything that even bears a
resemblance to democracy, one needs an educated public.
We live in a system which has become all too proficient at selling off it's own future.
 
Three Berries

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Gry said:
The system you bitch about worked well enough to get several generations of us through it.
Are things rough, sure enough they are, but our educational system is an asset that should be
valued and improved, not abandoned and used as an investment platform. Charter schools
are just another means of segregation and stratification and in essence a scam by the powers
that be. The simple truth is that to have a decent society and anything that even bears a
resemblance to democracy, one needs an educated public.
We live in a system which has become all too proficient at selling off it's own future.
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But the system that worked well for several generations is not what is in place today. In fact the system worked best when the government didn't get involved at the Federal level. That is the system that produced generations of educated Americans, before the US Dept of Education was established as cabinet post.

How anyone can consider todays educational system in the USA a success it's beyond me. Only if you do not consider getting an education maybe. But that will come later for the deadbeats.
 
armedoldhippy

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Gry said:
We live in a system which has become all too proficient at selling off it's own future.
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short-term profit taking seriously injures possibility of long-term growth, which might float all boats. they don't WANT things to get better for everyone if it holds them back in the least. "MEMEMEMEME! right fucking NOW! i don't WANT to be a millionaire, they're a dime a dozen..."
 
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Three Berries

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Socialism cannot exist without successful capitalisms that precedes it. As it is only after wealth has built up that The Man decides how better to distribute. So the People get the wealth without working for it. They likely, and so they vote for more of The Man, who also likely. But the wealth is no longer being generated, the People are no longer self sufficient, so the Man needs to confiscate even more wealth.

And sooner or later you are a poor uneducated third world nation.
 
Gry

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We used to have millionaires who would
boast at how much they had put into our society.
Now we have billionaires who measure success based off
what they can extract from it.

They come up with amazingly inexpensive and creative means of getting their message out,
which sound much like yourself.
 
Three Berries

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If the world ran on real money, gold and silver, there would be no funny money that gets conjured up to inflate and steal from all.

The USA still has to pay for the debt Greenspan ran up. And the game is, to play the government regulations and programs to get taxpayer dollars. That's where a lot of wealth is generated now. But it's a drain on society. The classic Broken Window economic planning.
 
Gry

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What has hurt this country is we have no shortage of those who do not give a damned about the place,
and they simply want to take what looks like easy money to them.
The broken window may have happened as a result of the property being viewed as an investment no one cared much about as opposed to a home or business someone cared for and took pride in.
 
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