C'mon packer..is this just about California? I love the visits but it's not my kind of place.
It's so envormentally sound.
It's so envormentally sound.
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Why I'm Urging People to Vote FOR the AUMA in Cali
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I don't really like most things about California, but yes this is about California.
Yes indeed- unfortunately people from other States are not going to care about any of those details. its' either legal in a State or not..........
You’re right, this is about California, and this thread is about AUMA. I was merely commenting that the overall impact is much greater. I’ll never forget that Wednesday morning in November when I woke up and heard the news from Colorado (2012). I thought I was still asleep and dreaming, never thought I’d see the day in my lifetime. Granted, that law may not be the best either but the sky has not fallen.
There is ZERO reason to vote for AUMA; unless an individual has been brainwashed; or uninformed from the start.
Cannabis will be LESS legal under AUMA; than it is RIGHT NOW.
LIES, recreational Cannabis is 100% illegal.
Folks; that is not legal... in any way; shape; or form!
Besides; Why support a lying piece of shit 1%er capitalist sociopath bitch like Sean Parker.
You all know he is not even a Californian?
He doesn't give 2 fucks about Cannabis ; or your rights. LOL!
Why would I support a criminal piece of shit that supports a terrorist like Hillary Clinton; and has personally donated MULTI MILLIONS to the corrupt Clinton Foundation? Seriously? Are people for real?
The Clinton family? Legendary drug war supporters?
And yet you want me to vote for a "legalization" bill; created by a clearly corrupt 1%er; who supports the biggest criminal swine in our nation.
( Who spent much of her career incarcerating innocents for drugs; including Cannabis)
No. I would sooner stick my dick in a blender
Fuck AUMA.
i got banned and told never to post that on rollitup haha. mods are nasty corrupt shills.
Maybe the same will happen here?
-SamS
"Yea, this place is full of sellers. They would be happy if no legal pot ever. Why change a good
thing? "
Hilarious. You honestly believe we are against legal pot? Those who grow; smoke; love & respect Cannabis? Those who have opposed the government for both many years; and few? You trust the blatantly corrupt lying government; over your fellow stoner peers? You accuse us of being consumed by greed; as you back a bill created by a multi billionaire 1%er?
I think you need to re evaluate this whole ordeal
I never though Cannabis advocates would be so insulted & degraded; by their very peers they seek to protect! How trippy!
Bravo NWO; you guys are top notch propaganda chiefs!
Takes one to know one.
-SamS
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Scott reportedly also snitched off Todd McCormick and Peter McWillams, great example you use.
http://www.productionclips.com/peterrip.htm
Peter who was a member of the IHA, said the following:
"As my federal arrest for medical marijuana conspiracy charges -- and my subsequent current life-threatening situation (inability to keep down my nausea-producing anti-AIDS medications without medical marijuana) ---- is based entirely on information and Grand Jury testimony provided by "snitches" (primarily Scott Imler and two of his employees at the Los Angeles Cannabis Buyer's Club), I will be watching this program Tuesday night with great interest.
Reverend Imler claims he HAD to snitch on me because the federal prosecutors offered him immunity. In fact, discovery documents show that Mr. Imler talked freely (very freely) about me ---- a patient-member of his club ---to DEA and federal prosecutors long before any immunity deal was reached.
If you wonder why Rev. Imler is allowed to operate by far the largest
Cannabis Club in the state of California --- completely untouched by either criminal or civil federal action --- it is solely because of his
"cooperation" in getting me arrested, including his Grand Jury Testimony.
The irony is that Rev. Imler now manufacturers and sells more marijuana each year under federal protection than the entire alleged "kingpin" enterprise of mine and my co-defendants (including Todd McCormick) are accused of in the federal indictment against us.
Take care,
Peter McWilliams
RIP
-SamS
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SilverHazer
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http://www.canorml.org/news/A_SUMMARY_OF_THE_MEDICAL_MARIJUANA_REGULATION_AND_SAFETY_ACT
Don't forget about the new laws which will start affecting 215 BIG TIME (2017). Mandatory testing, licensing for producers, crackdowns on doctors who over-prescribe.
If recreational continues to not pass, they will continue to step all over 215 until they get their way.
Shoot if its gonna be highly regulated and taxed I might as well buy it in a coffee shop where I can hang out and smoke.
Don't forget about the new laws which will start affecting 215 BIG TIME (2017). Mandatory testing, licensing for producers, crackdowns on doctors who over-prescribe.
If recreational continues to not pass, they will continue to step all over 215 until they get their way.
Shoot if its gonna be highly regulated and taxed I might as well buy it in a coffee shop where I can hang out and smoke.
weedaholic721
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@Silverhazer that's the issue I have not seen addressed. Everyone says AUMA is worse then the illusion of legality brought by 215's affirmative defense. With the new regulations on the medical side, will it really be that great with out AUMA. If doctors start losing licenses like here in Colorado, youll see alot less doctors recommending and alot less patients to hold up this medical marijuana fallacy.
SilverHazer
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People who wanna believe the 215 pseudo-legal party will last forever are ignorant IMO. Or they live way up north in Cali where stuff hasn't changed much in years. Ask anyone from central cali to Sonoma county though, and they'll tell you that politicians from local to Sac-town piss on prop 215 like it aint $h%÷ whenever they feel like the 'medical' comunity owes them a kickback. I say 'medical' because everyone knows REAL medical patients are about 1 in 1,000 in Cali.
They're gonna start cracking down on doctors who over-perscribe though, to boost revenues and siezures by pushing more people back down to the black market. So, no more renewals for $40.00. No more recomendations at festivals ect..
The party's over and everyone with half a brain knows it. Medical clubs suck anyways.
They're gonna start cracking down on doctors who over-perscribe though, to boost revenues and siezures by pushing more people back down to the black market. So, no more renewals for $40.00. No more recomendations at festivals ect..
The party's over and everyone with half a brain knows it. Medical clubs suck anyways.
no shit. i know which one i would rather have move in next door...
Yeah no doubt the outlaw biker's won't like the 1%er label.
May I grow cannabis as a house plant?
Well that is according to you. I see it different, I and many recreational users fought for and supported medical Cannabis and when 215 passed we expected to see the medical growers and users support recreational Cannabis legalization, but 20 years later and no recreation Cannabis growing or use is legal, zero.
When 215 was being campaigned for Jack Herer refused to support the bill, after it passed he agreed he was wrong and he should of supported it.
Prop 64 is far from perfect, but it is better then how it is for recreational Cannabis in Calif today. Do we really want recreational Cannabis to be illegal for another 80 years like it has been? The time has come for a change, not wasting time saying what we really need is a perfect bill, that will may or maybe will never come? Funny how packerfan79 refuses to see that Calif legalization would have a huge positive effect in the rest of the USA and world, and while all the time growers under 215 are shipping Cannabis out of Calif by the ton, to these same other states. I maybe see why they do not want to change Calif or the USA laws, it might hurt their bottom line $.
I want Cannabis legal for all uses, by all adults, everywhere.
I do not care who makes the profits from safe legal Cannabis, I just want to grow my 6 plants for personal use.
VOTE YES on AUMA Prop 64
-SamS
Not in Calif today if it is for recreational use, under AUMA you can have 6 plants.
-SamS
weedaholic721
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Can someone please explain how the new Medical Marijuana regulations are much different then AUMA. Cities can ban personal medical grows. To me it seems that'll everything people say is wrong with AUMA will already be implemented under the these new regulations already passed into law.
@Packerfan @ Arthritissucks, many states do not have voter initiatives that allow us to vote on legalization. Fighting for AUMA is us fighting for legalization in our states. The domino
effect is alive and well in our country. Many compare marijuana legalization to LGBTQ rights. Following that model, the more states that allow it, the more likely to effect the whole country.
In my home state Virginia, a legalization bill was tabled due to the head of the Fraternal Order of Police stating that they use marijuana to stop other crimes so it should stay illegal to make their jobs easy and allow them to racially discriminate.
@Packerfan @ Arthritissucks, many states do not have voter initiatives that allow us to vote on legalization. Fighting for AUMA is us fighting for legalization in our states. The domino
effect is alive and well in our country. Many compare marijuana legalization to LGBTQ rights. Following that model, the more states that allow it, the more likely to effect the whole country.
In my home state Virginia, a legalization bill was tabled due to the head of the Fraternal Order of Police stating that they use marijuana to stop other crimes so it should stay illegal to make their jobs easy and allow them to racially discriminate.
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