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View Poll Results: What are you doing to help?
I am already a NORML member 34 25.00%
I am a member of a different leglization organization 28 20.59%
I will join the fight as soon as possible 52 38.24%
I like weed illegal it's how I make my living 22 16.18%
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:02 AM #21
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I am a voter but have not joined normal.
I plan to very soon.

Thank you very much for your initiative on this Pactivist.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:06 PM #22
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I'm sorry but this poll lacks options. Lots of options. Where is the option for I got busted for weed. I fought my case for weed. I have contacted numerous politicians including the last 3 presidents. I've submitted an ordinance to me city on how to appropriately implement prop 215, I've raised awareness and encouraged people to boycott faux legalization attempts.

Why should someone join NORML to do something?

I find it ironic that when NORML held their annual convention in San Francisco last year that the recipient of their lifetime achievement award in 08 didn't attend the convention when it was hosted in his hometown. Instead he spend time with me discussing how NORML actually blew legalization back when Carter was president. All because they had to share a line of coke with the drug czar and post pictures to the media when the drug czar was in favor of legalization. The person that told me this story was at that very party. So when it comes to NORML I will not support their main organization. Now affiliated chapters are a different story.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:31 PM #23
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What is absurd about this statement is that even if it was legal you could still make money.
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:25 AM #24
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What is absurd about this statement is that even if it was legal you could still make money.
But not as much, which proves the guys who vote this option are just plain greedy.
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I came across this site today, I'm not sure,but this seems like the right thread for this info. This online library covers legal history of Marijuana. Medical research, and a slue of other information. if this is the wrong site please advise.
www.druglibrary.org/shaffer/

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Old 08-13-2010, 05:44 AM #27
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"I have spent $xxxx on magazines, glass, papers, and other paraphernalia related to the mmj industry."

"I am personally responsible for the addition and recirculation of $xxxxx amount of dollars to the industry, while giving xxx amount of people easy access to this"

"...xxx lbs over the course of xx years in a zero tolerance zone"

"I have marched in rallys on the state capitol"

"I have spent xxxxx amount of hours as a pow in this drug war"

its impossible to cover all the options...
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TO: Pactivist
One thing to consider is that cannabis is illegal. (I know, pretty obvious.) The point is that if you become an activist in favor of re-legalizing cannabis, you pretty much have to have "balls of steel" if you're a toker. The spotlight is on you as an activist, and there is a good chance that LEO will make an example of you -- case in point being Marc Emery. OTOH, if you don't toke, you can "make waves" with your Congressional representatives without any direct fear of official reprisal. But other bad things can mysteriously just "happen" to you once your name is out there as an activist -- lose a security clearance, get passed over for promotion, be on the top of your company's RIF list, IRS audit, etcetera. It would appear that the entire weight of the government is aligned against repeal of Prohibition 2.0, and anyone who becomes active in the cause. That, my friend, is the nature and reality of a fascistic police state, which the USA resembles more and more every day.

Please note that I am not trying to make the case against becoming a cannabis activist, only that prison and a permanent shadow of depravation could hang over one for being caught with a mere roach. And the LEOs have been known to plant evidence, besides. That does provide a serious disincentive to become personally involved in the cause, so I do understand the reluctance of many.

Just my $00.02 worth
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:15 PM #29
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ur fucking scared david, its a state of mind.

put ur gladitoral dress on and come to the war, i have a responsibility to mine and ur children and this earth. come and fight, give ur life purpose instead of consuming.

we were not meant to live like this, segregated, dumbeddown and mal-nourished, we come from family tribes who stuck together. What is happening goes against thousnads of years of evolution

i feel like setting to myself on fire in the street.

ppl it dont just begin and end with MJ, there is SO MUCH rotten in this world.

Why is MJ illegal, anybody know or just too busy showing off ur pretty flowers u paid for.

can anybody grasp the concept? we are more then them

yet we stand by while they bust in smash our things, rifle thru our life, walk all over our worldly possesions, send u to court, sully our names, bust up our children, wreck ur families jail us and take our lives, an wot for? wot? huh?

something is wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG

get ur consumer head out of the tv, rich ppl control the tv, get in touch with wot is happening
TV is only a vehicle to extract money, believe that.
TV just says blah ah blah blah

even if u prove ur case, wholly and scientifcally a judge still cant think for themselve, they will punish. wtf?
heloo cuckoo cuckoo, any see something wrong with the above statement, im highschool educated and i can.

why dont we care for one another anymore? they dont care or they wouldnt give us ciggarettes or or those funy long names in our food stuffs and our hygiene products. cancer causing things, google it,. but bcos is listed down, it indemnefies,

LISTEN! they RELY on ur igorance, u think just cos 'its the way it is' that its good for u.
u think that jus cos its in suprmarket shelf its ok?

wake up.
look after ur family bcos noone else is
please ppl, learn to question, find out for urself, dont just accept things for wot they are, find out for urself.


we are meant to farm locally, the earth cannot sustain a big few trying to supply all.
so many are too fat lazy and dumb now to know how to survive, how to grow ur own food, this is how things were done only 1,2 and 3 generations ago. hows it going to be wen were gone?

the future is being re-written. and wen were gone and theres no one left to carry the torch for MJ, only ignorant consumer pigs who do wot their told. wot then?
and we just stand idly by and let them. eew aww eee aww

such countries who have let big business run rampant are now rotting at the core, accepting consumerism with open arms, degrading health and loss of morals and traditional values which got us this far, wot now?
why are we taught to hate certain faiths? bcos they refuse to be a cog in the consumerisim machine, they prefer to still live simply and care for one another? seems like an awful loss of market share.
Power shifts are occouring right now, take note and assist in steering ur country in the right direction, to stay in a stable and safe position.
because plainly the ppl who are steering the ships atm DO NOT have our best interests in mind

the reality?
put some more plastic in ur tits while ur true brother of the earth rots and languishes in jail. Why dont u care for ur brother?
He is there for nothing, hello?? cuckoo cuckoo

we all come from the earth and we'll ALL go back to it, thats the ONLY thing u can count on, its wot we do while were here that matters.

wots the worst they can do? torture? KILL? beats dying of cancer any day. i urge ppl to become active and equip urself with knowledge. they cant beat us if we stick together, theres simply not enough room in all the jails, how could they contain us even.

our elders (elderly) were once wise and respected, now there just nuisances in the way who should hurry up and die. another market segment, create a problem and sell a solution.
get back to basics, money is just a carrot, mortgage stress and the like are just PERCIEVED stresses, they arent really real!! it just keeps u working, keeps u spending, gouging for oil,.
take 5 minutes and contemplate.
Dont feel its too hard and u cant do it, you have many bros and sis's only a pm away.
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What would happen if those 18 to 20 million Cannabis smokers all grew Cannabis?
Well, there would be plenty of weed for everyone, prices would drop dramatically, the number of new exciting strains, crosses and elite plants would multiply, organized crime would take a serious hit, the law enforcement would be completely overrun, the penal system would brake down, and whatever administration in place would be FORCED to reconcider their position on Cannabis, not because of the media, public opinion or scientific facts (which they do not care about anyway), but to maintain the impression that they control the situation.

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