[Night crawler]

Ive ben doing this along time uk . The people in the uk who grow large are just the same and only care about the 50 , 000 pounds tax free they will make every 8 weeks ,the weed ends up in childrens hands here . The same people were involved in the herion business but because of shit in Europe at the borders Hungary , Austria they have moved into the weed business 12.50 a gram. I hope they get a virus abd it wipes out their shit weed . My growing has took me round the world many times never been apprehended and i never break the law . I see in the states the amount of teenyboppers smoking on you tube an facebook most look about 12 . They must be getting older kids to buy it from the legal places . We dont want this .

[Weird]

it might be hard to tell from my words at times but as much as I hate ignorance I don't hate the ignorant



I have dealt with many walks of life and weed seems to bring people to a better place regardless of intention and has the potential to transform all sorts of poisonous mind sets to healthy open minds



you can't correct a detrimental mindset with out revealing it first, sadly most people rather argue about the character of those arguing against rather than the pragmatic values of belief and opinion versus the detrimental for better outcome

[bigtacofarmer]

They have always hated the culture.......... they were just too scared to do something illegal.


I keep saying. If they are against the culture that kept growing this great plant. Let them only grow strains thay have no illegal ancestors in the lineage. Let us have the ones we maintained and improved during the prohibition they supported.

[Easy7]

It's nothing new. Cannabis has been hated by patriotic church types for ages. Perhaps folks are marketing a culture friendly cannabis?

It's still a culture and class war here in my area. Church folks do not go for cannabis. Then there are class conflicts. It's usually seen as a poor person issue but I've known a wealthier person or two to toke.

Just another way to dispense the middle and lower classes, in my opinion. Rich folks can afford lawyers and aren't suspected of crimes.

[Easy7]

Kinda a dick headed move to qpute me and take it out of context.

Being a felon myself and first stumbled on over grow 20 years ago I am just saying it like it is. But if you want to be delusional and not know the America you are up against...it's your choice to be foolish. But come across me as an asshole and you'll get nowhere.

There are hardliner church types that are republicans as there parents were republicans and there are not going to flat out allow 100% total legalization of any drug. California and the west coast is very very different compared to the bible banging states.

You should see how many churches there are around here.

[Easy7]

The very premise of this thread is retarded. Talk about unrealistic expectations of 'legalization'. Legalization is regulation. They aren't going to just let you grow a semi trailer load and blast it with butane in your back yard and sell it out of your front door.

A culture of people that hate old school cannabis culture? It's not like that at all but I can see how a retarded person would think that. Maybe you just don't understand reality and are delusion?

[Easy7]

All I'm saying is they aren't going to legalize crime. With legalization comes regulations and they aren't going to legalize unregulated cannabis. They don't make money off a black market.

There are regulations for our food and thousands of laws regarding an apple orchard. Tobacco is regulated and mostly at sale and very little in quality control. The add all sorts of crap to cigs.

What I'm saying is they aren't going to just give cannabis culture a green light. It's going to be the rich and connected against everyone else, like everything else. Sorry, wish it was the other way around but that's not reality.

Reality sucks!

If I had my way they would just monitor some sort of safety quality issues and let us do what we want. Grow as much as we want, and sell as much as we want. But Uncle Sam doesn't go that way, anyone that knows anything knows that.

[theJointedOne]

Well when babylon tells me its a crime to plant up the weed i know its time to disobey. I never ever saw this plant, this awesome plant, smoking growing, moving literal truck fulls on a dirt road...never saw any of that shit as a crime, maybe you did? this culture and this movement and this energy, it is still ours, they can try to get the tax dollar but they never get the real blessings this plant brings.

[Easy7]

Well news to you it is a crime. It's stupid to ignore that there are legal consequences.

Maybe you just wave a nickel in the pen worth of cannabis in-front of a cop. I wouldn't.

operational security is a good way to get busted if you just let it be a lose funny thing.

What I think is I'm getting all sorts of flak for telling you the way it is. It's a crime, people serve time. They're not going to just say, "ok, do what you want now". That went on in california's so called medical where anyone could grow and get a permit. Those days are over and undermined any integrity in the valid statements of medical benefits. It was an excuse largely for people to make a lot of money.

Personally I'd be happy with legalization:

I don't require cannabis for income at this time and so far haven't
I would be able to order seeds without a interstate trafficking or smuggling charge
I could grow a personal amount of cannabis without fear of jail/court/fines/loss of property
I could smoke without a total fear of who's knocking on the door (maybe)
Perhaps jobs won't be as restrictive about drug testing cannabis
Courts may recognize the medical uses of cannabis for disabled inmates and probation
Not having to worry about the power bill for a simple 600 watt
Being able to give cannabis and hash away without worrying about an infraction of the law

I'm sure the list goes on. Lot's of you all seem smart and could of done other things with your life. But it goes on and on why you all cry about easy money days getting harder.

[shaggyballs]

Originally Posted by Easy7

Well news to you it is a crime. It's stupid to ignore that there are legal consequences.
See below
So why would cannabis be simply legal, flat out across the board?
See below

Kinda a dick headed move to qpute me and take it out of context.
Maybe a dickhead move on my part, but how were you quoted out of context?

Well you see that is the thing.
It is a crime.
Is it wrong that it is a crime?
Yes it is, what tells me so?
Well we were lied to and told weed is evil and has no medical use.
We now can confirm we were lied to and unlawfully jailed.
We now have evidence that cannabis is a miracle worker in the medical field.
So there is no doubt that we were lied to and unlawfully jailed.
They once told us cannabis is a gateway to heroin and meth and that Cannabis is more dangerous
That is simply not true.
More lies and more lies.

Ok now they come right out and say we lied and the stuff may infact be good for you if consumed in the correct manner.
It may even kill cancer cells...wow what a lie that was..huh?

Now don't you think after telling all those lies it would be a good idea to drop any and all restriction on this healing erb?

So what I am saying in a nutshell is:
Growing Cannabis should never have been a crime.
Growing Cannabis should not be a crime now.

BTW
You chose the words hippy mafia or rainbow family
Not everyone is going to drop acid and drop out of the social brainwashing.

And all those people you have insulted would not have been refered to as criminals.

They would have been more appropriately been refered to as healers.