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Old 04-08-2009, 08:25 PM #41
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Mrs. Swamp (and everyone else who's said the same thing): The fact that your children turned out ok proves absolutely nothing. It's not like Thalidome made all babies into mutants either...

And I don't care what anyone does to their kids but please don't go around telling everyone that it's totally ok to smoke when you're pregnant without letting them know about the possible risks involved.

Also, the next time your kid doesn't seem quite as bright as the kid next door or whatever, don't forget to wonder whether or not it's because you had to alleviate your morning sickness with marijuana.
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Mrs. Swamp (and everyone else who's said the same thing): The fact that your children turned out ok proves absolutely nothing. It's not like Thalidome made all babies into mutants either...

And I don't care what anyone does to their kids but please don't go around telling everyone that it's totally ok to smoke when you're pregnant without letting them know about the possible risks involved.

Also, the next time your kid doesn't seem quite as bright as the kid next door or whatever, don't forget to wonder whether or not it's because you had to alleviate your morning sickness with marijuana.

Nobody has said its okay, all I see ppl saying is its an individual choice and what their experiences are...there are risks in everything you do these days...from walking across the street to taking an aspirin or eating too much dairy...
What if your kid is brighter then the kid next door?..blame that on mj too?
So unfair to judge ppl.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:30 PM #43
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Yeah sorry I was a bit harsh. Did not mean to judge anyone. Like I say I don't really care what anyone does to their children.

But thoughts like that might be something you have to live with if you do choose to smoke while pregnant...
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That study just looks like more propaganda to me . Same thing we have been putting up with for years. More fear mongers. I say the proof is in the pudding. Read the post here ... see what really happens when moms use MJ
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:43 PM #45
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Does cannabis/THC do harm to the fetus if it is used during pregnancy?

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Among the studies that have investigated the relationship between prenatal marijuana exposure and birth outcome, the results have been inconsistent. Except for adolescent mothers, there is little evidence that gestation is shorter in mothers who smoke marijuana. Several studies of women who smoked marijuana regularly during pregnancy show that they tend to give birth to lower weight babies. (...)
For most of these studies, much of the harms associated with marijuana use are consistent with those associated with tobacco use, and smoking is a significant factor so the contribution of cannabinoids cannot be confirmed. However, Jamaican women who use marijuana rarely smoke it, but instead prepare it as tea. In a study of neonates born to Jamaican women who either did or did not ingest marijuana during pregnancy, there was no difference in neurobehavioral assessments made at 3 days after birth and at one month. (...)
Since 1978, the Ottawa Prenatal Prospective Study has been measuring the cognitive functions of children born to mothers who smoked marijuana during pregnancy. (...) The children in the different marijuana exposure groups showed no lasting differences in global measures of intelligence such as language development, reading scores, and visual or perceptual tests. Moderate cognitive deficits were detectable among these children when they were four days old and again at four years, but these deficits were no longer apparent at five years. Prenatal marijuana exposure was not, however, without lasting impact. By comparison, at both ages 5-6 and 9-12, children in the same study who were prenatally exposed to tobacco smoke scored significantly lower on tests of language skills and cognitive functioning.
Joy JE, Watson SJ, Benson JA, eds. Marijuana and medicine: Assessing the science base. Institute of Medicine. Washington DC: National Academy Press, 1999.


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The consequences of prenatal exposure to cannabis are subtle. The impact during the course of pregnancy and upon the neonate appear to be considerably moderated by other risk factors with evidence from a number of cohorts suggesting mild effects upon fetal growth and central nervous system functioning. During the toddler stage, there is little evidence for a prenatal cannabis effect either upon growth or behavior. However, beyond the age of three, there are suggestive findings indicating a putative association between prenatal marihuana exposure and aspects of cognitive behavior that fall under the rubric of executive function. Particularly, the facets of this construct which appear impacted are the domains of attention/impulsivity and problem solving situations requiring integration and manipulation of basic visuoperceptual skills. Although there is a convergence of evidence, the very limited number of studies which have followed children beyond the age of three emphasizes the need for further, well controlled investigations in this area.
Fried P. Pregnancy. In: Grotenhermen F, Russo E, eds. Cannabis and cannabinoids. Pharmacology, toxicology, and therapeutic potential. Haworth Press, Bing-hamton/New York 2001, in press.


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It is unlikely that cannabis causes embryonic or fetal malformations. There are inconsistent epidemiological data on its effect on birth weight. There is evidence of subtle disturbances of cerebral development resulting in cognitive impairment in offspring of cannabis users. Some scientists assume such disturbances exist, while others believe that cannabis exerts no relevant negative effects. Possibly subtle cognitive marijuana-related disorders might not be observed before preschool or school age.(...)
No influences on physical fetal development in children born to chronic cannabis users have been reported. Yet, as far as possible, cannabis should be avoided during pregnancy and in lactating women because of the controversial evidence for subtle disturbances of cognitive development.
Grotenhermen F. Review of unwanted actions of Cannabis and THC. In: Grotenhermen F, Russo E, eds. Cannabis and cannabinoids. Pharmacology, toxicology, and therapeutic potential. Haworth Press, Bing-hamton/New York 2001, in press.
Grotenhermen F. Practical hints. In: Grotenhermen F, Russo E, eds. Cannabis and cannabinoids. Pharmacology, toxicology, and therapeutic potential. Haworth Press, Bing-hamton/New York 2001, in press.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:05 PM #46
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it is ok to smoke weed wen yer preg love wat r u tlkn bout tht is a false study....i read another study like 2 years ago that said that there were absolutely no dif in babies and in some cases babys had been mor devoloped yer reading into propagandaget yer shit straight b4 u talk crap specially on icmag ,,,, u dnt kno wat yer tlkn bout haha n yea mybe it could be bad if you smoke like 5 blunts a day but so would eating 20 oranges a day everything has its probs in large quantities but no 1s that stupid.......
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Like I said, I smoked with both of my children, and they are both happy, intelligent, healthy children....but to each their own. The cannabis helped me with the terrible morning sickness that I had, but with my second child, I quit 45 days before delivery because in my state, since my first child, they passed a law and they test the baby for THC (among other drugs), and if you fail, then you have the Department of Children and Families all up in your business.
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Yeah sorry I was a bit harsh. Did not mean to judge anyone. Like I say I don't really care what anyone does to their children.

But thoughts like that might be something you have to live with if you do choose to smoke while pregnant...
My wife and I will GLADLY take that risk as opposed to the alternatives...Compazine HAS BEEN PROVEN to cause birth defects, yet it is still being pushed on many a preggo, as well as opiates for pain. My wife got prescribed percocet 5mg 5 times a day for her teeth hurting from calcium loss... NO THANKS! We got some Calcium chewies from the organic market here, and an occasional vrip calms her much better. The ONLY PROVEN damage that has been caused is from SMOKING. Cannabis, cigarettes, shit, even sage or cloves. Combustible products and fuel are harmful to babies to be. Cannabinoids are produced in human mothers milk without any help to aid in appetite and sleep...coincidence?
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That study just looks like more propaganda to me . Same thing we have been putting up with for years. More fear mongers. I say the proof is in the pudding. Read the post here ... see what really happens when moms use MJ

Either way ya cut it, no one is gonna convince me that mj is harmful,... calm me blind, Ill call you a sheep
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:22 AM #48
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When did this turn into a debate?ANYONE who thinks ANYKIND of smoke is OK to force on a developing fetus is a fucking moron!!!
I said it and I dont care who takes offense.....IT IS NOT OK NOR ADVISABLE TO SMOKE ANYTHING WHILE PREGNANT......Christ,ya mean I actually have to fucking say this!!!!!I dont need a study,I dont need research,(altho low birth rates in smokers,etc etc)There have been enuf VALID good studies to were this shouldnt even be a topic,get fucking real people.
ITS A DEVELOPING FETUS(IT EATS AND SMOKES WHAT YOU DO)
best advice...........DONT SMOKE PREGNANT!!!!!
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That being said,again......I know plenty of people who do and did........Lets not sit here acting like its all ok just because we got lucky!!!!

Yeah,LOL......call the studies propoganda!!!!Marijuana smoke is good for fetus's!!!!Too Much
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:28 AM #49
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QUIETLY walk away. Using drugs when you are pregnant is an easy - dare I say "common sense" - call, but one of the other posters pointed out that shooting the messenger is an easy way out of a tough choice.

You could be a dealer as far as they are concerned, but you don't have to be the enabler who they will blame when the child is born with autism or some other birth defect. Don't kid yourself for a second, if the child doesn't turn out to be perfect, there will be a permanent and bitter edge of resentment because they will not take responsibility for their own conduct.

By walking away quietly, you are not creating a fuss about it and you are not necessarily making a judgment. You need to handle this very delicately...

Definitely a two-cent rant. My apologies for posting in the Women's Forum without first obtaining written permission (stamped by the site mods - all of the female ones!) and completed in triplicate. I'll do that next time.
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:34 AM #50
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Anyone who needs to ask the question is it alright to smoke pot while pregnant is not ready to have a family. Sounds very selfish. The first nine months will set the child up for the rest of its life. Don't take that chance because if any thing goes wrong you'll always wonder if it was because of the pot.
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