epsom salts

habeeb said:

make your own soil ? hydro?


if you do soil do you lime up good or?

epsoms will fix your problem, though. should check into why your getting mag def's though..

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Dislexus said:

I used to use epsom salts but I find blackstrap molasses to be a superior source of Mag for soil or coco. All my plants are very green and the leaves have a healthy waxy shine.. Sometimes I stick my face into the canopy and they tickle me teeeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeeeeeee

Trust me switch to blackstrap molasses they'll have plenty of mag and would love to get phatter off the carbs.

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IGROWMYOWN said:

Pretty much I never looked back from blackstrap mollases I have a 30lb sack Of salt works Epsom salt that's been collecting dust for 6 years. I guess I could use it for baths.

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Mr.Mist said:

When using molasses you're raising levels of iron, calcium, potassium and sodium along with magnesium..
When using epsom salts you're only raising your sulphur content along with magnesium..

I guess what works best depends on the mineral content of your nute solution..

I like to see epsom salts as a superior magnesium supplement, compared to molasses, because it can be used in hydro and foliar sprays..

I also like to stay away from molasses because I use aphrodite's extraction as a carbohydrate supplement, wich I prefer because it is plant available, it is easier for microbes to utilize and it can't kill bennies(as opposed to molasses)..

Not that molasses is a bad source.. It's great for soil, just not the best IMO...

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IGROWMYOWN said:

I don't know about all that other than the nutrition and sugars of molasses but what I do know with a simple mix of Mex/jam bat for veg and flower + molasses i'm able to produce top shelf for a little bit of nothing at all. I haven't seen a deficiency in well 6 years since the switch. People on here say Guano isn't the best as well I just shrug and keep growin. With the Super strong elevated so cal sun I have they'll beast without the best

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pappy masonjar said:

Do you use the guano as a top dress?

Ive been expermenting with top dress only with guanos and such..

any chance you could elborate on your grow methods a bit?

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stoned-trout said:

I have always used some so its hard to know really.. but I have heard that many times from quite a few diff folks... I don't wanna deprive mine of sulfur and find out....yeehaw

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lilman said:

I love Chronic from serious seeds but I always run into the mag deficiency that comes with growing it. Normally i fix it with calmag but I was wondering if anybody has ever used epsom salts to fix it instead of using a store bought product.

Thanx for your time, te lilman

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EclipseFour20 said:

In the cigar world, the color of ash has everything to do with minerals in the soil and very little about quality.

From the "cigar adviser" http://www.cigaradvisor.com/articles/cigars-101/smoking/who-cares-about-your-ash

When I was back in the customer service department, I would receive an occasional customer call insisting their cigars were bad. In fact, they were always the worst cigars the customer ever tasted. No, even worse; they were so bad, they would make people violently ill to the point where hospitalization would be the only means of full recovery, and even still, that person would have to undergo decades of psychiatric therapy to free his mind of all the horrors the cigars had on his life. Of course I never believed these flamboyant claims; and trust me, I actually received calls just like this. But like a good employee, I pried into why they were the worst cigars in the world since that was my job. Nine times out of ten, the answer would be because the ash color was black instead of white.

Again, I seriously had people call and give me stories like these. The flashback to the dark days in the call center actually came to mind when I was speaking to a cigar blogger over the weekend named Peter. The issue came up since I was smoking a Cusano 18 and the ash was relatively dark, and I pointed it out to him. His reaction was as normal as the sun is bright; he slapped me on the back of the head and told me to stop whining. He was right though, I shouldn’t be complaining about a dark ash. There is no reason to considering ash color as an indication of the taste of a cigar. Ash color is perhaps the most insignificant thing you can analyze when smoking a cigar.

Let me explain: Ash color only has to do with the levels of magnesium contained in the tobacco leaves. The lighter the cigar ash, the more magnesium there is and the opposite is true of darker cigar ash. However, the level difference is so minimal in the cigar, it is nowhere near noticeable on your palate. Instead of looking at color, look at the overall ash quality. This tells the story of your whole cigar as you puff through it. Say your cigar ash is flaky. This usually means that you are smoking a short filler and it can become a nuisance since the ash will most likely break off constantly. If this is the case, don’t smoke and drive without a Road Warrior Ash Can. Also, if the cigar splits in the middle, this usually means the middle is not keeping pace with the perimeter of the cigar. When the wrapper is burning faster than the filler and binder, this is a caustic burn issue and can alter the flavor of the smoke, so you will not taste the blend the manufacturer intended. To fix this, just stop puffing for a few minutes so the inside can catch up.

If you really want to analyze the ash on your cigar to ensure a quality cigar, do not look at the ash color. It is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Instead, pay close attention to how the ash splits and breaks off as you smoke in order to better analyze the quality of your burn. After all, the quality of the burn is what really defines the flavor of the cigar.


Cigar ash colors and associated minerals:
magnesium = white ash (the whiter it is--the more magnesium)
calcium = lighter color ash (chief element in cigar ash)
potassium = darker color for domestic, but white for cuban cigars
equal amounts of minerals = grey streaked with white veins

Hmmmm, I think overdose in ferts, particularly potassium is the primary culprit for dark ash in our world, after all--potassium phosphate is 0-50-30 (found in: Beasty Bloom, Cha-Ching, Moab, etc).

My $0.02, cheers!

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