Rosin Cost vs Bud Value

TychoMonolyth · Dec 29, 2017

I don't see the advantages of creating and selling rosin vs selling good bud. Apart from the dabbing trend, what's the benefit? Is it only useful to recover from trim? Wouldn't you lose money making rosin from your prime bud?

What am I missing here?

MJPassion · Dec 29, 2017

Depends on the market your working in.

But overall, I agree, Why waste good flowers?

TychoMonolyth · Dec 29, 2017

$1000/lb for bud is pretty cheap. From what I can tell, you're losing $100/lb.

Easy7 · Dec 29, 2017

Most of the time, at least in my area, good flowers lose value making concentrates. But concentrates hold value longer than flowers. There just is not a lot of market currently, for fancy products. Concentrates are a luxary and not budget user 'quality'.

Bush Dr · Dec 29, 2017

Try selling flowers in Cali atm, $600 a P if you can find a customer

MrBungle · Dec 29, 2017

I'd only press rosin with what I can afford to use myself... In my market.. everyone smokes flowers but wants rosin.... so they buy flower and I make them rosin with it... using the pucks for edibles afterwards is where you bank from

WaterFarmFan · Dec 29, 2017

If you make extracts, it is all about adding value, including convenience, while getting max yield from your material with reasonable setup costs. Some processes do this better than others. I get at least 25% yield using -50C ethanol and very high quality flowers. So, that is at least 7 grams of shatter per ounce of flowers. Add terpenes and load into carts or use for edibles that you make yourself for even higher return. I am not sure about rosin, as reports of lower yields and limited long-term shelf life steered me into a different direction.

Mate Dave · Dec 29, 2017

Bush Dr said:
Try selling flowers in Cali atm, $600 a P if you can find a customer

0.5 of a BTC. Ship it out of the USA

Limeygreen · Dec 29, 2017

Depends on the prices you get and how much yield you get. If you get 20 percent yield on an elbow, you get about 90 grammes of rosin and at 50 bucks a gramme that gives you 4500 for those 90 grammes right? I have seen good rosin selling for 90-100 a gramme, so half the yield at low price is 2250 a lbs high price and higher yield is 9000 if you did the retail. If those are the prices, it sounds like a good return to me.

Easy7 · Dec 29, 2017

Thing is not everyone has a store. To get a high price and move bulk is rough. Same with flowers. Sure, there might be someone willing to pay high and for bulk. But it's rare and nearly always a discount wholesale type of thing. People are afraid here of burning thru cash. They want a buzz to last so they go for budget weed (brick). If I had a choice I'd spend my $30 on some decent bubble than brick. But people here don't usually know much about the trade. They are purely consumers and will pay $50 for seedless brick. Trailer park market.

Mikell · Dec 29, 2017

Limey is on the right track but the numbers are tighter. Unless it's a vertically integrated operation self processing, you're looking at half of retail. Weedmaps and the like make it easy to get an idea of retail in your area.

As well, a 600-700 dollar ounce of solvent extract looks a heck of a lot better today than it did three years ago. Many processors are bypassing the storefront now.

There is a lot of interest in prohibition areas or where concentrate is scarce. For some the weed is so cheap it is equal to or less than the cost of other extracts.

EsterEssence · Dec 30, 2017

I only keep the best flowers as flower, the trim is ethanol extracted. All the less than perfect buds are tumbled for rosin and ethanol extraction. This method works the best for me to get all of use-able product from the plant...

TychoMonolyth · Dec 31, 2017

EsterEssence said:
I only keep the best flowers as flower, the trim is ethanol extracted. All the less than perfect buds are tumbled for rosin and ethanol extraction. This method works the best for me to get all of use-able product from the plant...

Smart.
How do you keep the chlorophyll out?

TychoMonolyth · Dec 31, 2017

Easy7 said:
...
They want a buzz to last so they go for budget weed (brick). If I had a choice I'd spend my $30 on some decent bubble than brick.
...

Hell, a good slow cooker oil will keep you high for hours!

EsterEssence · Dec 31, 2017

TychoMonolyth said:
Smart.
How do you keep the chlorophyll out?

I freeze the kief, and ethanol in my home freezer overnight, mix together, shake it well, let it soak overnight, shaking the container occasionally a few times that day, Strain with coffee filters the next day, and boil off the ethanol. The oil is a descent golden color. I use a gallon of ethanol per kilo of kief...

TychoMonolyth · Dec 31, 2017

Ah.... from kief. Not flower. Makes sense.

Kushron · Feb 13, 2018

Yup

Yup

Limeygreen said:
Depends on the prices you get and how much yield you get. If you get 20 percent yield on an elbow, you get about 90 grammes of rosin and at 50 bucks a gramme that gives you 4500 for those 90 grammes right? I have seen good rosin selling for 90-100 a gramme, so half the yield at low price is 2250 a lbs high price and higher yield is 9000 if you did the retail. If those are the prices, it sounds like a good return to me.

In my experience it all depends on if you have a market for it

TychoMonolyth · Feb 17, 2018

Kushron said:
In my experience it all depends on if you have a market for it

Lots of demand for it here. But they're all kids who want to lowball you.

Mikell · Feb 17, 2018

It's the same everywhere.

You have to find the fruitcakes waxing on about turps and how healthy they are now that they're off the tane.

~star~crash~ · Feb 17, 2018

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