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Old 02-11-2009, 06:09 AM #11
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im curious what product u are using as well. I seriously wouldnt want to try anything that could potentially hurt my plants. So if you tried it please share.

For a guess, u said u dilute 1:10, with the dilluting ratios from previous post, then the barley based enzyme thread, it gotta be natures pond clarifier. ??? yes no?

Im always looking for cost effective ways, and another reason not to goto the hydro store.

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I've been using Pond Protector. It contains the very same hydrolyzing enzymes (amylases, proteases, lipase, cellulase, beta-glucanase, and pectinase) that are contained in the enzyme products sold in the hydroponic stores.

As I said before, the only difference is the concentrations.
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:59 AM #13
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I don’t believe ANY of these companies make their own enzymes.
I'm pretty sure Sipco (Hygrozyme) makes their own enzymes. They are a medial company specializing in zymes. I could be wrong though..


I do know NIMBY from back in the OG days swore by stresszyme from walmart. He also ran clear bubblers with no issue at all.

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I've been using Pond Protector....As I said before, the only difference is the concentrations.
Are you using the 32 oz concentrate or the reg 16 oz (non concentrated)?
Are you following their application rates?
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Well based on price he stated(20$) im guessing he uses the 16 oz bottle, diluted to 1:10 strength and then apply it just like cannazym. This is all based on what Oldman has said
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The 16oz instructions say 1 capful for 100 gallons.
Dilute more?

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. . . I don't cater to bacteria in my root zone. Keep on man, we know you aren't spamming.
It is better to have bacteria that are living for all the steps necessary to carry out the breakdown of specific materials. Enzymes are just the catalysts the bacteria use to help absorb food through the cell membranes. The bacteria produce enzymes, much like we do in our own mouths, stomachs and intestines, in the digestive process. The enzymes are only half the equation. They are merely tools used by bacteria.
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The 16oz instructions say 1 cupful for 100 gallons.
Dilute more?
I've been using the regular Pond Protector (The concentrate is the same stuff though) diluted 1:10. With this dilution I still haven't finished off my first bottle after a year. I'm watching to see if it goes bad.

According to what I’ve read the shelf life for liquid bacterial products is approximately 2 years in an unopened container, 1 year after being opened if stored properly. Usually if it is pinkish or brownish in color, it should be alright. It is definitely bad if it is whitish-grey and has a burnt rubber smell.

Reading up I've found that dry enzyme products probably have an extended shelf life well beyond what is usually stated on the label. The dry formulations consist of multiple strains of spore forming microorganisms and these microorganisms can stay in the spore form (dormant state) for an indefinite period of time when properly stored.

The next time around I'll go dry and see how that works.
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I'm pretty sure Sipco (Hygrozyme) makes their own enzymes. They are a medial company specializing in zymes. I could be wrong though..


I do know NIMBY from back in the OG days swore by stresszyme from walmart. He also ran clear bubblers with no issue at all.

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Yeah, SIPCO does make their own enzymes:

"SIPCO'S "HYGROZYME A REVOLUTIONARY BREAKTHROUGH IN HORTICULTURAL CLEANING Sipco Industries Ltd. was incorporated in 1974 and began development/production of Enzymatic Biotechnologies over 15 years ago."

I'm skeptical of the other companies though. It'd be so much cheaper just to buy a concentrate, water it down, maybe add a surfactant like yucca (calling it a rare desert plant), bottle it up, and sell it on the market to gulible growers for $40 a liter.

And Stress Zyme does look promising.
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Did u get my PM about testing your enzymes, on another site a guy posted an article from canna, about a diy enzyme test. one with apple sauce and one with paper i think. Is any one with the product willing to try the test?
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