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Just bought ez cloner - is this ok for light
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AgentPothead
Just this guy, ya know?
I've only done seed, and even that I'm new at, but I think you are supposed to give the clones ambient levels of light until roots show up, then switch to your main lighting regimen.
I use a PAR meter (Apogee Quantum Flux MQ100) to set light levels.
Ambient light in my house is about 50-75 umol. Clones seem to like closer to 100 umol until rooting is indicated, pale light green in center of leaves or size increase, then it goes up to 250 umol, low bay white enamel reflector with 400 watt CMH (HID) placed at 40" away, or a 50 watt passive LED (60 degree beam angle) at 15". The newer LEDs with 'white' mixed in match nature more closely.
Minimum for actual vegging is 500 umol and bloom runs almost 1000.
More or less will still grow plants, these are the numbers I use.
Ambient light in my house is about 50-75 umol. Clones seem to like closer to 100 umol until rooting is indicated, pale light green in center of leaves or size increase, then it goes up to 250 umol, low bay white enamel reflector with 400 watt CMH (HID) placed at 40" away, or a 50 watt passive LED (60 degree beam angle) at 15". The newer LEDs with 'white' mixed in match nature more closely.
Minimum for actual vegging is 500 umol and bloom runs almost 1000.
More or less will still grow plants, these are the numbers I use.
AgentPothead
Just this guy, ya know?
Listen to that guy, he has the maths!
Scrappy-doo
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It's fine but I'd put it a little closer. Couple feet off to the side. Looks like almost no light where it's at. They need some just not a lot.
Complete Noob
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Thank you, when you say more than enough is it possibly too much? I feel like I have my previous kids too much I have a 2% success rate lifetime lol
Also how low temps is too low just curios?
And you say you have a 16 site cloner with a 9w cfl 15 inches above? That sounds doable if this isn't a good setup I have now
Complete Noob
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I feel like the problem was the size of my cuttings after reading the directions for the ez cloner and following them, these cuttings are all the longest I've ever done
Complete Noob
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I scooted them a little closer before I logged back on yesterday that's why I was asking those questions about it being too close I checked this morning and they look the exact same as they did three days ago so basically I am fucking excited as hell right now all 14 of them
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They are starting to yellow just a tad should I consider foliar?
MrBungle
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Feeding clones might slow down progress... You want the cutting to put all o f its energy into rooting..
if you feed the cutting it will put some of its energy towards growing instead of rooting, which might make it take longer...
Is it the apical meristem or (top shoot) thats getting yellow or the little fan leaves you left on the cut?
As soon as you see roots you can feed however you like... Clones are not sensitive like seedlings to feeding
Ar you seeing any callous form on the cut site where you would like to see roots?
if you feed the cutting it will put some of its energy towards growing instead of rooting, which might make it take longer...
Is it the apical meristem or (top shoot) thats getting yellow or the little fan leaves you left on the cut?
As soon as you see roots you can feed however you like... Clones are not sensitive like seedlings to feeding
Ar you seeing any callous form on the cut site where you would like to see roots?
Complete Noob
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8 of them have either rooted or have root bumps they are all from same plant 6 days lol
The one that is yellowing is in that batch. I have another with yellow in the middle like you asked but she was put in only because I had space. She had yellow in the middle I think because it was a lower preflower and wasn't really getting light. She getting worse but I still have faith in her
The one that is yellowing is in that batch. I have another with yellow in the middle like you asked but she was put in only because I had space. She had yellow in the middle I think because it was a lower preflower and wasn't really getting light. She getting worse but I still have faith in her
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Oh and I never said how much but my temps drop to 68 at night
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The cut I was talking about hasn't rooted yet, but the rest of them have. 13/14!
When are cuttings ready to be placed on table? I was hoping to wait until the end of this week but a few of them look ready now can I wait until Friday?
When are cuttings ready to be placed on table? I was hoping to wait until the end of this week but a few of them look ready now can I wait until Friday?
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I still haven't fed them at all
Scrappy-doo
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Yellowing is normal, it means your cuttings are in the process of rooting and need energy. There's no rush you can keep them in there as long as you like. I've seen roots a foot long in the ez-cloner. If the roots get too big you can cut them down to a manageable size until the rest are ready to go, just like getting a haircut.
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I feel like a complete fucking noob right now.
I had leftover cuts that weren't long enough for the cloner so I threw them in a jar and covered it with paper. About 8 of them died, two of them rooted yesterday. There are three left and honestly they may root too. They rooted in 12 days
I had leftover cuts that weren't long enough for the cloner so I threw them in a jar and covered it with paper. About 8 of them died, two of them rooted yesterday. There are three left and honestly they may root too. They rooted in 12 days
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